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  1. 1. FireFox or Opera ?

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dont listen to these idiots

opera loads faster, opens sites faster, uses less ram, uses less cpu, has mouse gestures, etc etc etc

its way better than firefox

these trolls love firefox cause its free and open source

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God don't you hate trolls. :rolleyes:

Anyways, I prefer firefox. They are probably equal in most things, yup they sure do open up webpages. But Firefox is free. That's the biggest difference to me.

Perhaps he's talking about the features? I know that's what puts me off it. Too much stuff I don't want and not enough of what I do.

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I do have to agree with this. The first thing I always do when I install Opera is customise the hell outta the interface to better match my personal preferences...which normally means removing about 20 buttons/toolbars/etc

Opera

Just because it works the way I want it.

Firefox loads pages quick, but somehow it doesn't feel comfortable to me, some things aren't that responsive for me, and some extensions cause some problems for me. And I like the resizeable tabs in opera, and F12 popup blocker on the fly, javascript/image disabling.

I'll give Firefox a try sometimes again on my pc, I messed it up playing with extensions and themes last time on mac. But Opera for me until then. But I've been using Opera for a while on pc.

On osx I'm still on Safari, I'd like to use firefox when I get my extensions to work right on it, safari feels slow for me in some areas.

Opera, 100%. I just wish Opera had a plugin as well designed as AdBlock. I've looked into a few ways of doing something similar, but they all involve setting up something to block anything from the ad's servers. I just want to right click and go "Destroy Ad", and have the little tab for Flash ads.

I agree with BBTak though - I've tried it so many times (firefox) but it just doesn't seem as respsonsive. I don't particularily like the way it handels tabs, and even with themes, I can't find a way to make it the way I want. I guess I'm picky. But Opera does what I want it to do, and I'll use it.

If Opera didn't exist? I'd be all over Firefox though. It's a great piece of kit.

Edit - Ouch. As I hit the "post" button, it crashed. Man, what a kick in the nuts. Thanks for nothing Opera! :angry:

Firefox.

Reasons :

- Its free (no ads)

- It starts up faster than Opera

- It uses less memory

A clean install of Firefox lacks alot of features Opera has though, but these can be added by downloading and installing the Firefox extensions.

Here are my list of extensions which would make Firefox work as well as if not better than Opera :

All-In-One Gestures - Adds mouse gestures

Tabbrowser Extension - Tabs

FlashGot - Manage downloads using Flashget

Compact Menu - Duplicates menubar on the toolbar as a menu

CuteMenus - neat icons

Gmail notifier - :yes:

I still can't find a way to have all the tabs automatically reopen if say Firefox crashes though... Opera handles this very well. Anyone knows how?

I prefer Firefox. I keep trying Opera every few versions and I still dislike it a lot. The default GUI is horrible so you have to get rid of all the crap you don't want. At least the newest skin is a lot better than the older one. People also have to remember Opera is at version 7.54 and has been developed a lot longer than Firefox, which is only at version 1. I like the idea of having a minimal browser and adding extensions to fit my needs. Opera has lots of things I don't want or need by default. The bit about Opera being the fastest browser in the world is kind of a mute point with a modern computer and a broadband internet connection. The rendering time difference between IE, Firefox, and Opera is only a fraction of a second. As far as the RAM issue, again it's not a big deal if you have a modern computer. Who maxes out their RAM with a browser? I know I don't. I'm sure Firefox's install file size and RAM usage will decrease as development continues.

Tried both on a number of occasions, always reverted back to ie until opera 7.5 came out, been with opera ever since then and imo its better than firefox, i tried firefox 1.0 but still is behind opera, and when opera 7.6 is released it will just enfore that even more, im using the 7.6 beta and 7.6 is a major improvement over 7.5, so yea opera all the way, and although firefox is still good it just doesnt feel finished and trustworthy yet

I am using Firefox. All the browsers are good, and all the browsers have their disadvantages. IE loads faster than firefox, and I'm still using it, but I'm using firefox because i think it's more secure than IE, (not excluding themes and more). I've used opera, but since it's not free, I don't like that banner. I have talked with some of my friends and told me better to choose 2 from the 3 browsers (since my PC is a bit slow), so now I'm left with Firefox (default browser) and IE. Why I'm still using IE not just firefox? Not every website is compatible with firefox, since IE is still the main free microsoft windows browser (the most popular). That's all from me :)

Any comments, feel free ;)

I started out using FireFox, then switched to Opera and I can't switch back.

I don't find the UI cluttered, the program still loads fast and I turn those extras off which took a good minute.

Has everything I want in it. I thought they did a great job with it. Which is why I paid for it as well.

Depends on your machine. I've heard everything. For some people they load faster, for some they don't.

More than likely (to my experience):

-IE will load itself faster and take up less resources, given that it's pretty frill-less and is loaded upon Windows startup. On the other hand, older versions are ugly and don't block popups (not even sure if the new ones do).

-Firefox has by far the most customizability, you just have to search a bit. On the other hand, it does tend to use a good deal of RAM and processor. Oddly, it still runs faster than my IE.

-Opera is feature-laden (although much of the stuff could be dled via FF extensions) and seems a bit cluttered. It is *slightly* faster than Firefox.

Really, you have to try them all out to see which works best. I choose Firefox.

-Opera is feature-laden (although much of the stuff could be dled via FF extensions) and seems a bit cluttered. It is *slightly* faster than Firefox.

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The cluttered look is been worked out in the 7.6 beta's. I'm the sure that the 7.6 final will have a much more streamlined look straight from installation ;)

I am sorry if I am repeating something as this thread is into 15th pg and I can't go through all those pages.I have only seen the first page.

My choice is OPERA

1.It loads pages faster.

2.It has a lot lot lot more features than any other browsers.

a)Allows you to resume sessions and start from where u left last time.I luv this feature.

b)Excellent e-mail client(called Revolutionary M2)

c)Allows you to zoom in and out of the pages.Zooming in is something dat I just love in those porn sites.And da zoom out feature may come handy to tackle annoying horizontal scrolling in some pages.

d)Has a form filler.Though basic.

e)Magic Wand-The wonderfull password manager.Very very handy tool.

f)The search engine tab.It is better than that of FF's.Using a small freeware tool u can even add your own search engines.

g)Has IRC client.Chat feature.Allows you to recieve RSS feeds.

h)VOICE BROWSING

i)Nice intereface and a lot of skins available.

j)Can hide the browsers original identity and pretend as a Mozilla or an IE.

k)Mouse gestures.Yes there r extensions available to enable dat feature in ff but it is there by default and da opera one is beter.

l)Small download size.

+All the common features FF has like pop-up blocker,download manager etc.

I hope I have been able to clear your doubt about which browser is better. :)

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