Trainer: Bonds Used Steroids in '03

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I didn't say compared to last year...I said compared to his record* year, which is the basis of this discussion. You said how can he hit 60 home runs when he gets walked 2/3 the time, when in reality, his ab/home run ratio shows it takes over 8 AB to get a HR. With 55 more walks than his record* year, that should give him almost 7 more home runs, pushing him to 51-52 home runs.....a mere 21-22 home runs off his record* year.

[dougkinzinger]

I compare his playing to ScottyMac this past Sunday with Roobieo and Marlocket. What do you think about that Boog?

--DK

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I compare his playing to ScottyMac this past Sunday with Roobieo and Marlocket.  What do you think about that Boog?

--DK

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You're drunk again.

[dougkinzinger]

LOL! You were there, weren't you? There was much jubilation indeed. Thine elderly persons shuddered thine ears at the sound.

Rooobie. And Marlocket.

[invisibro]

Documents: BALCO VP said Bonds used THG

BALCO founder Victor Conte told federal investigators on the day his lab was raided in September 2003 that Barry Bonds was a regular visitor and that he gave the Giants slugger steroids, according to a memorandum summarizing the interview conducted by the Internal Revenue Service agent who headed the investigation.

The memo was submitted by the U.S. Attorney's office in San Francisco late Friday along with other documents. The government was attempting to defend charges by attorneys for four defendants charged in the case alleging that their clients were subjected to illegal searches and coerced by federal investigators.

Special agent Jeff Novitzky's memo states that Conte told him Bonds was one of the players trainer Greg Anderson brought to Conte to obtain two forms of steroids -- the previously undetectable THG and a testosterone-based ointment.

In a separate interview, BALCO vice president James Valente also told investigators that Bonds used the two substances, but that Bonds did not like how the THG made him feel.

Bonds, who has not been indicted, has said through his attorney that he has not used steroids.

The typewritten memos summarizing the interviews cited other athletes who received steroids, including many already mentioned, such as baseball's Gary Sheffield, Benito Santiago and Jason Giambi, NFL players Bill Romanowski, Dana Stubblefield, Barrett Robbins and Johnnie Morton, and track stars Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery.

Conte, Anderson, Valente and track coach Remi Korchemny, are charged with distributing steroids, including the previously undetectable THG, to top athletes. Charges also include possession of human growth hormone, misbranding drugs with intent to defraud and money laundering. They have plead not guilty, and all four were unavailable for comment Friday night.

Anderson's attorney, Anna Ling, is seeking to suppress evidence and statements investigators said her client made. Ling cited alleged misconduct by Novitzky in filing search warrant affidavits, questioning of defendants and other matters related to the case.

Federal prosecutors countered Friday with their response, calling the arguments "meritless," adding "Anderson's statements are outright falsehoods."

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SOURCE

[beardly]

Not surprised at all. I knew for a fact that Giambi was using roids. I had a class with the baseball coach at my university who worked as a coach in the major leagues tell us that he knew Giambi roided.

[Chad]

Not surprised at all. I knew for a fact that Giambi was using roids. I had a class with the baseball coach at my university who worked as a coach in the major leagues tell us that he knew Giambi roided.

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And my uncle told me that his brother's friend's first kindegarten teacher told him that this teacher knew first hand Giambi didn't use roides :rolleyes:

[Ayepecks]

And according to you, what did I just say?

Whoops, sorry, I forgot about this topic.

You said I knew nothing about it. I do. Have you ever met him? If not, then you should keep your thoughts to yourself, as you don't know what you're talking about :)

[L3thal Veteran]

Whoops, sorry, I forgot about this topic.

You said I knew nothing about it. I do. Have you ever met him? If not, then you should keep your thoughts to yourself, as you don't know what you're talking about :)

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Yes, I have met him in person outside Shea stadium when I went to see them play the Mets this year. Does that answer your question?

Looks like we missed the most important part of that article

In a statement to ESPN.com late Friday, Conte denied telling investigators that he gave Bonds steroids.

"I have never given Barry Bonds anabolic steroids at any time. I have never even had a discussion with Bonds about anabolic steroids. Anyone who says anything different is not telling the truth. The memorandum of interview that was released to the media today is filled with information that was completely fabricated by law enforcement officers," Conte told ESPN.com.

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Of course he'd say that. If he admits it, then the prosecutions case is closed. It's called self incrimination.

[Ayepecks]

Yes, I have met him in person outside Shea stadium when I went to see them play the Mets this year.  Does that answer your question?

Looks like we missed the most important part of that article

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Yes and no... just means you still didn't know what you were talking about when I made my statement about my opinion of him -- doesn't change the situation at all, so as I said -- take your own advice and know what you're talking about.

And, just like BOOG said -- self-incrimination. Do you really think he's going to give a possible plea-bargain away? I don't think he's that stupid, do you?

[L3thal Veteran]

And, just like BOOG said -- self-incrimination. Do you really think he's going to give a possible plea-bargain away? I don't think he's that stupid, do you?

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He could or could not be. No one knows whether he's lieing or whether Bonds is guilty or not. Let the case unfold and we shall see the results :)