iPod vs Zen Micro, iPod mini vs Muvo2


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fvck you apple for  ruining the ipod.

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I'm an owner of 3G iPod, but I envy those who have 4G iPod. :p

I wish 4G had some backlight on the button, not just on the screen.

Oh well, I don't like my iPod anyway... :(

I think it lacks bass and sounds empty, and horrible battery life.

And combination on bad sound and bad battery life creates another dillema, should I use EQ or not?!?!

I'm planning on getting new color-screen Sony one with Vaio label, since they seem to be willing to MP3 support soon.

Price, size, storage and sound quality are most important to me, and in that order

I just really like the looks of the 3G ipod, thats all.

I hate the 4g.  fvck you apple for  ruining the ipod.

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iPod is clearly lacking/weak in everything you mentioned except size. If size is important, there's the iAudio M3 and Sony NW-HD3.

The 3G was quite respectable in its time, but neither the 3G nor 4G stands a chance against their current competitors in the categories you mentioned (except size... for some).

The iPod isn't a "bad" DAP, I'm just pointing out there are better DAPs out there.

I'm an owner of 3G iPod, but I envy those who have 4G iPod.  :p

I wish 4G had some backlight on the button, not just on the screen.

Oh well, I don't like my iPod anyway...  :(

I think it lacks bass and sounds empty, and horrible battery life.

And combination on bad sound and bad battery life creates another dillema, should I use EQ or not?!?!

I'm planning on getting new color-screen Sony one with Vaio label, since they seem to be willing to MP3 support soon.

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Why do you envy 4G owners?

4G only has a better battery. Thats all.

3G comes with case, remote and dock, none of which 4G has.

3G has a better button layout.

3G has backlit buttons

3G's buttons ar not affected by dust as basly as the 4G's is.

I wish that apple released a 5GB 3G the size of a mini.

The 3G button layout isn't as good as the 4G IMO. You need to move you thumb back out where as on the 4G the buttons are on the wheel. If you have used the 4G you will have trouble getting use to the 3G again. But the touch sensitive controls is much better than what they have on the 4G.

However, the 4G really lacks the cool factor that the 3G had. There text on the wheel does not like up when the backlight is on which is a shame. I really like how there were orange LEDs on the 3G. IMO, the 3 G was the best looking MP3 player created to date. The Mini has to be second. The 4G isn't near any of them.

The 3G button layout isn't as good as the 4G IMO. You need to move you thumb back out where as on the 4G the buttons are on the wheel. If you have used the 4G you will have trouble getting use to the 3G again. But the touch sensitive controls  is much better than what they have on the 4G.

However, the 4G really lacks the cool factor that the 3G had. There text on the wheel does not like up when the backlight is on which is a shame. I really like how there were orange LEDs on the 3G. IMO, the 3 G was the best looking MP3 player created to date. The Mini has to be second. The 4G isn't near any of them.

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I liked the 3G button layot better than the 4Gs. I was playing with a 4G today at futureshop and couldn't get used to it.

I guess that it is just my opinion.

For the 5G, I think that they should make the screen color (low color, not 65K), and have a button layout like the 3G, only with a click wheel. This way, you have volume control.

If you've followed the threads in this forum, how can you still possibly think that the iPod is the best DAP? :/

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Aye I dont even want to get into this whole conversation again.. *sigh*

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:yes:

:sleep:

I used to have the Apple iPod 15GB and I sold that away I just bought a Creative Zen Touch 40GB and I love it and it's much better then Apple iPod in many ways when charging gets slightly warm, when using vey cool, better features, cheaper then iPod, 24hr battery compared to a few hours to iPod, no harddrive noise, better accesories.

But see it doesn't have function. Yes, it looks pretty but if you want something that looks nice for $250, get a hooker. Honestly -- Creative tops it in sound quality, feature list, compatibility with software, and storage space.

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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: post of the year!!

lol..

after reading 13 looong pages :sleep: ive gathered enogh info... and yes i was trapped in that "I NEED A IPOD" though for a while.. but when i went on google and searched for muvo2 vs ipod, to see what differences i can get... i stumbled over this thread.

I have to say that zen mini sounds really really nice :yes: i think im gonna go for the 6gb zen mini now that ive researched a bit into this... i have a muvo2 (4gb) and its pretty cool.. but the only flaw is the super small screen and i dont like that.... the zen looks awesome and the interface is sweet :)

even though i wanted to get a regular 20gb ipod (looooooooots of space) i think ill just go for the 6gb one.. i have 260+ songs on my muvo2 and i still have 2.8 gb left :)

thanks a lot for all of the info guys ;)

I have to say that zen mini sounds really really nice :yes: i think im gonna go for the 6gb zen mini now that ive researched a bit into this...

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You surely have researched on it?

I have NEVER heard about anything about Zen MINI. :D :p

If you want to get a Zen Micro, I suggest you get it quickly as possible right now because now the limited editions ones (LTD Ed includes a free battery that costs like $40) are REALLY rare.

Btw, the version is 5GB.

the 1GB, 4GB, and the 6GB version is said to come out late in February but I'm expecting some delays.

P.S. I prefer 5GB because it's the best deal.

Yup. yup quite true.

Also Hitachi upgraded their microHDD. It used to be 4GB, which the iPod mini used, but now it is available in either 8 or 10GB in the same size. There could be a new mini coming out soon.

(Hoping that Creative does it too)

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awesome - 10 GB mini hdd would make a perfect player - tiny like zen micro or ipod mini, but full capacity (my music takes up 24Gb, but i am sure i can easily squeeze it to 10Gb of the better stuff. i highly doubt i listen to all of it anyways)

any idea when we can expect the 10Gb mini hdd players?

btw, as for now Rio Carbon 5gb looks like a best buy vs mini or micro.

Their new firmware supports Windows Explorer-style interfacing, right?

As in... mountable - if you can flash it (or if it comes pre-flashed) it should work no probs.

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The Zen Mirco does.

Zen Xtra/Touch require you to install Nomad Explorer (or a third-party program). They're is not driver-less yet, but there's rumors about a MTP firmware update.

I would definatly go for the creative zens products just for the value for money and the extra battery life. The only thing is is creative zens compatible with Macs? as I maybe getting one in the future. thanks.

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so the answer is yes then? does anyone actually have a mac and a creative zen?

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