The Definitive "BEST DEFRAG" thread

[MxxCon]

i'm so sick of these threads poping up every single week. so here's the one and only thread you should need untill the end of your life. moderator can modify poll entries to update.

BEST DEFRAG

[Redestium]

O&O hands down.  Best options, best capabilities....

Don't even use norton BS anymore, gotten to bloated IMO

speed disk couldn't get more bloated. it didn't chance since WinNT version came out.

and if you know anything about defraging you'll know that speed disk optimizes your drive best possible way..

So it's bloated and the best in your opinion?? :laugh:

Also could you explain why it optimizes the best since I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't know all the ins and outs of defraging. I was using Speed Disk for a long time but just recently tried O&O (still trying to find out what O&O stands for) and I think it's great--I'd really like to know your thoughts on both of those.

[MxxCon]

i don't think "speed disk" is bloated at all. it comes with bloated norton system works, but speed disk itself so pretty slim.

speed disk position directory entries and MFT+ reserved space to very begining of the disk, followed by customizable "files placed 1st", after that comes "frequently accessed" files, followed by "infrequently modified", followed by "normal" files, followed by "frequently modified", followed by free space, followed by "infrequently accessed" files, followed by customizable "files placed last".

as you can see this system achives the best possible performance with least possible fragmentation. some defragers implement some of these methods, but none use all of them combined.

[iwod]

I am wondiering why no one mention perfect disk............ i heard it is EXTREMELY GOOD!!!!

I have used it........ ( it is slow compare to other defrag ) but seems to be very good in terms of the framentation % it gets after defrag.

[uniacidz]

Best one i found was Power Defrag Pro

Uses the built in defrag utility of Windows, but the program once run will reboot system, before system loads software/services, will perform a defrag(which is best) and then once complete will reboot back into windows.

Works on Win98, but i havent tried on XP yet.

Will try now actually outa interest.

[caerma]

Windows builtin or Norton one.

[DavidGP]

O&O Defrag is my weapon of fragment annihilation!

[Schmoove]

O&O and Diskeeper, both are very good. Though I like O&O a little better.

[helmers]

Also could you explain why it(speed disk) optimizes the best since I'm sure I'm not the only one that doesn't know all the ins and outs of defraging. I was using Speed Disk for a long time but just recently tried O&O (still trying to find out what O&O stands for) and I think it's great--I'd really like to know your thoughts on both of those.

Speed disk is a lot better, because it does things its own way, not needing the MS API. This means it can move stuff in REAL TIME without needing to reboot. One problem, once MS changes its specs, it stops working. But that haven't happend yet.

O&O is poopty, it looks like a toy, and have crashed several machines. Perfect disk is very good, disKeeper is super fast. and very well tested(since the NT days).

But all you need is something to move you MFT and pagefile(look at www.sysinternals.com), plus the built-in one. Most of the other defraggers don't use the C:\windows\prefetch data, thus wasting a resource. If I remember MS correctly they will get MFT support in the next Windows version's built-in defragger.

Most users have no use for anything but the built-in one in WindowsXP. But please tell what makes O&O so great.

[fdiaz2day]

I use windows builtin.

[Redestium]

i don't think "speed disk" is bloated at all. it comes with bloated norton system works, but speed disk itself so pretty slim.

speed disk position directory entries and MFT+ reserved space to very begining of the disk, followed by customizable "files placed 1st", after that comes "frequently accessed" files, followed by "infrequently modified", followed by "normal" files, followed by "frequently modified", followed by free space, followed by "infrequently accessed" files, followed by customizable "files placed last".

as you can see this system achives the best possible performance with least possible fragmentation. some defragers implement some of these methods, but none use all of them combined.

Nice info, where did you find it? I'd be curious to find out how these other programs handle their defraging methods--especially O&O since they have 5.

[MxxCon]

Nice info, where did you find it?

by running speed disk :rolleyes: and reading help file..

you can run other defrag program and then analyse from speed disk and see how they moved all the files..

[Samoa]

I use Executive Software for NT. Built in for 9x OSes. Main difference is the NT kernal. don't use Power defrag with NT. And PD doesn't do well at all when it comes to it.

My friend uses Speed Disk. never asked why. But I like ES. Nice and Fast and does the job. :D

[Redestium]

by running speed disk :rolleyes: and reading help file..

you can run other defrag program and then analyse from speed disk and see how they moved all the files..

DOH!! :blush:

Thanks for pointing that one out, ;) .

[ad.J]

Builtin :)

[ninjakat]

What defragmentation type do you all use with O&O?

[Kontrollverlust]

I'm using Norton SpeedDisk. It defrags both of my drives while I'm at school every day :) Seems to work well for me

[Arckon]

I was under the impression that SpeedDisk doesn't defrag your page file, MFT, and other similiar files. That's why I switched from SpeedDisk to O&O Defrag.

[doxtr111]

I've tried them all and I've really settled on VOPTXP. Works fast and I do mean fast and will easily defrag multiple drives. Go to www.goldenbow.com and see for yourself...free trial. I don't work for them, I'm just a consumer.

[Zip]

o&o :D

[Joel]

I was under the impression that SpeedDisk doesn't defrag your page file, MFT, and other similiar files. That's why I switched from SpeedDisk to O&O Defrag.

It does in Set it and Forget it mode, schedule it and restart to run the task.

[martinsc]

I actually found a vb script online, that runs in a loop for all your HD's and defrags them (it uses Windows built in). This way you can make it a scheduled task for all partitions. :)

Here's the source of the vb script - if somone wants to have it...

'defrag_all.vbs - Defrags all hard disks - Can be run as a Scheduled Task

'? Doug Knox - 3/29/2002

'This code may be freely distributed/modified

Set WshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")

  Dim fso, d, dc

  Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")

  Set dc = fso.Drives

  For Each d in dc

      If d.DriveType = 2 Then

Return = WshShell.Run("defrag " & d & " -f", 1, TRUE)

      End If

  Next

Set WshShell = Nothing

[Gweedo]

I've tried defragging software and then checked it using the built-in and it always shows it as like 99% fragmented. So I just stick with the built-in.

[Redestium]

I've tried defragging software and then checked it using the built-in and it always shows it as like 99% fragmented. So I just stick with the built-in.

That shouldn't be... :no:

[Yoz7120]

I also use VoptXP on multiple disks and partitions.

[MxxCon]

mindlessly aiming for "100%" defrag is pretty silly.

sure your files might be "perfectly" defraged but in order to achive that, most likely, they are suboptimally positioned on the disk.

it's ok if a file is broken in 2 segments, it's not ok if a file is broken into 2000 segments, and it's not ok if a critical file is broken into 50 segments.

i can garantee you that you won't notice any difference if your file system is defragged at 100%, 98% or 95% or even 90%