Barry Bonds Used Steriods

[Ayepecks]

I'd say you are kidding yourself.

Indeed! :sleep:

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Whatever you want to think, buddy.

Question: if you didn't care, why would you even bother looking at this topic? Seems you're saying the opposite by posting in this thread.

[rvbfan]

Whatever you want to think, buddy.

Question: if you didn't care, why would you even bother looking at this topic? Seems you're saying the opposite by posting in this thread.

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I would disagree it is not a waste of my time to point out how

utterly stupid it is to fret over what some over priced jock may or may not

be polluting his body with.

90% of the population? Give your head a shake.

[rvbfan]

Whatever you want to think, buddy.

Question: if you didn't care, why would you even bother looking at this topic? Seems you're saying the opposite by posting in this thread.

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I would disagree it is not a waste of my time to point out how

utterly stupid it is to fret over what some over priced jock may or may not

be polluting his body with.

90% of the population? Give your head a shake. There

are 1000's of problems more worthy of your time, no?

[JadeWolf324]

like that wasnt obvious...look at the size of the guy now compared to back in the day.

[Ayepecks]

I would disagree it is not a waste of my time to point out how

utterly stupid it is to fret over what some over priced jock may or may not

be polluting his body with.

90% of the population? Give your head a shake. There

are 1000's of problems more worthy of your time, no?

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You obviously have no clue what I said.

I never said it was the most important problem. If you read my post, you will find that nowhere did I say it was even an important problem. You asked who cares, and I said I'd say that 90% of the population cares, and I would imagine that that's a realistic estimate. And, I repeat my question: if it's just some over-priced jock (how can a jock be "over-priced", anyways? Do you mean "overpaid", perhaps?), then why are you even wasting your time in this topic? Obviously you're one of the 90% who cares, or you wouldn't even be replying.

[L3thal Veteran]

like that wasnt obvious...look at the size of the guy now compared to back in the day.

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What a ignorant way to tell if someone takes steroids or not :no:

[autodefe]

/\ haha that kind of proves the whole point of posting those pics...Barry wasn't in worse shape, he looks like a linebacker. No belly on Barry :)

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Fair enough but I'm sure Barry can manage his alcohol consumption. :shifty:

I mean, it's not just my dad's stomach that's gotten fatter, his whole body is bigger, naturally.

[L3thal Veteran]

erm...those pictures are probably 7 years apart tops.

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Actually, they are more than 7 years apart. Take a look at the year by year difference. I see nothing unusual.

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Actually, they are more than 7 years apart.  Take a look at the year by year difference.  I see nothing unusual.

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I saw that around 5 days ago. Nothing unusual? You don't bulk up with muscle, as your nugget swells without steroids.

[christracy]

the fact of the matter is that he was taking steroids and the length of time between pictures doesnt matter. he did become more developed as a result and the pictures just prove it. u see those guns? you really believe he would have those guns at age 40 if he never used the cream and the clear? he may work out every day but for whatever the length of time he used them he got a boost in his physiology.

[DrunkenMaster]

I saw that around 5 days ago.  Nothing unusual?  You don't bulk up with muscle, as your nugget swells without steroids.

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Compare picture 4 and 16 from this link http://espn.go.com/mlb/gallery/19379073.html there's a fairly obvious difference in the shoulder, forearms and neck - which are very hard to develop from just weightlifting.

He was fairly toned but now he's ballooned. Its hard to explain, but if you do weight training and you're about the same size as the next guy and you lift the same or more than him and he's still bigger/more toned than you are ... there's something wrong. Once you've seen a few juice monkeys you've seen em all. Really easy to spot.

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^^ exactly right. his tone has stayed level, which means it's not just 'getting old weight' He's just more ripped. Your face doesn't get fat when you work out.

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Jaded sports fans are the real crisis

Deep down, we don't want to re-examine sports heroes

Check out the caption from this pic:

Fans say Barry Bonds was wrong to use steroids, but they'll still pay to watch him hit them, Washington Post columnist Mike Wise says.

Call me Jaded, but I don't think i would pay anyone anything to hit me. :laugh:

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6653888/

[autodefe]

Hey BOOG, do you consider Mark McGwire a cheater for using Andro before it was banned?

I'd say Mark was ahead of the curve, just as Barry is. How is it different?

Check out this article.

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No, as it wasn't a banned substance. Did it help him? Sure. But you can't make him guilty because there was no law.

[DrunkenMaster]

Ando as in andosterone?

It should be. Read the banned list by all the cycling associations. They have a huge banned list, and you can get tested at even amateur level. And case in point - there are very few if any monetary rewards until you get to the level of Lance Armstrong and the equipment costs a fortune.

Other sports should adopt a similar attitude.

[autodefe]

No, as it wasn't a banned substance.  Did it help him?  Sure.  But you can't make him guilty because there was no law.

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Neither was "The Cream" or "The Clear".

Oh but we just assume they're 'roids because we're all chemists here, right?;);)

[autodefe]

Ando as in andosterone?

It should be. Read the banned list by all the cycling associations. They have a huge banned list, and you can get tested at even amateur level. And case in point - there are very few if any monetary rewards until you get to the level of  Lance Armstrong and the equipment costs a fortune.

Other sports should adopt a similar attitude.

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Andro as in Androstenedione. It was banned by Major League Baseball in 1998.

[autodefe]

Nice article here, too:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...oenfield/041207

[L3thal Veteran]

Nice article here, too:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...oenfield/041207

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What a great article (Y)