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The Xbox 360 seems to have potential but what new stuff is coming up for the system? Some launch titles, and then Halo 3. Then what..? Where is the innovation behind the system?

I'm asking seriously; does the system seem like it'll have a long, healthy lifetime?

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I hate to be critical, but it seems like they are starting off on the wrong foot. I still have yet to see my first XBox360 ad on TV or in a magazine other then a video game one or any hard information of what games are being released. They are releasing in 5 months and they have done practically next to nothing in marketing to reach the general public yet. The majority of general public at this point probably doesn't even know the name XBox360 or when it is coming out. They should be marketing the crap out of the damn thing because they have Ken Kutaragi from Sony blasting them once a day and they don't even respond. They are already competing against a system that is not coming out for a whole year and they are allowing Sony to do what Sony did to the Dreamcast and talk as much trash as they want to without fighting back.

They need to get the hype machine going or they will have a tough time selling.

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well you obviously didnt hear about the MTV show about the next gen console or read look at any magazines or anything along those lines

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The majority of the worlds' population does not watch MTV. First you need cable/sat which not everyone has, and not every country gets MTV. The show was mostly targeted towards teens who won't have the money to buy the system. And yes I did watch the show, which was rather lame. 25 minutes of random crap and 5 minutes of actual information/gameplay footage about the system.

Besides video game magazines, which obviously mention XBox360, I subscribe to both Time and Newsweek. Both have mentioned the PS3 and cell chip, but I have seen nothing about the XBox360. Even my IEEE newsletter that goes out to engineers mentioned Cell technology. Joe and Jane Average Consumer don't read video game magazines or go online to tech sites or read engineering newsletters. So where do you expect the average person to learn about the system that is coming out in 5 months? MS needs to get on nationally televised channels or something that everyone will see. Show screenshots, movies, or something of launch games during commericals breaks of popular shows. By the time the XBox360 rolls out, I predict that Sony is going to start flinging mud full force. Sony Pictures owns the rights to TV shows and movie studios, all they need to do is start slipping advertisements in and millions of people will see it. MS has billions upon billions in the bank, they should start spending it now because 5 months will go by quickly.

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http://mattmccants.net/media/Xbox360/

i dont like it.

But anyone know if they will have a Oakland raider face plate.

and what do i do with my saved games on my xbox hard drive when i get the 360.

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Thats cool, my guess is that almost every accessory company is bound to produce faceplates and Im sure someone will make a series of Football team themed faceplates.

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The majority of the worlds' population does not watch MTV.  First you need cable/sat which not everyone has, and not every country gets MTV.  The show was mostly targeted towards teens who won't have the money to buy the system.  And yes I did watch the show, which was rather lame.  25 minutes of random crap and 5 minutes of actual information/gameplay footage about the system. 

Besides video game magazines, which obviously mention XBox360, I subscribe to both Time and Newsweek.  Both have mentioned the PS3 and cell chip, but I have seen nothing about the XBox360.  Even my IEEE newsletter that goes out to engineers mentioned Cell technology.  Joe and Jane Average Consumer don't read video game magazines or go online to tech sites or read engineering newsletters.  So where do you expect the average person to learn about the system that is coming out in 5 months?  MS needs to get on nationally televised channels or something that everyone will see.  Show screenshots, movies, or something of launch games during commericals breaks of popular shows.  By the time the XBox360 rolls out, I predict that Sony is going to start flinging mud full force.  Sony Pictures owns the rights to TV shows and movie studios, all they need to do is start slipping advertisements in and millions of people will see it.  MS has billions upon billions in the bank, they should start spending it now because 5 months will go by quickly.

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gotta remeber though think about whose buying, mostly the parents, and parents dont just go " o hey i wanna go drop an arm and a leg on a new system, lets just throw darts to pick one" no its there kids for the most part who tell them want they want from santa or whatever...kids will find out, word of mouth is better than any advertising skeem ever...plus its a few months off...need to have it all finished, heck we dont even have a price or date yet

you dont want to see a commercial that says "buy the 360, it will be out before xmas and will only cost 299-399$$$!!$!$!one !

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@jmole, MS is saving the money to make major spending happen until new shows on TV and when MLB is late in its year, when NFL starts to come on its 5 months why make 100 million last 5 months when it could have it last 3 months . i hate to tell you the Avg. american have cable/sat i dont but i had xbox Mag and the avg us gamer do have a gaming mag. the avg american doesnt read the Times or newsweekly. it was in the LA times.

@Ateoto, i wish they had a black xbox360 so if they made a raider face plate, maybe not since i will want a LA lakers one.

the NFL teams with white on them will look better then other teams

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@jmole, MS is saving the money to make major spending happen until new shows on TV and when MLB is late in its year, when NFL starts to come on its 5 months why make 100 million last 5 months when it could have it last 3 months . i hate to tell you the Avg. american have cable/sat i dont but i had xbox Mag and the avg us gamer do have a gaming mag. the avg american doesnt read the Times or newsweekly. it was in the LA times.

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Jesus, do they still teach grammar in schools? Having some sort of sentence structure really helps when reading.

If MS does what you say and focuses their advertising around American sporting events, that is a pretty dumb decision. Sony owns television shows and movies. All they have to do is slip in a commercial for the PS3 during prime-time TV or a movie trailer and millions of people will see it. Not to mention a variety of people will see it, unlike advertising for American men who like to watch football or baseball.

I just got my August issue of Popular Science magazine in and it has an ad for the PS3 and a full featured article on the cell processor. You think three months is going to be enough time for MS to advertise their system, when Sony is already shoving the PS3 down our throats and talking crap about the XBox360 on a daily basis? This is exactly what they did when the Dreamcast was going to be released and MS is not even doing a damn thing about it.

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you dont want to see a commercial that says "buy the 360, it will be out before xmas and will only cost 299-399$$$!!$!$!one !
No, MS could at least have a commerical that says something like "It's Coming" or "It's Coming This Holiday Season", showing a rapid succession of video clips of games, and then at the end show the Xbox360 logo. Just something to peak people's intrests. MS has billions upon billions of dollars, it's not like they can't afford to run commericals for 5 months. I saw more commericals for Bush and Kerry for 5 months and they only had millions each to spend. Edited by jmole
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ya but kerry and bush had more commercials then most consoles, i havent seen much console commercials most have them like 2-3 and when the console comes out.

why are you going to get the xbox360(eveyone that is going to get 1)

when Sony is already shoving the PS3 down our throats

i will dissagree with that i dont think sony is shoving the PS3 down are throats i havent seen any PS3 commercials and the PS3 information is about the Cells.

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ya but kerry and bush had more commercials then most consoles, i havent seen much console commercials most have them like 2-3 and when the console comes out.

why are you going to get the xbox360(eveyone that is going to get 1)

i will dissagree with that i dont think sony is shoving the PS3 down are throats i havent seen any PS3 commercials and the PS3 information is about the Cells.

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Ken Kutaragi has sounded off the xbox360 many times when giving interviews to Gamespot and Ign,

"Xbox360 is not going after the PS3, infact it is going after the PS2"..... he said something similiar to that that made me think.... what a prick he is... i hope all japs are not like that... i was also reading an artlicle which actually said that M$ isnt popular in jpan becoz the japanses are unwilling to buy a console which is manufactured overseas....

hence why xbox360 may not do too well in japan

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Gfunk4life

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that is sad and i heard that to^^^

and that is why MS is getting games made buy Japs game makers.

Xbox360 is not going after the PS3, infact it is going after the PS2

funny since the xbox is better then the PS2 even the GC is. if anyone is jacking a console it will be PS3.

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i hope all japs are not like that...

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No, not every Japanese person is like Ken Kutaragi anymore than every American is like Michael Jackson. Generalizations of a culture based on one person are not representative. But yeah Ken Kutaragi is a prick :p

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/22/xbox360_peek/

However, Microsoft was more than happy to discuss the power of the machine. Graphics are controlled by a 500MHz ATI graphics chip, and the console is powered by three 2GHz cores. Its 20GB hard drive is removable, so you can attach it to a friend's Xbox 360, almost eliminating the need for memory cards. However, there are two slots for the cards included on the console.

well what happened to 3Ghz cores. They snuck that one in under the wire. Saying 3 was a load of hype at E3 to make to look as good as PS3.

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/22/xbox360_peek/

well what happened to 3Ghz cores. They snuck that one in under the wire. Saying 3 was a load of hype at E3 to make to look as good as PS3.

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Umm, Microsoft said 3Ghz like a week or so before E3, and before anyone knew anything about the PS3. I think that's a typo.

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