NeoCleaner

[jimbo11883]

Hi jimbo,

Certainly looks interesting. A few things though...

1. When I enable Hide Windows Updates, I'm still seeing a lot of Windows XP Hotfixes in the remove programs list. After sending the output from NeoCleaner through WinMerge, I got the following list of files which WERE removed from the list

Security Update for Windows XP (KB890046)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB893756)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896358)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896422)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896423)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896424)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896426)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB896428)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB899587)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB899588)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB899589)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB899591)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB900725)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB901017)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB901214)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB902400)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB904706)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB905414)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB905495)
Security Update for Windows XP (KB905749)
Update for Windows XP (KB898461)
Windows XP Hotfix - KB893066

A list of what I believe to be Windows Updates which WEREN'T removed are as follows:

Security Update for Windows XP (KB904706)
Windows Genuine Advantage v1.3.0254.0
Windows Installer 3.1 (KB893803)
Windows Installer 3.1 (KB893803)
Windows Media Player Hotfix [See Q828026 for more information]
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q322011
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q324230
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q327979
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q328070
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q329457
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q329909
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) q330512
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q330836
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q810019
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q810032
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q810272
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q811114
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q811789
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) q812415
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q813862
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q814995
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q815411
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q816736
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q816979
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q816982
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q817589
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) [See Q319233 for more information]
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) [See Q323183 for more information]
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) [See Q326119 for more information]
Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) [See Q329692 for more information]
Windows XP Hotfix - KB328237
Windows XP Hotfix - KB810217
Windows XP Hotfix - KB817027
Windows XP Hotfix - KB820128
Windows XP Hotfix - KB820291
Windows XP Hotfix - KB821253
Windows XP Hotfix - KB821588
Windows XP Hotfix - KB823182
Windows XP Hotfix - KB824105
Windows XP Hotfix - KB824141
Windows XP Hotfix - KB825119
Windows XP Hotfix - KB826939
Windows XP Hotfix - KB826942
Windows XP Hotfix - KB826959
Windows XP Hotfix - KB828028
Windows XP Hotfix - KB828035
Windows XP Hotfix - KB828741
Windows XP Hotfix - KB828940
Windows XP Hotfix - KB829637
Windows XP Hotfix - KB831114
Windows XP Hotfix - KB831651
Windows XP Hotfix - KB833407
Windows XP Hotfix - KB833987
Windows XP Hotfix - KB834372
Windows XP Hotfix - KB834709
Windows XP Hotfix - KB835318
Windows XP Hotfix - KB835732
Windows XP Hotfix - KB837001
Windows XP Hotfix - KB837633
Windows XP Hotfix - KB838292
Windows XP Hotfix - KB838884
Windows XP Hotfix - KB838989
Windows XP Hotfix - KB839645
Windows XP Hotfix - KB839876
Windows XP Hotfix - KB840315
Windows XP Hotfix - KB840374
Windows XP Hotfix - KB840987
Windows XP Hotfix - KB841356
Windows XP Hotfix - KB841533
Windows XP Hotfix - KB841873
Windows XP Hotfix - KB842773
Windows XP Hotfix - KB867282
Windows XP Hotfix - KB871250
Windows XP Hotfix - KB873333
Windows XP Hotfix - KB873339
Windows XP Hotfix - KB873376
Windows XP Hotfix - KB883939
Windows XP Hotfix - KB885250
Windows XP Hotfix - KB885835
Windows XP Hotfix - KB885836
Windows XP Hotfix - KB888113
Windows XP Hotfix - KB888302
Windows XP Hotfix - KB889293
Windows XP Hotfix - KB890047
Windows XP Hotfix - KB890175
Windows XP Hotfix - KB890859
Windows XP Hotfix - KB890923
Windows XP Hotfix - KB891711
Windows XP Hotfix - KB891781
Windows XP Hotfix - KB892944
Windows XP Hotfix - KB893086
Windows XP Hotfix - KB896688
Windows XP Hotfix - KB896727
Windows XP Hotfix - KB897715

2. I don't recall reading anywhere in the past 30 pages about how long it took users during the Computer Cleanup analysis part. It takes almost 5 minutes on my laptop (P4/1.6Ghz/512Mb RAM/XP SP1), especially at the "Enumerating files and folders" part.

3. If I did an analysis and cancelled it, and started another analysis subsequently, I still see a "status bar" at the bottom of the progress bar page with values for "Total Results" and "Total Savings". Shouldn't these values only come up once an analysis is done and not while it's being done?

4. In the "Startup Programs" tab, am I supposed to be able to order the lists by clicking on the column titles "Title", "Location", "Path", etc? I'm not able to do this as of yet.

5. I don't have all my startup items listed in the "Startup Programs" list. Using Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel as a point of comparison, the items in his "Startup (common)" and "Startup (user)" tab do not appear in your "Startup Programs" list.

6. When selecting/deselecting items on the "Computer Cleanup" tab, I can click on the name of the item within each sub-section to select or deselect it. However, for the sub-section headers "Windows", "Internet Explorer", etc, I'm having to directly click on the tick box. Shouldn't it be the same for the headers as well as for the items under the header?

7. When I go to your webpage as listed on the very 1st post (http://www.neocleaner.net/), I get the following page:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/ramian/NC.png

It most certainly does not look like a page for NeoCleaner...

And some suggestions...

1. While the icon globe-like icon posted on the boards a few pages back does look nice, it isn't so on my desktop. I'm thinking it's the contrast on the white letters, but it just doesn't seem as clear as the icon posted on the threads. I'm not really good with graphics, so I don't really have any suggestions for you here.

2. When you do get to working on the browsers, I'd really really appreciate it if you could include cookie management for Opera (similar to the IE cookie management in CCleaner).

So far, it looks real good. I'll be playing around with it for a while and will certainly let you know if I find anything else. Oh, I'm using v0.4.0.0.

cheers!

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1st. A note to anyone running a 64-bit Windows OS. NeoCleaner is written in Visual Basic 6, and because of that, will only have partial support for said OS. It cannot access 64-bit files and registry items. NeoCleaner may some day be re-written in VB.Net or C#, and compiled as both 32 and 64 bit binaries. This will happen if I ever can learn .Net. (Might even be XAML and C# for a "Vista Cleaner" version.)

OK, here we go... :)

1. I'm pretty sure I only put partial support in for hiding these based on the actual name of the uninstall description in the registry. I will improve this feature to filter out more updates from the list.

2. Enumerating files and folders can take some time depending on the number of hard drives you have selected to scan and the amount of files/folders on each drive. NeoCleaner will only do the enumeration if needed by a cleaning item, and only run it once. I'm not sure how much more I can optimize it, but I would like to see it run faster than it does now.

3. Good idea with the status bars. I was looking at this myself and thought that it is useless to show it unless the scan is done. Will fix.

4. Sorting in the Startup Programs list has not been implemented yet. Will do.

5. NeoCleaner currently grabs startup items from the registry locations and startup folders for both current and all users. Am I missing something here?

6. This is a limitation of me trying to keep the look of the groupbox text, and using a checkbox with no text. I guess function will have to overcome form here and I'll have to not use groupbox text and go with the checkbox text instead, because a few people have complained.

it appears that the domain neocleaner.net redirects to has expired, im sure jimbo will get that fixed soon enough.

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when you click on "why am I seeing this website?" it opens up an email with the subject,

Inquiring about the domain 'nightiguana.com', with status: Expired

So I guess the site just expired.

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7. I no longer own the nightiguana.com domain, long story. Basically because of lack of funds to support this stuff, the hosting still works though. http://neocleaner.nightiguana.s407.sureserver.com --- it lives...

[ramian]

I will certainly be looking forward to all those improvements. However, like most other people, I'm comparing this to CCleaner as that is, as of now, the best cleaner available. When selecting the same set of options in both programs, CCleaner is able to find more junk to clean in a much shorter time. I'm not too sure how CCleaner is able to scan so much quicker than NeoCleaner, but the bottom line is that it does. I know speed cannot be justified as a sole discriminatory factor between deciding on a junk cleaning program, but it does play an important role. Please try to speed up the scanning process.

I'm sure many people (including me) see lots of potential in this app (and your coding skills), but if you want to compete with the best, you'll need to have something which differentiates yours from, and improves on the best (CCleaner).

Good luck with the coding.

cheers!

[jimbo11883]

I'm not trying to compete with CCleaner, just doing my own thing. Use what you'd like. I don't care. I just have too much spare time on my hands and like to spend it coding.

NeoCleaner has taken a back seat (more like stuffed in the trunk lol) to more important projects, and I'd love to see people contribute code-wise, but as I'm self taught in whatever I do, the code is very messy with no comments, so I think people would be lost. I do the same with people who ask for my services too, so good thing they don't know much about VB or PHP. :p

[Slimy]

I will certainly be looking forward to all those improvements. However, like most other people, I'm comparing this to CCleaner as that is, as of now, the best cleaner available. When selecting the same set of options in both programs, CCleaner is able to find more junk to clean in a much shorter time. I'm not too sure how CCleaner is able to scan so much quicker than NeoCleaner, but the bottom line is that it does. I know speed cannot be justified as a sole discriminatory factor between deciding on a junk cleaning program, but it does play an important role. Please try to speed up the scanning process.

I'm sure many people (including me) see lots of potential in this app (and your coding skills), but if you want to compete with the best, you'll need to have something which differentiates yours from, and improves on the best (CCleaner).

Good luck with the coding.

cheers!

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it's because ccleaner goes to specific directories while neocleaner actually scans. if the directories that ccleaner uses were added, neocleaner would remove more, at the cost of speed.

[jimbo11883]

Well, I did steal directory locations from CCleaners installation files... :p

[dragon2611]

i like neocleaners autoupdater i hate the cccleaner one going to the site every time it tells me there is an update.

keep it up with neocleaner :yes:

if u need to put the site on the mirror when you get yours sorted out feel free to do so.

[Slimy]

Well, I did steal directory locations from CCleaners installation files... :p

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:p i just have a hunch that you didn't include all of them, based on what i see..

[jimbo11883]

:p i just have a hunch that you didn't include all of them, based on what i see..

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Yea... just the ones that were around when I started writing NeoCleaner.

[aero9]

awesome

[Gelob]

*wants more updates*

[jimbo11883]

*needs free time*

[johnporter29]

*needs free time*

If you don't have time, to do this, them PM me if you are willing to let someone else take over the project.

John

[SamNeeds]

Nice work.

[jimbo11883]

NeoCleaner 0.4.0.1 BETA has been released. Here's the short but sweet list of changes. I still need more time to work on my software, but thought I would just put the latest code out.

Changes:

- Improved UI.

- Improved Update Agent.

- New application icon.

- New button icons.

- Moved Update Agent and other settings to a settings window.

- Implemented Ignored Items feature.

- Improved Disk Cleanup Analysis performance.

- Fixed the DeleteFolder function, which sometimes returned true when the folder could not be deleted.

- Fixed Reset All Settings button.

- Fixed random runtime error #5.

- Fixed startup programs showing all programs startup folder entries.

[Gelob]

lolnice!!!!!!!!!!

when does it become .NET?

[jimbo11883]

NeoCleaner will be converted for Vista with a fresh code base when Vista reaches RC status... :)

[SoulDevil]

Errors iv found:

1) While clicking help nothing happened

2) While in the advanced menu I clicked the "Unload Windows Explorer before cleaning" option and when I go to clean NeoCleaner just shuts down with no error.

3) When I click apply in the settings window NeoCleaner resizes itself even though iv got the "Save Window Size/Position" option.

[jimbo11883]

Errors iv found:

1) While clicking help nothing happened

2) While in the advanced menu I clicked the "Unload Windows Explorer before cleaning" option and when I go to clean NeoCleaner just shuts down with no error.

3) When I click apply in the settings window NeoCleaner resizes itself even though iv got the "Save Window Size/Position" option.

1. There is no help documentation yet, so the help function does not work.

2. I'll look into this when I have the time.

3. This is a known bug. It will be fixed.

[Slimy]

Good to see you're back jimbo! I'll try the latest build when I get home.

[Shof]

whats the differences between this and crap cleaner?

[SmokeDog]

None of the links work for me... :ermm:

[Daninku]

WELCOME BACK JIMBO :D

I guess I have to post more bugs then lol

None of the links work for me... :ermm:

Mine works, visit the website and Download it from there.

[illicit]

None of the links work for me... :ermm:

Heh, it works fine for me.

[Bawx]

Site down?

[Jiaoziren]

Awesome tool! I'm wondering remove my CCleaner after the registry clean up module was added. :whistle: