FireFox or Opera ?

[Kilroy-was-here]

I think everyone would agree that horizontal scrolling is the most irritating thing while surfing.

Opera helps you to get rid of that.It has an option to autometically fit pages to window width.

Another feature I would never use. I hardly ever come across pages where I have to do horizontal scrolling.

[drgrudge]

Another feature I would never use. I hardly ever come across pages where I have to do horizontal scrolling.

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Yes, only in some porn sites we find use for horizontal scrolling. I dont visit porn sites .

@pallab,

You talk abt the small download size, remember the help files are not included and it has online help one, unlike firefox.

Also the for the voice commands we will have to download a additional 2.5mb.

I agree opera now has support for gmail, but i tried opening gmail.com in both Firefox and opera( V. 8) , FF opened much faster. opera took time to open.

[Chode]

^ Hmm, someone's never heard of monitors that aren't set to 1600x1200 :sleep:

Are you actually criticising Opera for not having an offline help system? A web browser, intentionally designed to be used for THE INTERNET, not having an OFFLINE help file? Oh noes, call the fire brigade!!!!1111oneoneoneelevenusefirefox

You have the choice of the 2.5mb, whether you download it or not. Once you ahve downloaded it, it should remain between versions of Opera.

Time to open gmail.com. Hmm, so many variables here (not limited to user stupidity) that I am forced to question the validity of your comparison.

[Shannon]

I use Firefox myself, but I'm seriously thinking of switching to Opera. Firefox was using 113mb of memory the other day! Needless to say, it stopped responding. I tried to kill it via Task Manager and that ended up locking up too. :wacko:

Does anyone have any ideas on how to do decrease memory usage? I only run one extension (Adblock).

[celestialspring]

Troll Here:

Switch to Opera ASAP!

[ZZOOzzoo]

I use Firefox myself, but I'm seriously thinking of switching to Opera. Firefox was using 113mb of memory the other day! Needless to say, it stopped responding. I tried to kill it via Task Manager and that ended up locking up too. :wacko:

Does anyone have any ideas on how to do decrease memory usage? I only run one extension (Adblock).

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Although Firefox uses unnecessarily large amount of memory, that is ridiculous.

If I were you, I'd reinstall Firefox and see if the problem still exists.

[x-byte]

The memory usage depends on tabs opened etc. Opera also have memory issues. But if you select other than automatic settings on memory in Opera it gets better. My Opera currently use 148mb of ram...

[StuRReaL]

Another feature I would never use. I hardly ever come across pages where I have to do horizontal scrolling.

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Indeed nor have I, buy a better screen so you can crank up the screen res :p

[fanboynz]

Refering back to the thread topic, I believe theres room for both browsers, they have similar goals, but different philosophies. I have great respect for Opera users, Yes I'm a Firefox user. Opera has some nice features, as does Firefox with its powerful extensions.

But I have little or no respect for users of IE and the IE rendering engine, its buggy, slow, security problems seem to happen on a daily basis. Lets face it, Microsoft can't follow W3C standards if it tried, hell its been atleast 2-3 major revisions and I'm still waiting for proper support for transparient png or even proper CSS2 support.

I don't care how cool the interface is, or how fast it is, or how many features Maxthon, Avant etc has, its severely limited by the aging IE engine, and this will only be worse when we see more advanced CSS2 and CSS3 based websites slowly develop over this year and without IE support, or with IE Support but with cutdown interface. Both Opera and Firefox are already implementing CSS3 into there browsers, wheres Microsoft in the picture? "Just Wait till IE 7", thats like waiting for Duke Nukem Forever. Are you IE fanboys really going to wait that long before you see any decent features? And even so, I bet with any CSS3 support in Microsoft's new browser will be either partially supported or unsupported, we've seen it before, it will happen again. *sigh*

Just to sum up, if you choose Opera, great, good stuff. If you choose Firefox or Mozilla Suite, great, good stuff. These browsers are going somewhere.

just my 2c.

[StuRReaL]

But I have little or no respect for users of IE and the IE rendering engine, its buggy, slow, security problems seem to happen on a daily basis. Lets face it, Microsoft can't follow W3C standards if it tried, hell its been atleast 2-3 major revisions and I'm still waiting for proper support for transparient png or even proper CSS2 support.

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But what is worse is ASP.NET a .NET extension which has controls which write HTML, more and more people use it and yet it does not support the w3c standard either. Microsoft need to wake up and do things the correct way no matter how damaging of demeaning they find it. Standards are not there so you can do it your way.

But more on topic the best way to decide on whether Opera or Firefox is best for you is to try it yourself, or if u cannot decide then use both, open one page with firefox and another with opera loading alternate pages in each so to use each one fairly :p

[Pallab]

Well consider this FF doesn't even have voice commands!

[Jase]

Firefox.

[Elliott]

Well consider this FF doesn't even have voice commands!

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I still think voice command systems are more trouble than their worth. They don't work like they should, and ambient noise totally kills the idea.

[drgrudge]

Well consider this FF doesn't even have voice commands!

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First we will have to download 2.5mb, then it will be more heavy download than FF (u always talk abt small file size).

Then we will have to train opera with our voice.

So voice command feature isnt that hot and i have no use for it.

Do u really use all these voice commands?

[Rix]

Then we will have to train opera with our voice.

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You dont need to train it.

[vcv]

You dont need to train it.

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Come on now, you don't expect him to actually read this, now do you? It's been said what.. 3 times now.. and he still thinks you need to train it? Obviously, he's content with remaining misinformed about Opera.

Others seem content with being convinced that Opera is someone majorly affected by these features "I'll never use". As if having a few extra features will some how magically make their browsing experience worse.

But hey.. that's fine. It could be worse. They could be still using Internet Explorer.

[PF Prophet]

gawd will these debates EVER end.

i prefer opera because for me it loads pages faster AND has less bs in it, no need to download umteen extintions to get it working the way opera dose out of the box.

and so u know mozilla-firefox may be at an early number but look at where it came from b4 u say its better because its got a lower number i use BOUTH.

opera is by far more gui costomizable ppl here who use ff only would crap there pants if they saw what i do with my opera layout.

opera's voice works fine no training needed and no noise dosnt kill it. i rarely use it now because well im use to NOT using it and also i havent got my mic setup on my system anymore(loaned to my mother for her laptop)

opera is good as long as the page is made using proper code or hell even bad code works it may render some things wrong but when there are 440+ errors or ur avrage page u gotta think somebodys using frontpage or dreamweaver and not checking there code. FF renders some pages HORRIBALY most it renders fine But also reammber that some pages send opera a broken code version of the page because they can see that its opera and they want to mess with it ( try www.msnbc.com for an example )

oh and gmail works fine with opera8 havent had any problems yet.

the gmail notifyer is for ALL browsers though its still not 100% compatable with opera(googles and opera are working on the mail:to issues)

all in all i prefer opera for my day to day stuff and if i find a page it cant open properly i load up ff or ie*shudders*

Oh dont even get me started on "opensorce" i hate to tell yall but i have seen more BULLSH!T POS apps come out of opensorce then i can count ff and mozilla have been stealing ideas from opera since like version 3 (yes i had opera ver3) and they still do it and thats koo to a point since it dose make their browser more usefull.

oh and 25$ isnt bad for a browser that can do all that opera can do OUT OF THE BOX and that has a responcive staff OH and 25$=whole household all ur systems AND os's now :D

[Pallab]

grudge just refuses to undertsand simple things.

Ok.U may noy like voice browsing.

SO Opera isn't forcing it on u.If u want it d'load it seperately.

I don't want to hearwhat features in opera u dun use,but tell me how is Opera worse than FF.

[42n81]

Sumdy asked earlier on for an example, well I just then stumbled on one so i thought I'd bring it here for you.

I got no idea why this is, but if you open this page in IE, FF, and Opera then see what happens. FF somehow screws it up, at least it does on my computer. I like its prettiness and it's got some great extensions, but it needs a fair bit more cooking to come up to standard IMHO.

[Elliott]

Sumdy asked earlier on for an example, well I just then stumbled on one so i thought I'd bring it here for you.

I got no idea why this is, but if you open this page in IE, FF, and Opera then see what happens. FF somehow screws it up, at least it does on my computer. I like its prettiness and it's got some great extensions, but it needs a fair bit more cooking to come up to standard IMHO.

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The site was done in Frontpage. That should explain any problems you're having. :p

[Mokano]

The site was done in Frontpage. That should explain any problems you're having. :p

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Yeah, M$ Frontpage messes things up a bit for firefox :pinch:

So when ever I was designing my site in Frontpage I had to do

some css shizz to make it look decent in Firefox

Here's my site :/

I tend to like Firefox better (Y)

[red.]

Another feature I would never use. I hardly ever come across pages where I have to do horizontal scrolling.

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oh i guess just because you don't use it, it must not be useful! if that's the case then the firefox fanboys shouldn't use the whole open source thing as a reason. after all a lot of people don't use the code so it's obviously useless.

and grudge you complain about voice but no one is telling you to download it, it's optional! you should be able to understand that seeing as you have to download the stuff you want in firefox! Also don't complain about how downloading the voice feature will increase the size of opera compared to firefox. i mean what if you were to download extensions for firefox for features that are already included with opera, what would firefox's size be then?

[ZZOOzzoo]

i mean what if you were to download extensions for firefox for features that are already included with opera, what would firefox's size be then?

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Good point. (Y)

[kyro]

firefox ...

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[celestialspring]

firefox ...

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Question: Ya, Firefox or Opera?

Answer: Opera. Period.

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