The Official Mac OS X "Tiger" Thread

[Southern Patriot]

Hey Roadwarrior, how does Tiger run on your iBook?

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It runs great. See above posts. :D

Maybe I'm just lucky? Or maybe I don't try to push it toooooo hard, but I do use it daily at least 6 to 8 hours a day.

[mikedc1760]

Nice guys thats what I was looking to hear :yes:

You only have 128 more RAM than me but I think my processor and video card should compensate for that tiny difference. I can't wait to get Tiger....

[Shetland]

I am looking to get a Powerbook at the end of this year/start of next year (i suspect there will be a hardware revision too :) )

and intend on getting 1GB RAM, this will be alright for all this dashboard stuff right? I have seen alot of people saying its slow for them, but they are on under 512.. is it totally dependant on RAM?

I will also be getting the top-line graphics card that they have.

at the moment that's the 9700 128mb Dual, I suspect it will be upgraded after next revision

[Vice]

I have 384MB Ram and Dashboard is not slow for me at all, on the other hand my iBook does not support core image which may be the reason it runs so nicely its smooth fast/instant even.

[Fusion]

same 384mb and I have an indicator at the top right that tells me how much ram is free, right now I have 10 applications open of varied spec requirements and I'm only using 269MB - 115MB free. even with Photoshop open it does not go over 290MB.

Some guy on here once said "the more ram the better" then everyone and there mum changed the story to "YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS MUCH RAM!!!" then its "oh if you don't get this much ram don't even buy a mac you will be freezing all the time" Allot of you need to wake up and smell the mocha.

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I don't know how you have your system setup, but that would be near impossible on my powerbook.

I have 1.25gb of RAM and I constantly run out still. About 2gb would be the sweet spot for me. OS X is RAM hungry, and it's probably one of the best (and cheapest) upgrades you can do to your system.

I'm not sure that anyone said if you don't have enough you will be freezing all the time, but the more RAM you have, the better. The key is having enough that you don't have to start using virtual memory but not having too much as a waste.

I just opened up activity monitor while browsing this thread, and sure enough I am already out of RAM! I don't even have my usual amount of tabs open in Safari, FTP client open, Apache server running, MS office running or nearly the normal amount of open documents in skEdit. I don't understand how some of you can get on with below 1gb of memory.

Also, for you laptop owners, more RAM = longer battery life. The less you have to page out to your disk, the better for your battery.

Edited April 24, 2005 by Fusion

[mikedc1760]

Right. The lack of the "ripple" effect doesn't bother that much plus I'm not a developer and I don't need core image. All should be well on my iBook ;)

[mikedc1760]

That is alot of apps your running fusion. I don't ever run that many applications never mind those heavy apps your running at he same time.

[radioboy]

another awesome discovery

i have my lower-left corner set to start the screensaver, which has a password

now if you hit a key/move the mouse/whatever to escape the screen saver in the first few seconds (ie you accidentally hit it), it doesnt prompt for a password

[Fusion]

Right. The lack of the "ripple" effect doesn't bother that much plus I'm not a developer and I don't need core image. All should be well on my iBook?;))

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Gotcha. I figured that had to be it. What apps do you commonly run together?

That is about a medium load for me, my powerbook can handle most web dev stuff I throw at it. Where it really starts to bog down is running Logic Express. That's when I start to wish I had my G5 back.

My fiance currently has 512mb in her iBook and it runs out fairly often as well. Her main culprits being MS Office and iPhoto.

[mikedc1760]

I mostly just have Safari, Mail, and iChat running. If I have a paper to write, iWork (Pages) comes in too. It's all basic stuff, thats why I bought an iBook. But, I plan to get a PB G5 when they come out :rofl:

[.Dan]

Hi.. well i buy a Family Pack of Tiger and i just whant to know how it gonna works i have 5 Mac's and i whant to know how do i install the Family Pack and what i have to do in the registration part.

Thanks

Dan

[radioboy]

you get one cd, just install it all of them as normal

the only difference is the license agreement

[toastyghost]

Hi.. well i buy a Family Pack of Tiger and i just whant to know how it gonna works i have 5 Mac's and i whant to know how do i install the Family Pack and what i have to do in the registration part.

Thanks

Dan

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To be fair, you could have just got the one copy since I've never known Apple to actually do licensing checks.

As far as I know, you still only get the one DVD, just the bit of paper with 'License' at the top states 5 users instead of one.

And on the RAM issue. I had 256 in my Powerbook for a long time, and it was more than enough for the basic usage I had. Photoshop caused a lot of beachball spinning, but never to the extent it felt sluggish. Upgrading did give a noticeable speed increase, but I can't say I'd be unable to live without it.

I have 768 in my iMac G5, and thats plenty.

[Shetland]

Will 1GB of RAM in a powerbook be enough for someone who wishes to run on a normal day for example...

The usual email, IM client like msn, firefox or safari, photo album and a music player like itunes and photoshop CS? so i can be multitasking those?

like for example i'd be:

drawing in photoshop while listening to my music; then at the same time I have iphoto open to look through my photo's; while chatting every now and then to people; then also i have a webpage open; probably reading this thread:P.*

or will I need more? I am tempted to get a 512mb powerbook and stick another 1GB in myself for 1.5gb, cheaper.; but this is my first Mac and I am really worried about messing it up.

note: i have no mac yet, waiting till the end of the year.

* that's what i'd be doing right now on this PC, so i am thinking in terms of that.

[Senseotech]

Will 1GB of RAM in a powerbook be enough for someone who wishes to run on a normal day for example...

The usual email, IM client like msn, firefox or safari, photo album and a music player like itunes and photoshop CS? so i can be multitasking those?

like for example i'd be:

drawing in photoshop while listening to my music; then at the same time I have iphoto open to look through my photo's; while chatting every now and then to people; then also i have a webpage open; probably reading this thread:P.*

or will I need more? I am tempted to get a 512mb powerbook and stick another 1GB in myself for 1.5gb, cheaper.; but this is my first Mac and I am really worried about messing it up.

note: i have no mac yet, waiting till the end of the year.

* that's what i'd be doing right now on this PC, so i am thinking in terms of that.

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I do that on a daily basis on a 1.2 ghz iBook w/ 512 megs of RAM, so 1 gig will be more than enough.

[JK1150]

i'm actually picking up a 17" imac soon when tiger comes out.

one question though, will they have an updated hardware or prices on the 29th?

[.Dan]

Yea thats the rumors on 26 to be exactly..

Dan

Look In Here

[toastyghost]

Just thought I'd show off the RSS feed screensaver a little...

[Senseotech]

I saw a video of the RSs screensaver in action. Absolutely amazing. I need to start a list of RSS feeds so I can make use of this thing.

[Billthy]

ya does look nice but i always close my powerbook so there is no use for a screensaver

[mikedc1760]

Same here with my iBook. Never really used RSS to begin with.

[Timan Veteran]

imo the album art is one of the best screen savers I've seen, I just wish it would play music in the background.

[mrelusive978]

I don't know how you have your system setup, but that would be near impossible on my powerbook.

I have 1.25gb of RAM and I constantly run out still. About 2gb would be the sweet spot for me. OS X is RAM hungry, and it's probably one of the best (and cheapest) upgrades you can do to your system.

I'm not sure that anyone said if you don't have enough you will be freezing all the time, but the more RAM you have, the better. The key is having enough that you don't have to start using virtual memory but not having too much as a waste.

I just opened up activity monitor while browsing this thread, and sure enough I am already out of RAM! I don't even have my usual amount of tabs open in Safari, FTP client open, Apache server running, MS office running or nearly the normal amount of open documents in skEdit. I don't understand how some of you can get on with below 1gb of memory.

Also, for you laptop owners, more RAM = longer battery life. The less you have to page out to your disk, the better for your battery.

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Yeah, Fusion, I run OmniWeb with usually 20+ tabs open, Mail, iChat, iTunes, all the time and I have 1.4 GB of 2GB free, but if I open iPhoto and scrub through my photos (6000+) it drops down to about 16-32MB! If not running iPhoto I can have PS CS, Pages, and others open and it doesn't drop like that. Makes me want another 2GB just to avoid that sort of stuff...hopefully Tiger will help with the iPhoto issue, I hate watching it stutter as I scroll through my library...

EDIT: Just to say, even with this sort of memory usage, except for iPhoto jerking as I scroll, the system doesnt ever slow down...I can even play Doom 3 with no FPS loss like that. Thank the Gods at IBM for the G5...

[Huy]

I am tempted to get a 512mb powerbook and stick another 1GB in myself for 1.5gb, cheaper.; but this is my first Mac and I am really worried about messing it up.

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I have the new 12" PowerBook G4's that come with 512MB ram.

It is actually the same as the previous '04 model. It comes with 256MB default soldered onto the board and they used up the spare DIMM slot with 256MB, to give you 512MB total.

It is NOT a 512MB chip soldered onto the board and one free-slot to insert 1GB if you wanted to do so later. This is my problem right now. I have 256MB onboard + 256MB in the spare (thanks to Apple) and now I wish to add a 512MB stick, to give me 768 (after taking out Apple's 256).

I would have liked to have 1GB total, 512 default onboard and adding another 512MB myself to make 1GB. If you're going to add 1GB, you'll end up with 1.25GB total after taking out the 256 in the spare. :o

[Fusion]

Yeah, Fusion, I run OmniWeb with usually 20+ tabs open, Mail, iChat, iTunes, all the time and I have 1.4 GB of 2GB free, but if I open iPhoto and scrub through my photos (6000+) it drops down to about 16-32MB! If not running iPhoto I can have PS CS, Pages, and others open and it doesn't drop like that. Makes me want another 2GB just to avoid that sort of stuff...hopefully Tiger will help with the iPhoto issue, I hate watching it stutter as I scroll through my library...

EDIT: Just to say, even with this sort of memory usage, except for iPhoto jerking as I scroll, the system doesnt ever slow down...I can even play Doom 3 with no FPS loss like that. Thank the Gods at IBM for the G5...

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Yeah, I think that is the key. I was looking for a system that would never (or rarely) slow down. I suppose if you are okay with the occasional beach ball, not having a ton of RAM is not that big of a deal, but it is very nice to run a system that can take whatever you throw at it.