"Lost" TV Show - Currently Season 2 (US aired)

[adam.sproul]

A new clearer map off Lost Hatch.com

http://www.losthatch.com/multimedia/S2E17_...or_Enhanced.jpg

[Hurmoth]

A new clearer map off Lost Hatch.com

http://www.losthatch.com/multimedia/S2E17_...or_Enhanced.jpg

Nice, thanks for the link... much easier to read. Although, I do have to say that the best map I've seen so far is at http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMapOverlay.jpg because it translates some of the Latin phrases.

[GatorV]

I have to ask, what is a "DeGroot"? I mean we have several "groups":

-Losties

-Others

-Dharma People

what is a DeGroot?

[Hurmoth]

I have to ask, what is a "DeGroot"? I mean we have several "groups":

-Losties

-Others

-Dharma People

what is a DeGroot?

The DHARMA Initiative, founded in 1970 by University of Michigan doctoral candidates Gerald and Karen DeGroot and financed through the mysterious Hanso Foundation, apparently consisted of a group of "scientists and free thinkers" from around the world who were brought together at a "large-scale communal research compound" on the island to conduct research in various disciplines, including meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology, and electromagnetism. American psychologist and Walden Two author B.F. Skinner is cited as an influence on the DeGroots' work.

[Hurmoth]

• Just thinking that maybe the map was created by Kelvin and not Desmond like what some have suggested. I just don't think that Desmond was there long enough to explore the island like what the map suggested.
  
• Dates on the map suggest that The Swan was shut down in 1995, which tells me that the Others are not part of Dharma.
  

I would like to know more about Kelvin and also Danielle as well.

[Rappy Veteran]

• Just thinking that maybe the map was created by Kelvin and not Desmond like what some have suggested. I just don't think that Desmond was there long enough to explore the island like what the map suggested.
  
• Dates on the map suggest that The Swan was shut down in 1995, which tells me that the Others are not part of Dharma.
  

I would like to know more about Kelvin and also Danielle as well.

I have been listening to what desmond said at the beginning when they first met him down in the hatch...when he said "We kept on putting them in and then kelvin died"...im thinking kelvin didnt die maybe he just ran off into the forrest when going to pick up a supply or something or even taken by the others...so desmond assumed he died :unsure:

[Hurmoth]

I have been listening to what desmond said at the beginning when they first met him down in the hatch...when he said "We kept on putting them in and then kelvin died"...im thinking kelvin didnt die maybe he just ran off into the forrest when going to pick up a supply or something or even taken by the others...so desmond assumed he died :unsure:

That would be interesting. No one asked Desmond how he died, after all Kelvin was fairly young, or where the body went. So that is a very real possibility.

Also, maybe Henrey Gale (the fake one) caused the blacklight to come on. Since he is probably an "Other", he probably knows more about the hatch than what he is letting on. So maybe he did something that turned on the blacklight. The only problem with that, if he is truly an "Other", why didn't he just run instead of staying there? That's something I don't get.

[Rappy Veteran]

That would be interesting. No one asked Desmond how he died, after all Kelvin was fairly young, or where the body went. So that is a very real possibility.

also I would like to know where desmond ran off to...and why he was in a rush to leave...because im sure he knew more about dharma then just the swan hatch because he would of been in a lockdown and would of seen the map surely?

[Hurmoth]

also I would like to know where desmond ran off to...and why he was in a rush to leave...because im sure he knew more about dharma then just the swan hatch because he would of been in a lockdown and would of seen the map surely?

I edited the other post about what I thought might have caused the map to appear. I do agree, Desmond probably knew more than what he said. He ran off like he knew exactly where he was going, so I think he probably knew about another hatch, maybe even a Holiday Inn. :p

I think the information that Henrey tells Locke about in Dave is how to turn the blacklight back on. Now whether or not they figure out how to bring the blast doors back down, that's anyone's guess.

[Rappy Veteran]

I edited the other post about what I thought might have caused the map to appear. I do agree, Desmond probably knew more than what he said. He ran off like he knew exactly where he was going, so I think he probably knew about another hatch, maybe even a Holiday Inn. :p

he just wanted to go and find out who was left in american idol...he relised he couldnt vote via the net so he needed to quickly cast it...but seriously he ran off to "?" to warn the others that other people were now on the island and had taken over the hatch could explain why zeke said...open doors to places you shouldnt :rolleyes:

[Hurmoth]

Not sure if anyone's interested in this sort of stuff, but the new Nielsen Ratings were just released (which is actually very important, if the show can't stay up there, the show cannot make enough money based on TV ads, which in turn gets the show canceled): http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/nielsen.htm

Congrats to Lost for at least staying in the top 10 (they did better the week before with The Whole Truth than with Lockdown) :p If it wasn't for all those stupid reality TV shows, it would higher. Grrr American Idol and Survivor and Deal or No Deal :ermm:

[Samanthala]

:rofl: Yeah, she was hot until I found out that she smokes cigars :x oh and she's dating the guy who plays Charlie :x :x

:huh: What's wrong with Dominic Monaghan?? He's a hot little hobbit!...and the fact that his feet aren't actually that hairy in life is nice.

But yes, the smokage of cigars is plenty reason for :x

[Pc_Madness]

He's a hot little hobbit!

I have to sit there and stare at both of the hobbits before I can figure out which one is Dominic when watching LOTR.. he looks so different with a shaven face. :p

[Nick Sheldon]

Regarding Desmond and how I said he hasn't left the hatch....(i.e. he couldn't get the supplies).

Well..I'm wondering if Desmond is one of the others. He was a set up to get them all into the mode of inputting numbers, and he fabricated the story of the sickness still being active just to reinforce the story, of why he hasn't left the hatch. Jack and everyone obviously know there is no sickness, but of course, they don't know what happens with the numbers. I'm sure we'll see Desmond later with the others. Thing is, where the hell is he going to run to anyway...on an island??

[Pc_Madness]

Thing is, where the hell is he going to run to anyway...on an island??

Yeah, he was very eager to run out into a jungle hes 'feared' for so many years...if there world was really going to end.. why bother running :\

[kjordan2001]

Regarding Desmond and how I said he hasn't left the hatch....(i.e. he couldn't get the supplies).

Well..I'm wondering if Desmond is one of the others. He was a set up to get them all into the mode of inputting numbers, and he fabricated the story of the sickness still being active just to reinforce the story, of why he hasn't left the hatch. Jack and everyone obviously know there is no sickness, but of course, they don't know what happens with the numbers. I'm sure we'll see Desmond later with the others. Thing is, where the hell is he going to run to anyway...on an island??

Errr...fabricated the story of the sickness? Why was he taking the vaccine that Claire was taking then prior to our Losties arrival? Why did he take the vaccine with him? And according to the map, there is a sickness and the cure is supposedly worse than the sickness.

It also seems he fears what would happen as much as Locke. How could he know that the Losties could fix the computer?

But indeed, where would he run to? According to his story, he should have no way off the island.

[Nick Sheldon]

Errr...fabricated the story of the sickness? Why was he taking the vaccine that Claire was taking then prior to our Losties arrival? Why did he take the vaccine with him? And according to the map, there is a sickness and the cure is supposedly worse than the sickness.

It also seems he fears what would happen as much as Locke. How could he know that the Losties could fix the computer?

But indeed, where would he run to? According to his story, he should have no way off the island.

He said/did all those things to further substantiate his story.

It is all to make the losties 'believe' what he is saying is true.

I really do believe that Desmond is part of the plan/others.

Edited April 5, 2006 by Yakkob

[costanza007]

So far we haven't seen any flashbacks with "others" in them. I mean, desmond was in a jack flashback, so we assume that he really is a guy training to go around the world and then wrecks his boat on the island.

As for him just running out of there, he's been seriously warped. He's been "saving the world" for years and hasn't slept more than 108 minutes at a time. I think he does know a few other things about the island though... and i'm positive we'll see him again ;-).

[Hurmoth]

Does anyone know where I can get a sound file for the countdown timer. The noise the timer makes once it hits 4 minutes and also the one when it gets down to 1 minute if anyone has it or knows where I can get it. I would greatly appreciate any help :D Thanks!

[Aaron Veteran]

Does anyone know where I can get a sound file for the countdown timer. The noise the timer makes once it hits 4 minutes and also the one when it gets down to 1 minute if anyone has it or knows where I can get it. I would greatly appreciate any help :D Thanks!

I have a feeling someone wants to change the shutdown sound on their computer. :D

[mikebeech]

Did anyone else notice that in the episode where Claire goes with the French Chick and Kate to the medical facility. When Kate is looking through the lockers she finds loads of raggy clothes and a box containing theatrical glue and a fake beard :s. It's all so interesting but really confusing, why would they pretend to abandon the base and put fake beards on and raggy clothes? lol (sorry if this is stated earlier on in the thread, didn't feel like searchin through 227 pages of posts :|)

[Hurmoth]

I have a feeling someone wants to change the shutdown sound on their computer. :D

:laugh: Yup!

[Computer Guru]

Forgive me if this has been asked: but how long does this thread have to get to be pinned?

Did you guys watch today's episode? <snipped> Was it as good as the last?

[Hurmoth]

Forgive me if this has been asked: but how long does this thread have to get to be pinned?

Did you guys watch today's episode? <snipped> Was it as good as the last?

Today's episode hasn't come on yet. It is only 1:36 PM on the East Coast. :p

[nvme]

was the map on one of the blast doors that came down? if so, has anyone else thought about how the person who drew that map, that appears to have taken quite a while to do, was opening and closing the blast doors so much to do it? it sounds like this and the food drop are planned or triggered as someone else mentioned a few pages back.