HL2 & CS:S - Nvidia FX Cards (30% FPS Increase)

[Brandon Live Veteran]

the check from thousands of people that pays 60 bucks is bigger than what ATI might be willing to pay for this scam

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I dunno, the ATI/Valve marketing deal was 6 million dollars, right?

I bet the whole HL2 thing sold many ATI cards. And I bet the number of people who didn't buy HL2 because of its performance on Geforce FX cards was minimal.

[idunno]

so is nvidia gonna fix this or what?

[qoa]

I'm about to try this with a 5700 Ultra.

[qoa]

Haha. Horse manure. Try HL2 30% fps decrease. Having it set that way made me take a pretty major hit. I was getting 35-100 on airboat. With all this garbage on, I got 14 max. It might work better for a 5950, but not an a 5700u. :rolleyes:

Edit: No I didn't do official benchmark or anything. The frame rate drop was rather obvious. Looks like there's a reason I can only select dx 8.1 out of the box.

[riahc3]

WOW Value limiting a competors card.....maybe ATi forced this after all of the delays or they wouldnt support HL2....

[Daxbash5000]

well... what did you expect for such lousy coding anyway? With Doom3 they didn't have to throttle a card vendors FPS, ATI just couldn't handle it... now with HL2 Valve has no choice but to throttle or else you would be seeing "nvidia wins fps race on HL2" in the headlines and ATI would pull out their investment

[Flash]

so is nvidia gonna fix this or what?

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Valve are the ones that need to fix this :angry:

[DjmUK]

so is nvidia gonna fix this or what?

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What..?!?!

As 'Flash' said, it's not Nvidia's problem. I'm guessing you didn't read the original post - this is deliberate by Valve (the makers of Half-Life 2), and this thread is how you can trick the game thinking it's an ATi card to benefit from the increase in performance. There's nothing Nvidia can do.

The bottom line is that ATi & Nvidia cards all work just superbly on this game, Valve wrote the game primarily for ATi users, and this is how we can access those facilities to work on all cards :)

[Hills420]

I wonder if this is purely a coincidence or if it really gives you a 30% increase just because your using an ATI card...

[leovanham]

come on guys were are the benchmarks

[kak]

No, they want their check from ATI.

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Yeah, since ATi is their sole reason for making the game. They made the game to sell it to fans, not as a benchmark for ATi.

But I guess if nVidia fanboys need an excuse for the FX blowing balls, here it is.

[PimpinWithAaron]

No, they want their check from ATI.

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just like doom3 and nvidia...cept ati cards dont suck

[todd]

Yeah, since ATi is their sole reason for making the game. They made the game to sell it to fans, not as a benchmark for ATi.

But I guess if nVidia fanboys need an excuse for the FX blowing balls, here it is.

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way to read.. no one said they made the game for ati to benchmark.. and he never said ati was the sole reason for making the game, he only said when it comes to money from ati and money from customers, valve wants the money from ati.

[ShaneSparky_YYZ]

I tried this on my 5600FX 256mb card and its slower when I do this, but I found no difference in image quality with DX9 compared to DX8. And yes I checked if HL2 said DX9 was enabled and it was :p I'll stick to DX8 seems faster. Besides I heard the FX series sucks using DX9, no surprise that the above happened ;)

[Squirrelington]

btw, all you people complaining about 'valve just wants their ati check', look at valve.avi in the hl2 folder, what does it say in text at the bottom you may ask?

source code licensed from nvidia? whats that? huh?

and forcing higher detail onna card hardly gives a 30% fps increrase.

[[SST]SLAYER]

What happened to djmUK ?

[gunky]

Obviously it has been disabled for a reason. Use this kid's hack at your own risk!! Trust Valve, or some kid?

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The kid doesn't have to worry about losing ATIs money. Does he?

[Argote]

the hack works, ive tried it on a 5900 (read the other post) the Framerate is silky smooth on a 5900 with all details at 1024 in DX9

[UKDarkJedi]

The reason the guys with the 5600/5700's are experiencing such a slowdown is cos they are much less powerful cards than the 5900/5950's that the "kid" tried this on. The fact of the matter is the 5900's and upwards are capable of doing everything (in a round about way) that the 9800 Pro's are, but because the DX9 coding and pathways was better implemented in the 9800's, lots of companies never bothered to include DX9 software coding for NV support, only Ati.

[DjmUK]

SLAYER,Dec 3 2004, 07:42]What happened to djmUK ?

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I'm still here, just been concentrating more on HL2:DM. I do scan through the replies every now and again, and I'm catching up with all the news slowly.

It worked for me, however, the bottom line is:

- DX8.0/8.1 is great for performance

- DX9.0 is great for visuals

So depending on precisely what you want with your game you can choose the best version for your needs. Of course the more RAM and GPU-RAM you have the better your results will be yet again on DX9.0 (and the better your GPU is...higher FX cards have the most impact on framerate increases).

[ANova]

Until someone posts benchmarks and screenshots proving the fact it's all a bunch of rambling created by a pack of fanboys.

[Presi]

Hi guys, I've updated the thread:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?s=...127#post1014127

Check it out if you couldn't make the trick work.

[3l_gr!ngo]

P4 3.0

XFX 6800 Ultra 256mb

1Gb Ram 400mhz

160 Hdd

This is what I have tried so far but without success :

Tried every possible configuration in mother board bios (all apertude sizes, agp 8x 4x 2x, agp fast write on/off etc etc etc)

Tried old drivers, new drivers, Nvidia drivers, Omega drivers etc etc etc... no significant changes

Tried my card in another Pc that had a gforce 4 and was getting 90 110 fps. With my card it went down to 60 70 fps.

Tried it on a system with windows 2000 (im using Xp sp2 btw)

Tried a more powerfull power supply, (all that ended up doing was giving me a headache)

Tried 3 diferent monitors with diferent Hz (Vsync is off)

Funny thing is that it doesn?t matter what settings i use (AA and reflections and shadows all on or all off ) nor what resolution i play in the. Fps always basicly stay the same, even tough the game looks great.

Regarding other games, farcry runs great at max settings and so does Doom 3 (can?t play it on ultra mode tough but from what i?ve heard thats normal) Half life runs great untill i run into a gun fight with and its starts Lag like hell !

Been Spamming forums for help since the 16th november, nothing anyone suggested has helped and all I found was hundreds of High Spec Users with the same prob most of them using nvidia 6800 gt/ultra but a few X800 pro/xt users also share this problem.

[qoa]

I didn't need a benchmark to make my post. The frame rate drop was a good 30-70.

[kairon]

The kid doesn't have to worry about losing ATIs money. Does he?

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Did you read at all?Enabling this decreases FPS, not increases! Apparently you didn't!