Which is the Strongest Martial arts

[blademaster]

dont think its a martial art but i believe wrestling is the stongest of any fighting style.  Almost any fight will end up on the ground at some point.  If you can leard how to block and ground those people with the ******y little kicks, thenn you'll pound the pee pee out of them.  Show me a martial art form that teaches both extensive ground tactics AND practical fighting.

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Karate

[-=NeoDoug1=-]

I'm not an expert by any means, so feel free to corrct me if I'm wrong...

The outcome of a fight would depend on if you're fighting someone with the same skills, as most martial arts seem to be of the "do THIS, then THIS" type - if your opponent is in a certain stance, you can tell exactly how he is going to attack. That's what's so good about Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do, as it has no set attack/counter-attack moves. How this would pan out in a street fight, I couldn't say, but it would still be pretty powerful.

Aikido was (if I remember correctly) developed by the Japanese people to protect themselves against the Samurai, and as such, is designed to first disarm the opponent, which would definately be helpfull in todays world!

Personally, I've always wanted to learn Iado, but as this is sword combat, it probably wouldn't have much bearing on modern fights!

Incidently, if anyone is interested in reading about The Way of the Samurai, I'd highly recommend "The Book of Five Rings" by Miyamoto Musashi. It can be quite hard going, but it is a great insight into the mind of the Samurai, as it was written by one! (It was written in 1645...)

[Wizdon]

I can't believe that Tae Kwon Do is on top of the poll.

Even traditional tae kwon do (though, it is much better than the sport) is slow, and the have very ineffective close quarters (poor upperbody technique, speed and power) and ground (wrestling-type) combat. In all honesty, tae kwon do would place very lowly on my rank of martial arts (I would never do this, by the way).

Kung Fu, imo, is the most effective of the "traditional" styles, and by that I mean the major, popular styles. One of the most effective styles of Kung Fu that I've come across is praying mantis. It has some stances which looks utterly ridiculous but it is very powerful and fluent.

Oh, and martial arts techniques won't help you in a fight unless you have practised that technique at real time speed until it is a reflex move. That's why they do blocking drills.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Traditional TKD is. Most of the institutions I've visited in the past seemed to emphasise the Sport-aspect of the art, though. In Sydney, I studied under Yang (based in Hurlstone Park,) for 8 years. I then figured out that m.a.'s were much more than just fancy patterns + powerful assaults. There's a spiritual side to each martial art you've listed above.

Martial arts are powerless against guns. It doesn't matter how many stripes you've attained on your black belt, a bullet will still hit + kill you.

The most powerful Martial Art isn't one that allows you to knock over anybody. It's one that empowers you with a sense of justice that exhibits itself in every aspect of your life. Practice diligently at any Martial Art, and you'll inherit the power from generations of wisdom.

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I used to work for a guy who was a fourth level black belt in TWD. Trained in Korea (He had disdain for anyone trained in North America). 6'2" (rather tall for a Korean). He put red highlights in his hair because it made him look more violent. He also wore slippers inside the building for obvious reasons. When entering a restaurant or bar he would always choose the most strategic location. Basically he was a little nuts. He really thought he could dodge a bullet. Hell, be probably thought he could catch it out of the air.

Some idiotic 50 year old once took a swing at him at the doorway of the store (the store owner owed him money). Big mistake. I wasn't working that day but it ended up with a flying jump kick to the head just outside the store in front of the window of the restaurant next door where everybody was eating lunch. Oh yeah, it was raining too, so the guy was left face down on the sidewalk with the rain pouring down.

Yes, that was how I spent my teenage years at the local computer store. It was interesting. Actually the owner was even weirder (my dad called him shifty-eyed Dave) but that's another story. The two of them used to yell at each other all the time. "I'll bring in a gun!" "You'll be unconscious before you can pull the trigger.." etc...

When we were supposed to be working, he'd grab a broom and hand it to me. "What, you want me to sweep up?". No, let Dave do that. I want you to come at me. "Ah, no, I don't think so...."

[vincent]

I used to work for a guy who was a fourth level black belt in TWD.  Trained in Korea (He had disdain for anyone trained in North America). 6'2" (rather tall for a Korean).  He put red highlights in his hair because it made him look more violent.  He also wore slippers inside the building for obvious reasons.  When entering a restaurant or bar he would always choose the most strategic location. Basically he was a little nuts.  He really  thought he could dodge a bullet.  Hell, be probably thought he could catch it out of the air.

Some idiotic 50 year old once took a swing at him at the doorway of the store (the store owner owed him money).  Big mistake.  I wasn't working that day but it ended up with a flying jump kick to the head just outside the store in front of the window of the restaurant next door where everybody was eating lunch.  Oh yeah, it was raining too, so the guy was left face down on the sidewalk with the rain pouring down.

Yes, that was how I spent my teenage years at the local computer store.  It was interesting.  Actually the owner was even weirder (my dad called him shifty-eyed Dave) but that's another story.  The two of them used to yell at each other all the time.  "I'll bring in a gun!"  "You'll be unconscious before you can pull the trigger.." etc...

When we were supposed to be working, he'd grab a broom and hand it to me.  "What, you want me to sweep up?".  No, let Dave do that.  I want you to come at me.  "Ah, no, I don't think so...."

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That just put a big smile on my face, hilarious i tell ya

[EzeWong]

Personally, I've always wanted to learn Iado, but as this is sword combat, it probably wouldn't have much bearing on modern fights!

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Holy Crap, I'm the Jesus Christ of Ressurecting dead threads,

Anyways I gotta answer this

I think you mean Iaido Correct? Bujutsu art of quick draw?

Yeah, It's definitly the most stylish martial arts that comes to mind, suprasses cariopa (whatever the hell that brazilian kick martial art is). I remember reading about the art of quick draw and how the famous Musashi Samurai was said to have never been defeated and used Iaido so effectively that he was unsurpassed. He wrote a book on it... I need to get my hands on it O_o

and like all japanese martial arts focus on haragei (Using the "Stomach" or tanden if you will as the focal point of power). RIght now I'm studying Zen in my spare time to increase awareness and reaction speed. It's pretty good... I tested my reflexes before and after zen meditation and I can defintely say there is some improvement to my reflex time.

[SMeK Veteran]

ORAGAMI!!!!

[memNOC]

probably Jeet Kune Do.

initiated by Bruce Lee and perfected by Tommy Carruthers.

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[memNOC]

RIght now I'm studying Zen in my spare time to increase awareness and reaction speed. It's pretty good... I tested my reflexes before and after zen meditation and I can defintely say there is some improvement to my reflex time.

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:o

[EzeWong]

Unagi?

That's eel (IMO my favorite japanese dish)

lol

[-=NeoDoug1=-]

Holy Crap, I'm the Jesus Christ of Ressurecting dead threads,

Anyways I gotta answer this

I think you mean Iaido Correct? Bujutsu art of quick draw?

Yeah, It's definitly the most stylish martial arts that comes to mind, suprasses cariopa (whatever the hell that brazilian kick martial art is). I remember reading about the art of quick draw and how the famous Musashi Samurai was said to have never been defeated and used Iaido so effectively that he was unsurpassed. He wrote a book on it... I need to get my hands on it O_o

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Sorry about the spelling - I had a hangover when I wrote that... which is a coincidence, as I've got one now too! And I did say I'm not an expert...

As for the book, I think it's available from most big bookshops in the UK. The version I have is a pocket book, about 2 inches square. I can't give you any details about publisher, price, or anything like that, as I've lent it to a friend to read while they're on holiday!

BTW, as for the "ressurecting dead threads" thing, I wouldn't class it as "dead" just as it hadn't had a new post for 4 days. Some threads go for a lot longer between posts!