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I get your point but its hilarious that you said that because no one except 12 people at microsoft and those 12 are the microsoft UX team have ever seen aero glass. what they likely saw is a demo of the glass theme which is nothing compaired to what aero glass and diamond user experiences will be when longhorn is rtm or anything similar to what those 12 guys are working on right now.  :laugh:

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More than 12 people have seen it ;)

Jim Allchin has personally shown a small handful of people. Not me, to be clear, but some that I know, have talked to, or read blogs of :)

THIS THREAD IS PATHETIC!!! not because you guys are smart enough to figure out how to do this but...WHY THE "F" SHOULD WE HAVE TO TRY TO ENABLE THIS, IT SHOULD BE ENABLED ALREADY!!!!! THIS IS A PREVIEW OF THE "FUTURE WINDOWS". MICROSOFT IS TOY. why does paint and calculator look the same as it did in windows95. im downloading it right now from new binaries. doesnt look exciting, if these effects were default i would truly be jumping up and down in excitement. all microsoft does is piggy back off there old os's. i use to complain about how macs sucked because they made an os that wasnt backwards compatible. damn, at this point i would be willing to lose all compatibility for a fresh new look and experience.

i do realize longhorn is in early stages but we still should see better at this point. not an xp with different graphical elements, toolbars and menus. i know there are also lots of new stuff in the backend, but im not that much of a techy to care about stuff like that. i want visuals microsoft, something that doenst look like windows95 and xp.

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THIS THREAD IS PATHETIC!!! not because you guys are smart enough to figure out how to do this but...WHY THE "F" SHOULD WE HAVE TO TRY TO ENABLE THIS, IT SHOULD BE ENABLED ALREADY!!!!! THIS IS A PREVIEW OF THE "FUTURE WINDOWS". MICROSOFT IS TOY. why does paint and calculator look the same as it did in windows95. im downloading it right now from new binaries. doesnt look exciting, if these effects were default i would truly be jumping up and down in excitement. all microsoft does is piggy back off there old os's. i use to complain about how macs sucked because they made an os that wasnt backwards compatible. damn, at this point i would be willing to lose all compatibility for a fresh new look and experience.

i do realize longhorn is in early stages but we still should see better at this point. not an xp with different graphical elements, toolbars and menus. i know there are also lots of new stuff in the backend, but im not that much of a techy to care about stuff like that. i want visuals microsoft, something that doenst look like windows95 and xp.

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This build was not meant to impress you. What part of that don't you understand?

THIS THREAD IS PATHETIC!!! not because you guys are smart enough to figure out how to do this but...WHY THE "F" SHOULD WE HAVE TO TRY TO ENABLE THIS, IT SHOULD BE ENABLED ALREADY!!!!! THIS IS A PREVIEW OF THE "FUTURE WINDOWS". MICROSOFT IS TOY. why does paint and calculator look the same as it did in windows95. im downloading it right now from new binaries. doesnt look exciting, if these effects were default i would truly be jumping up and down in excitement. all microsoft does is piggy back off there old os's. i use to complain about how macs sucked because they made an os that wasnt backwards compatible. damn, at this point i would be willing to lose all compatibility for a fresh new look and experience.

i do realize longhorn is in early stages but we still should see better at this point. not an xp with different graphical elements, toolbars and menus. i know there are also lots of new stuff in the backend, but im not that much of a techy to care about stuff like that. i want visuals microsoft, something that doenst look like windows95 and xp.

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uhm okay. Step Away from the computer (Y)

WHY THE "F" SHOULD WE HAVE TO TRY TO ENABLE THIS, IT SHOULD BE ENABLED ALREADY!!!!! THIS IS A PREVIEW OF THE "FUTURE WINDOWS". MICROSOFT IS TOY.

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Um, no it doesnt.

this build is not meant to have flashy effects, or full functionality, or anything for that matter, all it is for is testing hardware drivers, that's all.

I'm getting sick of all the people calling it bad, or ugly, it isn't supposed to look nice (which is why they didnt include a good theme), or run great, all it is for is testing drivers, nothing else at all.

i know there are also lots of new stuff in the backend, but im not that much of a techy to care about stuff like that. i want visuals microsoft, something that doenst look like windows95 and xp.

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Step 1: Stop downloading Longhorn

Step 2: Punch yourself in the face a few times

Step 3: Try thinking through before you type out comments

This build is specifically not meant to be visually amazing...this is just something to take up time before beta 1. If you don't care about the backend improvements then you should not even touch Longhorn until at least RC1 ... way to provide us insight with your comments though :pinch: :rolleyes:

this version is not meant to be visually impressive.

yeah right, and you guys will believe that all the way till you go and purchase it and it looks the same as it does right now. whatever, thats not an excuse. the fact is its XP with a new name and added features. it should have been visually impressive from the get go. it would have if it didnt piggy back off xp. its like trying to teach an old dog new tricks. fido is still the same but now he can fetch your morning paper, whoopie do. im sure you guys are sick of me, but it will probaly give you more to type about then the actual improvements from the last build. i will be gone like a troll.

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do you have the slightest knowledge of programming?

it is very easy for microsoft to compile a build without all the graphical features built in, then compile another build with it.

Anyway, you know what this conference was for, hardware developers, not annoying n00bs who dont understand anything about os's. :angry:

this version is not meant to be visually impressive.

yeah right, and you guys will believe that all the way till you go and purchase it and it looks the same as it does right now. whatever, thats not an excuse. the fact is its XP with a new name and added features. it should have been visually impressive from the get go. it would have if it didnt piggy back off xp. its like trying to teach an old dog new tricks. fido is still the same but now he can fetch your morning paper, whoopie do. im sure you guys are sick of me, but it will probaly give you more to type about then the actual improvements from the last build. i will be gone like a troll.

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XP looked the same as 2000 right upto beta2 release and then it had most of the new UI changes which is prob going to happen this time arround. I wouldnt expect a decent build of longhorn till beta2 at least.

This build is for Hardware Vendors to use and abuse to get there hardware support underway with drivers for the exsisting products.

this version is not meant to be visually impressive.

yeah right, and you guys will believe that all the way till you go and purchase it and it looks the same as it does right now. whatever, thats not an excuse. the fact is its XP with a new name and added features. it should have been visually impressive from the get go. it would have if it didnt piggy back off xp. its like trying to teach an old dog new tricks. fido is still the same but now he can fetch your morning paper, whoopie do. im sure you guys are sick of me, but it will probaly give you more to type about then the actual improvements from the last build. i will be gone like a troll.

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I agree with you in some sense but not in every way. With the amount of time it's taken to develope Longhorn one wonders if they wouldn't be better off if they'd just rewritten the OS from scratch. By the end of 2006 the Longhorn project will have been in developement for 5 years give or take. That's a LONG time. With the resources MS has I don't see why they wouldn't be able to do it. There should also be benefits of leaving all the old crap behind and starting totally from scrath. The Win2003 core (which Longhorn is based on) was written like back in 93-94 (I believe) with the release of WinNT 3.5. Wouldn't it be smart to start off fresh with a totally new core, a totally new UI and totally new technologies? Apple did it with MacOSX in less time so why shouldn't MS be able to? Sure, there are ALOT more Windows based computers and alot more different configurations out there but I don't see why it couldn't be done; if there's a will there's a way.
There should also be benefits of leaving all the old crap behind and starting totally from scrath. The Win2003 core (which Longhorn is based on) was written like back in 93-94 (I believe) with the release of WinNT 3.5. Wouldn't it be smart to start off fresh with a totally new core, a totally new UI and totally new technologies? Apple did it with MacOSX in less time so why shouldn't MS be able to?

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Windows NT was leaving all the old crap behind and starting from scratch.

The most recent major revision to the NT kernel and OS came in Windows 2000.

Apple did not start from scratch when building OS X. Mach 3.0 (what powers OS X) was finished in 1994.

One of the original Mach developers, Richard Rashid went to work for Microsoft in 1991 and contributed a great deal to NT's development.

Apple also didn't write most of the userspace code. For that, they looked to FreeBSD. Certainly, they've made significant contributions back to those projects... but to say they started from scratch and developed a new OS in "less time" is ignorant.

A lot of work is being done to the foundational systems of NT in Longhorn. LDDM alone is a huge step, and that's just the beginning.

I personally hope we'll see deep integration of .NET and WinFX, and a move to eliminate some of .NET's lingering dependencies on Win32.

I think what everyone wants to see is something to make everyones JAW DROP!!!

like wow! thats a OS I want to run. I dont know about everyone else but thats what I want to see. I see OSX and I see a great OS. Dont get me wrong XP is nice but doesn't make it GREAT!

I think the GUI has alot to do with the OS. Everyone is saying its not even beta relax bla bla bla. But when xp just came out it looked the same and everyone was saying wait till its in beta you will see the changes. Did anything change nope!! I dont think anything will change in the new OS.

Another thing is alot of people saying...

"Microsoft doesn't care about the GUI the OS is more for work"

but most of the people that use XP are homes.

But hey thats just my 2cents =) :whistle:

then this at beta 2

I think what everyone wants to see is something to make everyones JAW DROP!!!

like wow! thats a OS I want to run. I dont know about everyone else but thats what I want to see. I see OSX and I see a great OS. Dont get me wrong XP is nice but doesn't make it GREAT!

I think the GUI has alot to do with the OS. Everyone is saying its not even beta relax bla bla bla. But when xp just came out it looked the same and everyone was saying wait till its in beta you will see the changes. Did anything change nope!! I dont think anything will change in the new OS.

Another thing is alot of people saying...

"Microsoft doesn't care about the GUI the OS is more for work"

but most of the people that use XP are homes.

But hey thats just my 2cents =) :whistle:

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You've got to be kidding about XP not changing through the dev cycle.

This

to this

to this

then this at beta 2

and then finally, the version of Luna in Windows XP today.

then this at beta 2

You've got to be kidding about XP not changing through the dev cycle.

This

to this

to this

then this at beta 2

and then finally, the version of Luna in Windows XP today.

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Ah those were the days, watercolour.... :p

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