[DEFINITIVE] Half-Life 2 Thread

[aldo]

I'd like to add that VU brought this on themselves.  The whole reason Valve created Steam was because they were sick of publishers taking all the money for making a $0.25 copy.  Publishers are greedy ######, plain and simple.

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Well if this is the case, why do they charge the same as retail? Oh, right, same reason as the publishers: greed.

Tangiable costs make up 50% of a game purchase cost. That is the shop (gets a big cut), delivery (from the factory in china or whereever to the shops) and printing the CD and manual itself.

Frankly Valve should charge $35 for HL2 Bronze - why not $25, I hear you say. Well there is credit card costs, plus bandwidth costs. Add a little extra for the development of steam and that seems right.

[Nexus-]

Well if this is the case, why do they charge the same as retail? Oh, right, same reason as the publishers: greed.

Tangiable costs make up 50% of a game purchase cost. That is the shop (gets a big cut), delivery (from the factory in china or whereever to the shops) and printing the CD and manual itself.

Frankly Valve should charge $35 for HL2 Bronze - why not $25, I hear you say. Well there is credit card costs, plus bandwidth costs. Add a little extra for the development of steam and that seems right.

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woah were is it 25 bronze? not on my steam!

[Ciderx]

Update: George Broussard of 3D Realms had this to say on Shacknews:

Hey Vivendi...seriously, **** you.

Broussard is my new hero. I mean sure we are all ****ed he hasn't released DNF, but if that man can whip out and rag on VU because HE wants to play HL2, he's my hero.

Well, of course he's upset. He needs to play the engine which he will announce he will be shifting his "game" to!

But seriously, all you ever hear from Broussard is about what game he's been playing at the moment. And you wonder why he'll never finish that damned DNF.

[Xtreme $niper]

no hes saying it SHOULD be 25.

[Nexus-]

looks like he said "should charge 35 not 25" in his post indicating the latter would be the current offering (According to him)

[Ryan Versaw]

Well if this is the case, why do they charge the same as retail? Oh, right, same reason as the publishers: greed.

Tangiable costs make up 50% of a game purchase cost. That is the shop (gets a big cut), delivery (from the factory in china or whereever to the shops) and printing the CD and manual itself.

Frankly Valve should charge $35 for HL2 Bronze - why not $25, I hear you say. Well there is credit card costs, plus bandwidth costs. Add a little extra for the development of steam and that seems right.

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i am under the understanding that they cannot have the price any lower. i could have sworn that in the past i have seen that valve cannot undercut vivendi's prices, as it is against their contract.

[Cygnuz-Y]

So, reading between the lines, I think it *might* be quite a good game.....

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Are you kidding me, its going to be the best game ever. **<---Period**

[stanley porkchop]

Seriously, metacritic can be a load of bull. And besides, big releases are ALWAYS overrated.

[Xtreme $niper]

Yeah its true. If VU sells it at 80 in retail, Steam has to be no less than 80.

[Terrigamer]

It was stated somewhere (can't recall where right now but it was by a Valve official I'm 99% sure) that the activation system will only be required for the first 2 weeks after release.

[Redestium]

Ah the madness, my new card better get here soon.

[Lexcyn]

Ah the madness, my new card better get here soon.

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:p Almost 24 hours left! lol

[r4esh]

Hey In the Nov Desktops thread I saw someone with a HL2 coutdown clock on it. Anyone of you HL2 gurus know where i can find this?

[SkaterAustin]

lol, I went to best buy today and they had 20 copies of the collectors edition this morning and actually sold em. they sold in 5 minutes of putting out... I know some one at wal-mart so im just gonna get my copy that way.

[Kev1n]

Hey In the Nov Desktops thread I saw someone with a HL2 coutdown clock on it. Anyone of you HL2 gurus know where i can find this?

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http://www.hlfallout.net/forums/index.php?...opic=12284&st=0

[Kev1n]

I've already pre-ordered it. Dunno when it will arrive,but i hope my GF4MX440 can handle it.

[empty]

just played cs to prepare me, it will be immense!!

[G4M3R]

I have a question about Halflife Source, does anyone know if Valve are going to release this as a stand alone add on?

I know it comes with the silver deal, but I didnt want to pay for that (I got an ATI voucher).

Do you think it will ever be avilable as a download?

[Klownicle]

anyone called any of the stores (us) and asked if they are doing launch a lauch party or anything? what stores did a launch party for Halo 2?

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There is no launch party everyone that was probley planning on buying it has already probley bought it. Hell, I did... :rofl:

[ANova]

Well if this is the case, why do they charge the same as retail? Oh, right, same reason as the publishers: greed.

Tangiable costs make up 50% of a game purchase cost. That is the shop (gets a big cut), delivery (from the factory in china or whereever to the shops) and printing the CD and manual itself.

Frankly Valve should charge $35 for HL2 Bronze - why not $25, I hear you say. Well there is credit card costs, plus bandwidth costs. Add a little extra for the development of steam and that seems right.

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Valve gets less then half of the profits from each product sold, even though they are the ones who created and funded it. And yes, as others have said Valve cannot charge less then $50 as it would be in violation of their contract with VU. Oh and the CD, cardboard box and manual cost VU around $1 per copy in all, which means they are making around 25 times what they pay. It's called buying in bulk.

[filter04]

hmm, online activation and no option for a phone number. thats got to suck for those unfortunate enough not to have a connection. (N)

[+Batfink Subscriber²]

i am under the understanding that they cannot have the price any lower. i could have sworn that in the past i have seen that valve cannot undercut vivendi's prices, as it is against their contract.

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Hmm... An anti-competitive price fixing agreement... Someone call the EU

[Got3n]

omg, how the hell do i preload the game, i dont understand, when i installed steam for counter strike source, it never pre loaded hl2????

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

After taxes, HL2 Bronze cost me ?34.00 - which basically is no cheaper than going out and buying it in the shops here. But I just wanted to get CS : Source to play immediately before too many newbies get on there and wanted to support Valves content delivery system as despite a very shaky start and a lot of bad mouthing, it seems to have matured into a very good product!

:))

[RaWShadow]

Yes that does suck. I hope they make it clear on the box that you must have an internet connection to even play the game.