DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 [sarcasm] :o [/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Haha yea I know it's obvious, but it's beautiful to finally see it in writing :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Dimsum Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Just wondering how many people care? Well what I really mean is that even if he did...does that suddenly mean hes not good , he sucks or soemthing? Thats what I assume people think but I dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Na he's obviously a great hitter...Steroids can't inmprove hand-eye-coordination, which it takes alot of to hit a 90mph pitch, but alot of those homers he and McGuire hit would have stayed in the park. There is a huge difference in the amount of homer he hit in the beginning of his career compared to recent seasons. But to answer your question it makes him a fraud...IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatestfall Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 this is really old news.. most people knew about this testimony last year.. he said he didn't know they were steriods.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Dimsum Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Well true but , common really to me it seems it only had one big homer season , the one he broke the record the others werent special really as far as home runs go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 quite sad that he didnt know really, I feel sorry for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 yea thats true, but recent seasons have just been a huge turn around compared to when he was younger. I mean he's hit like 50 homers every season for the past 5 years maybe? I'm not sure if that is accurate or not, but I'm willing to bet it's close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 this is really old news.. most people knew about this testimony last year.. he said he didn't know they were steriods.. quite sad that he didnt know really, I feel sorry for him If you guys actually believe that he "didn't know" he was taking steroids then I have a beautiful piece of land in the everglades to sell you :) How do you not notice that rapid gain in weight, strength, and an increase of two sizes in your baseball cap...I mean your head isn't supposed to grow any when your 35 years old :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Dimsum Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 yea thats true, but recent seasons have just been a huge turn around compared to when he was younger. I mean he's hit like 50 homers every season for the past 5 years maybe? I'm not sure if that is accurate or not, but I'm willing to bet it's close. 585032803[/snapback] All I can say about that is hes either that good or hes the only one to take advantage of steriods fully haha and no one else has ever been able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 haha...yea i bet half those dudes are all juiced up. especially olympians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatestfall Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 If you guys actually believe that he "didn't know" he was taking steroids then I have a beautiful piece of land in the everglades to sell you :) How do you not notice that rapid gain in weight, strength, and an increase of two sizes in your baseball cap...I mean your head isn't supposed to grow any when your 35 years old :) 585032818[/snapback] i'm not completely stupid... i know he knew, but he can say he didn't know until the cows come home and he'll be alright.. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 haha true...wouldn't be suprised if nothing comes of this (concerning Bonds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 its been known that he has used steroids a long with mark mcguire and ken caminiti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 There is a huge difference in the amount of homer he hit in the beginning of his career compared to recent seasons. 585032768[/snapback] Hehe...no there isn't. He's NEVER hit very long home runs. Nothing like Mcguire. yea thats true, but recent seasons have just been a huge turn around compared to when he was younger. I mean he's hit like 50 homers every season for the past 5 years maybe? I'm not sure if that is accurate or not, but I'm willing to bet it's close. 585032803[/snapback] Go check out his hr totals for the past 10 years, THEN come back and talk. Here's a hint....your not close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Dimsum Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 yes it isnt big deal in the big picture of everything , but its just give all the people who hate bonds or who doesnt want him to be known as the best something to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 (edited) Go check out his hr totals for the past 10 years, THEN come back and talk. Here's a hint....your not close. Barry Bonds Stat Page@ cbs.sportsline.com Heres a hint...Look at the numbers increase not only in HR but in slugging...and he was hovering around 50 homers since 2000. BTW what does hitting long homers have to do with anything? Edited December 3, 2004 by DreAming in DigITal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Dimsum Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Your right , but again thats not something I would say is so amazing that he coulnt do , man I think the stuff besides the home runs , like batting avg , walks , make you say whoa... now that I think of it mabye the walks are the reason he doesnt average almost 60 a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Barry Bonds Stat Page@ cbs.sportsline.comHeres a hint...Look at the numbers increase not only in HR but in slugging...and he was hovering around 50 homers since 2000. BTW what does hitting long homers have to do with anything? 585032937[/snapback] He hit 46 in 1993 and has been pretty consistant since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 Your right , but again thats not something I would say is so amazing that he coulnt do , man I think the stuff besides the home runs , like batting avg , walks , make you say whoa... now that I think of it mabye the walks are the reason he doesnt average almost 60 a year. yup...like i said he's definately a great ball player...but his first 5 years he hit 16,25,24,19, and 33 homers...then the last five years he hits 49, 73,46,45, and 45 homers, at that age you don't just start slamming homers left and right. But I think your definately right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Barry Bonds Stat Page@ cbs.sportsline.comHeres a hint...Look at the numbers increase not only in HR but in slugging...and he was hovering around 50 homers since 2000. BTW what does hitting long homers have to do with anything? 585032937[/snapback] You're the one who brought up the long home runs, so I responded His HR total hasn't increased. He's been steady for the past 10+ years. Also, his slugging percentage is up because his batting average is way up. Walks don't count in slugging percentage, so he's getting many more singles and doubles than ever before. His K/at bat is QUITE a bit lower than when he was younger. at that age you don't just start slamming homers left and right. But I think your definately right though. Why not? We've seen what Randy Johnson and Clemens can do at that age. We've seen what Jerry Rice can do at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 I didn't say anything about long homers?...but your right that he has been steady for a while, but I would think that is because he hit his physical peak then started using roids to keep up the performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 On top of that, he testified using, what he didn't know was steroids, only in 2003. Show me how those steroids enhanced his season any. Show me the terrible season he had when he came off the roids, like Giambi had. Despite the steroid talk, the buy is clearly a great player, and it seems the roids didn't help him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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