The Official Mac OS X "Tiger" Thread

[PureLogic]

Where did you get that information from?

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[Southern Patriot]

I was under the impression that developers knew that the Tiger release was imminent because Apple removed the build numbers from the 'about this mac' dialog box and instead had just 10.4... maybe not though...

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You can always click on the "Version 10.x" in the About Box to get the build number (this has worked at least as far back as Jaguar, which was the first version I used). On some machines, if you click it one more time, you will get your computer's serial number.

[Spacedog]

Here you can read a list of all of Tiger's 200 new features. There really is something for everyone.

[neostyle]

the one thing I really noticed that was really cool, tiger is much faster then panther. Response time is like quadruple!

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yeah gui response is much faster , but not everything is that fast .

here is a nice comparison

[+StevoFC MVC]

so how bad is it to just upgrade rather than clean install?

i have tons of **** on my ibook so i'd rather not have to format, but are there many more problems in just upgrading?

[Southern Patriot]

so how bad is it to just upgrade rather than clean install?

i have tons of **** on my ibook so i'd rather not have to format, but are there many more problems in just upgrading?

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Upgrade installs on both of my machines (formerly running Panther). Both are working fine.

[SYPHADIUS]

I upgraded and it messed up my anit-virus and some other software... so from *caution* on upgrading.

backup and then upgrade.

[Southern Patriot]

I upgraded and it messed up my anit-virus and some other software... so from *caution* on upgrading.

backup and then upgrade.

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Not surprising at all that your anti-virus would break. The other programs you had mentioned earlier are system hacks, so yeah, I'd expect them to break too.

Basically, if you have installed anything that modifies system files, then a clean install is the best bet. Otherwise, an upgrade will probably work just as well.

[macssuck]

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I ask because it's not mentioned in AHIG (local disk reference) at all, and interface builder calls everything by something else.

Thanx.

[SYPHADIUS]

Not surprising at all that your anti-virus would break.  The other programs you had mentioned earlier are system hacks, so yeah, I'd expect them to break too. 

Basically, if you have installed anything that modifies system files, then a clean install is the best bet.  Otherwise, an upgrade will probably work just as well.

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I'm still fairly new to the mac environment, so I would agree with you on that. Any changes done to the system would compromise the upgrade itself, but I have heard and experienced myself some lock ups with mac office 2004 while using entourage... this is not to say that tiger mucked it up, but still caution on upgrading.

and if you look at some of my previous screenshots you can see on my desktop that all icons now have name extension which they did not have on panther... still puzzled on that one.

[Scazza]

Like you sig Scazza and your site. :D

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thanks dude.

back on topic.

Apple screwed me over, preordered it and they took the money out of my account! lol.

I always thought that they wudnt until they had shipped the item.

[Bling3k12]

Isn't Platinum the name of the GUI for OS 9?

[aristotle-dude]

thanks dude.

back on topic.

Apple screwed me over, preordered it and they took the money out of my account! lol.

I always thought that they wudnt until they had shipped the item.

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Took the money out of your account? Did you pre-order at a store on online? Did you use a credit card or check card?

Merchants alway put hold on funds on credit cards when they preauthorize a purchase.

Are you sure they actually took the money or is it just a preauthorization?

Merchants want to be sure your Credit card actually has the balance and it prevents you from overcharging by buying other things on the same credit amount.

As a consumer, it may "feel" like you have already been charged but you will not be charged interest on it until they confirm the transaction at the time of shipping. If, for some reason, they could not ship it to you and the order was cancelled, they would only have to request the hold/authorization to be removed rather than going through the trouble of crediting your account.

Edited April 14, 2005 by aristotle-dude

[Hills420]

I pre-ordered my copy already. I can't wait...

[PureLogic]

Isn't Platinum the name of the GUI for OS 9?

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Yeah I think it is. :)

[Southern Patriot]

and if you look at some of my previous screenshots you can see on my desktop that all icons now have name extension which they did not have on panther... still puzzled on that one.

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Go to Finder -> Preferences -> Advanced and turn off the "show all file extensions" check mark. I think one of my machines did that too. Simple enough to fix though.

[Southern Patriot]

Took the money out of your account? Did you pre-order at a store on online? Did you use a credit card or check card?

Merchants alway put hold on funds on credit cards when they preauthorize a purchase.

Are you sure they actually took the money or is it just a preauthorization?

Merchants want to be sure your Credit card actually has the balance and it prevents you from overcharging by buying other things on the same credit amount.

As a consumer, it may "feel" like you have already been charged but you will not be charged interest on it until they confirm the transaction at the time of shipping. If, for some reason, they could not ship it to you and the order was cancelled, they would only have to request the hold/authorization to be removed rather than going through the trouble of crediting your account.

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(Y) Yep, that is what most likely happened. I'd almost guarantee that his was a check card. I work at a hotel and we constantly have people complaining about things like this.

Listen people: contrary to what the advertisements tell you, a check card does NOT act just like a credit card. They ARE processed differently. If a business does a pre-authorization on your check card, that money is coming out of your account immediately! For places like hotels that do a pre-authorization at one time, and the actual charge at another, you can sometimes actually see TWO charges show up on your card for a few days. The second charge eventually will drop off and the money will be returned to your account, but I've seen this take a week or more.

[Bling3k12]

Yeah I think it is. :)

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I thought so, and was wondering why it got mentioned in here... :p

[SYPHADIUS]

Go to Finder -> Preferences -> Advanced and turn off the "show all file extensions" check mark.  I think one of my machines did that too.  Simple enough to fix though.

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oh nice! thanks man, weird that it did that after the upgrade.

[Southern Patriot]

oh nice! thanks man, weird that it did that after the upgrade.

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Hey, if that's the worst that happens, we can consider ourselves lucky. I think it reset some file associations on me as well (mainly AVI's were opening with Quicktime instead of VLC; again, an easy fix).

[Koyder]

Slightly off-topic: which version of the Tiger box do you like more? Fore some reason I find the old one (the one without the Apple logo) more attractive than the one they've decided to go with.

[SYPHADIUS]

the first one looks like X-men logo. either that or Malcom X

[NeoXY]

the first one looks like X-men logo. either that or Malcom X

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yes, yes it does...

[PureLogic]

I hope there's a way to change Safari's brushed to Plastic!

[Corona]

I hope there's a way to change Safari's brushed to Plastic!

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that would be cool really :cool: