Would you ever go back?


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Not trying to start a fanboyism, so no flaming plz, this is just a harmless question. And admins, if this is somehow a repeat of a past post (dont think it is) then you can close it with no problems.

Ive used knoppix, gnoppix, and ubuntu so far. Im currently on ubuntu, and Ive only been on linux for about 2 or 3 weeks. During this short time, I have found an immense love for linux. Its just so much more controllable, and open ended, compared to windows which has so many restrictions. I keep a dual boot with windows though, because of games, VB class, and quicktime web videos (anyone know a command to install a plugin to get totem to view web videos like this one?). If it wasnt for these things, I would go full linux. I havent had any problems so far caused by spyware or viruses, (lol just me crashing the system with my n00bism, but how else am i gonna learn). If it wasnt for the lil things i listed above, i would never go back to windows.

what are your thoughts on linux at the moment, and would you ever go back to only windows?

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I use both, OSX and Solaris.

Why? Because they all get the job done in different aspects of computing. So no, I would not go back to any of them, since I never left them.

Linux is good, Linux is nice, it's developing but it has several issues that are part of how the system is built and the core design behind it that I do not personally like. Issues that cannot be fixed without going back to the drawing board and completely building an OS from scratch - on new hardware without any of the legacy constraints of todays antiquated computer technology and thinking.

Same goes for Windows and OSX tho'.

I stopped using Windows about 2? years ago, after dual-booting for around 6 months.

I enjoy the freedom and the administrative power Linux gives me over my PC. It is problem-free for me, and 'just works'. My wife uses Windows, and my kids play a wide variety games, so they use Windows now (they were on Linux, but I didn't want to deal with wine, so bought Windows for them). I have also learned alot> more about computers using Linux than I have ever learned from using Windows.

There is nothing I do that requires Windows, so I have no need to consider going back.

Not going back to windows here, i went back to it after a dissappointing experience with Fedora Core 3, although that was my fault not Fedora's. Ubuntu has made me very pleased, its like being introduced to computers for the first time again and being amazed. I'm still learing the command line and just learned how to succesfully install Nvidia drivers (just look at how many threads i've made. Everyone says keep a windows box around jsut for gaming, but the older i get the less games are entertaining. Although i'm still a big fan of quake i haven't go that working yet ;)

bottom line, NO i won't go back to windows, when longhorn is released i will be building a decent budget rig at that time to experience that OS first hand. Then if i'm not impressed with it i'll just sell the system.

I use both linux and windows. Why? I'm a gamer, and I like to keep up on the latest titles. Sure, I still play Raven Shield, or Ghost Recon, but I also want SWAT4, Battlefield2, and whatever else is in the pipe. Cedega doesn't really cut it.

But for the day to day stuff? I'd say the two platforms are about even.

I use Windows only for MS Money, as my bank needs me to use it (or Quicken) for on-line banking. Other than that, the security, no BSOD, freedom to configure as needed, no EULAs, no defragging, updates that cover every program on my computer, not just the OS, and the multitude of Linux flavors does it for me.

I would think of more stuff, but it is time for dinner.... mmmmmmmm :)

Barney

I "still" get a kick out of the Linux users who are so in love with this operating system and yet still "keep" windows around to play games and program. Man, it's a hypocriticle jungle out there......

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Please make sense, and clerify.

I "still" get a kick out of the Linux users who are so in love with this operating system and yet still "keep" windows around to play games and program. Man, it's a hypocriticle jungle out there......

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People keep it around because they have to. Unless they're playing Doom 3 or UT2004 (or some other games), they need windows in order to play those games. I'm sure that most of these people would get rid of windows completely given the oppurtunity.

I "still" get a kick out of the Linux users who are so in love with this operating system and yet still "keep" windows around to play games and program. Man, it's a hypocriticle jungle out there......

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What? Complaining about Linux distros or Apple's systems not running games extensively designed for Windows is like complaining about not being able to run games exclusively designed for your X-BOX on your Nintendo GameCube. Point?

At least in many instances painstakingly difficult work has gone into getting some Windows stuff to work under Crossover Office, Cedega, and WINE.

I used Gentoo for a long while, but ultimately, no matter how much configuring and how many different WM's I tried, it still felt like beta software, to be honest.

I kept it around, because it worked well enough for everything, and I liked using it, but one day, I came back to windows, and haven't left since.

I doubled my framerate in UT2004 when I switched to windows. That says a whole lot about Linux Gaming, even when games are designed to run on it. (And yes, I'm sure it wasn't just my driver configuration, etc)

I "still" get a kick out of the Linux users who are so in love with this operating system and yet still "keep" windows around to play games and program. Man, it's a hypocriticle jungle out there......

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Trollllllllllllllllll :no:

I'm Linux-only and don't intend to ever look back - not really, that is. OTOH, I'm into game development, and while Linux is a great development platform, you have to ensure Windows compatibility if you plan to make a dime (except if you're into console-only development, in that case it doesn't really matter whether you use Windows or Linux)...

Everything I need is available for Linux (and that's quite a lot of stuff), and to play a game once in a while, I prefer my PS2 or Gamecube anytime - except for KOTOR2, which works perfectly with Cedega, and Doom? and UT2004, both available for Linux anyway.

BTW, anyone checked the recent news on KDE's Tenor technology? That's the type of stuff I simply love about Linux: it would be next to impossible to introduce and deploy a framework like that at a large scale on any proprietary operating system (no, Apple's Spotlight or WinFS doesn't cut it - Tenor is even more advanced than Beagle, and will be deeply rooted in the KDE framework).

I "still" get a kick out of the Linux users who are so in love with this operating system and yet still "keep" windows around to play games and program. Man, it's a hypocriticle jungle out there......

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*cough*

Just because we "keep" Window$ to play games that dont run in Linux, or with Cedega, or winex, means we don't like Linux? Man, it's a judgemental jungle out there...

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In order to do that, you would have to leave out any HDDs during initialization, and even then, the system partitions are always written to two HDDs when they are eventually added. With three NVMe slots, this also gives an interesting scenario where you could build a TRAID storage Pool for installing all your apps and Docker on, and keep the third for SSD cache on the HDD pool. Limitless options! SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 5 GbE hub was well within acceptable ranges. Although the read result on SATA was a little less than with the F4-425 Plus, for some reason, while writes were generally better. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. TOS 7, which, as of testing, is still in Beta, comes with an App Center that has a bunch of handy programs you can install right off the bat, such as Emby, Plex, Docker, as well as in-house Backup and Surveillance solutions. As you can imagine, any media streaming services you would want to host off the F4-425 Pro will work great, thanks to the Intel Core N350 CPU and its 16 GB of DDR5 memory. Accessing from mobile is only possible if Security Isolation Mode is disabled, which can put your NAS at risk from external sources, so there was no way to access it from the TNAS Mobile app. It's also quiet. I had this sat next to my computer on my work desk for the past week, and I did wonder if the noise I was accustomed to with NAS devices would annoy me, but all I could hear was a soft whirring of the rear fan (which was a little annoying) when the disks were not actively copying or reading data. Conclusion So what have I learned? Unfortunately, this release raises a few important questions and concerns that I feel haven't been adequately addressed. What I didn't like Our variant shipped with TOS 7 beta, and it's advised not to use it in a production environment. I feel that's a bit limiting on an $800 device. The mobile app is also still in beta and does not support some of the first-party apps, like Surveillance, and it still has quite a few bugs. I am a bit confused about the OpenClaw marketing along with the F4-425 Pro. I feel like that if it's going to be a main selling point, then offer official guidance on how to get started with it. TerraMaster recommends enabling SPC, but then markets the NAS for use with OpenClaw, which requires disabling SPC to be able to use it, opening up genuine security concerns for the NAS; and that's before you get into the security concerns of OpenClaw itself. Of course, the above issues won't be a problem if you decide to install something else on it, or even go back to the stable TOS 6. I wish TerraMaster had just given TOS 7 as opt-in rather than shipping with it. TOS 7 has been available as a preview since December 2025 (so well before my last TerraMaster review), and according to a thread on Reddit where a user shared a screenshot from the TerraMaster Facebook page, it is scheduled to launch today, June 23, but there's nothing about that in the TerraMaster news blog. My contact confirmed over email that TOS 7 exits beta today. The rubber feet also deserve a mention as they continue to be a problem, with them coming unstuck the moment you shift the F4-425 Pro anywhere on your desk. What I liked What it comes down to, though, aside from what I already mentioned, you are still getting a quality, affordable device here, so recommending it will depend on the individual's use case. If you're just looking for a relatively small NAS device to manage virtual machines on, backup your files, and take care of your home theater streaming, then it is a great device that will certainly futureproof you for some time. It provides good performance, takes up little space, and is, on the whole, very quiet. Four bays afford proper redundancy using TRAID or RAID 5, and you can even expand on storage capacity by adding the 2-bay D5, or 4-bay D8 Hybrid DAS over a USB 3.2 (10Gbps) link. Considering the 2024 releases were more about power, with the likes of an Intel Core i5-1235U high-end laptop CPU under the hood, I asked my contact last time if we could expect more of the same in higher-end models and was told: It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N350 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the F4-425 Pro is intended for, media streaming and backup. The only downside is still the clear lack of community and even staff support on the official forums. In the past, I have had topics go unanswered for days, or there would be generic-type "we've noted this and passed it onto our developer team" type responses. Along with the other things I mentioned, it all ends up costing it a couple of points. If you are comfortable with the command line, Docker, and setting up TrueNAS or Unraid, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. In TOS, the apps are a bit lacking, and things don't always work as expected.\ AI NAS?! What has become clear to me this year is that we are going to start seeing all kinds of "AI NAS" come to market, and while that might be good for us consumers, be diligent and research these claims. Although the F4-425 Pro technically comes with AI, it is really using a cloud service that is externally sourced off-device through the third party OpenClaw app. My colleague did review a newcomer to the NAS space earlier this year, and it includes a local AI assistant inside the Zettlab D4 NAS, and they do not even use AI in the product name, check out Chris' review here. Where to buy and a discount coupon However, it does not change the fact that this is truly a great entry-level home media-class NAS that you can buy right now. TerraMaster is having a 20% off launch discount, plus you can also still apply our unique 10% off coupon on checkout, which only works on the official website. So here is a breakdown of the pricing that is only valid on the official TerraMaster website. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $575.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $503.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £525.59 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £460.79 Use NEOWIN coupon code during checkout for 10% discount Over on Amazon US and UK, the F4-425 Pro also gets a 20% launch discount, but here, the above 10% coupon cannot be applied. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for $639.99 at Amazon US (was $799.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for $559.99 at Amazon US (was $699.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for £583.99 at Amazon UK (was £729.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for £511.99 at Amazon UK (was £639.99) As an Amazon Associate, when you purchase through links on our site, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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