jimbo11883 Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Hi jimbo,Certainly looks interesting. A few things though... 1. When I enable Hide Windows Updates, I'm still seeing a lot of Windows XP Hotfixes in the remove programs list. After sending the output from NeoCleaner through WinMerge, I got the following list of files which WERE removed from the list Security Update for Windows XP (KB890046) Security Update for Windows XP (KB893756) Security Update for Windows XP (KB896358) Security Update for Windows XP (KB896422) Security Update for Windows XP (KB896423) Security Update for Windows XP (KB896424) Security Update for Windows XP (KB896426) Security Update for Windows XP (KB896428) Security Update for Windows XP (KB899587) Security Update for Windows XP (KB899588) Security Update for Windows XP (KB899589) Security Update for Windows XP (KB899591) Security Update for Windows XP (KB900725) Security Update for Windows XP (KB901017) Security Update for Windows XP (KB901214) Security Update for Windows XP (KB902400) Security Update for Windows XP (KB904706) Security Update for Windows XP (KB905414) Security Update for Windows XP (KB905495) Security Update for Windows XP (KB905749) Update for Windows XP (KB898461) Windows XP Hotfix - KB893066 A list of what I believe to be Windows Updates which WEREN'T removed are as follows: Security Update for Windows XP (KB904706) Windows Genuine Advantage v1.3.0254.0 Windows Installer 3.1 (KB893803) Windows Installer 3.1 (KB893803) Windows Media Player Hotfix [See Q828026 for more information] Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q322011 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q324230 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q327979 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q328070 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q329457 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q329909 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) q330512 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q330836 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q810019 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q810032 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q810272 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q811114 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q811789 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) q812415 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q813862 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q814995 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q815411 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q816736 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q816979 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q816982 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) Q817589 Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) [See Q319233 for more information] Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) [See Q323183 for more information] Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) [See Q326119 for more information] Windows XP Hotfix (SP2) [See Q329692 for more information] Windows XP Hotfix - KB328237 Windows XP Hotfix - KB810217 Windows XP Hotfix - KB817027 Windows XP Hotfix - KB820128 Windows XP Hotfix - KB820291 Windows XP Hotfix - KB821253 Windows XP Hotfix - KB821588 Windows XP Hotfix - KB823182 Windows XP Hotfix - KB824105 Windows XP Hotfix - KB824141 Windows XP Hotfix - KB825119 Windows XP Hotfix - KB826939 Windows XP Hotfix - KB826942 Windows XP Hotfix - KB826959 Windows XP Hotfix - KB828028 Windows XP Hotfix - KB828035 Windows XP Hotfix - KB828741 Windows XP Hotfix - KB828940 Windows XP Hotfix - KB829637 Windows XP Hotfix - KB831114 Windows XP Hotfix - KB831651 Windows XP Hotfix - KB833407 Windows XP Hotfix - KB833987 Windows XP Hotfix - KB834372 Windows XP Hotfix - KB834709 Windows XP Hotfix - KB835318 Windows XP Hotfix - KB835732 Windows XP Hotfix - KB837001 Windows XP Hotfix - KB837633 Windows XP Hotfix - KB838292 Windows XP Hotfix - KB838884 Windows XP Hotfix - KB838989 Windows XP Hotfix - KB839645 Windows XP Hotfix - KB839876 Windows XP Hotfix - KB840315 Windows XP Hotfix - KB840374 Windows XP Hotfix - KB840987 Windows XP Hotfix - KB841356 Windows XP Hotfix - KB841533 Windows XP Hotfix - KB841873 Windows XP Hotfix - KB842773 Windows XP Hotfix - KB867282 Windows XP Hotfix - KB871250 Windows XP Hotfix - KB873333 Windows XP Hotfix - KB873339 Windows XP Hotfix - KB873376 Windows XP Hotfix - KB883939 Windows XP Hotfix - KB885250 Windows XP Hotfix - KB885835 Windows XP Hotfix - KB885836 Windows XP Hotfix - KB888113 Windows XP Hotfix - KB888302 Windows XP Hotfix - KB889293 Windows XP Hotfix - KB890047 Windows XP Hotfix - KB890175 Windows XP Hotfix - KB890859 Windows XP Hotfix - KB890923 Windows XP Hotfix - KB891711 Windows XP Hotfix - KB891781 Windows XP Hotfix - KB892944 Windows XP Hotfix - KB893086 Windows XP Hotfix - KB896688 Windows XP Hotfix - KB896727 Windows XP Hotfix - KB897715 2. I don't recall reading anywhere in the past 30 pages about how long it took users during the Computer Cleanup analysis part. It takes almost 5 minutes on my laptop (P4/1.6Ghz/512Mb RAM/XP SP1), especially at the "Enumerating files and folders" part. 3. If I did an analysis and cancelled it, and started another analysis subsequently, I still see a "status bar" at the bottom of the progress bar page with values for "Total Results" and "Total Savings". Shouldn't these values only come up once an analysis is done and not while it's being done? 4. In the "Startup Programs" tab, am I supposed to be able to order the lists by clicking on the column titles "Title", "Location", "Path", etc? I'm not able to do this as of yet. 5. I don't have all my startup items listed in the "Startup Programs" list. Using Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel as a point of comparison, the items in his "Startup (common)" and "Startup (user)" tab do not appear in your "Startup Programs" list. 6. When selecting/deselecting items on the "Computer Cleanup" tab, I can click on the name of the item within each sub-section to select or deselect it. However, for the sub-section headers "Windows", "Internet Explorer", etc, I'm having to directly click on the tick box. Shouldn't it be the same for the headers as well as for the items under the header? 7. When I go to your webpage as listed on the very 1st post (http://www.neocleaner.net/), I get the following page: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/ramian/NC.png It most certainly does not look like a page for NeoCleaner... And some suggestions... 1. While the icon globe-like icon posted on the boards a few pages back does look nice, it isn't so on my desktop. I'm thinking it's the contrast on the white letters, but it just doesn't seem as clear as the icon posted on the threads. I'm not really good with graphics, so I don't really have any suggestions for you here. 2. When you do get to working on the browsers, I'd really really appreciate it if you could include cookie management for Opera (similar to the IE cookie management in CCleaner). So far, it looks real good. I'll be playing around with it for a while and will certainly let you know if I find anything else. Oh, I'm using v0.4.0.0. cheers! 586805342[/snapback] 1st. A note to anyone running a 64-bit Windows OS. NeoCleaner is written in Visual Basic 6, and because of that, will only have partial support for said OS. It cannot access 64-bit files and registry items. NeoCleaner may some day be re-written in VB.Net or C#, and compiled as both 32 and 64 bit binaries. This will happen if I ever can learn .Net. (Might even be XAML and C# for a "Vista Cleaner" version.) OK, here we go... :) 1. I'm pretty sure I only put partial support in for hiding these based on the actual name of the uninstall description in the registry. I will improve this feature to filter out more updates from the list. 2. Enumerating files and folders can take some time depending on the number of hard drives you have selected to scan and the amount of files/folders on each drive. NeoCleaner will only do the enumeration if needed by a cleaning item, and only run it once. I'm not sure how much more I can optimize it, but I would like to see it run faster than it does now. 3. Good idea with the status bars. I was looking at this myself and thought that it is useless to show it unless the scan is done. Will fix. 4. Sorting in the Startup Programs list has not been implemented yet. Will do. 5. NeoCleaner currently grabs startup items from the registry locations and startup folders for both current and all users. Am I missing something here? 6. This is a limitation of me trying to keep the look of the groupbox text, and using a checkbox with no text. I guess function will have to overcome form here and I'll have to not use groupbox text and go with the checkbox text instead, because a few people have complained. it appears that the domain neocleaner.net redirects to has expired, im sure jimbo will get that fixed soon enough. 586805597[/snapback] when you click on "why am I seeing this website?" it opens up an email with the subject,Inquiring about the domain 'nightiguana.com', with status: Expired So I guess the site just expired. 586806005[/snapback] 7. I no longer own the nightiguana.com domain, long story. Basically because of lack of funds to support this stuff, the hosting still works though. http://neocleaner.nightiguana.s407.sureserver.com --- it lives... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-586806355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramian Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 I will certainly be looking forward to all those improvements. However, like most other people, I'm comparing this to CCleaner as that is, as of now, the best cleaner available. When selecting the same set of options in both programs, CCleaner is able to find more junk to clean in a much shorter time. I'm not too sure how CCleaner is able to scan so much quicker than NeoCleaner, but the bottom line is that it does. I know speed cannot be justified as a sole discriminatory factor between deciding on a junk cleaning program, but it does play an important role. Please try to speed up the scanning process. I'm sure many people (including me) see lots of potential in this app (and your coding skills), but if you want to compete with the best, you'll need to have something which differentiates yours from, and improves on the best (CCleaner). Good luck with the coding. cheers! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-586811590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo11883 Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 I'm not trying to compete with CCleaner, just doing my own thing. Use what you'd like. I don't care. I just have too much spare time on my hands and like to spend it coding. NeoCleaner has taken a back seat (more like stuffed in the trunk lol) to more important projects, and I'd love to see people contribute code-wise, but as I'm self taught in whatever I do, the code is very messy with no comments, so I think people would be lost. I do the same with people who ask for my services too, so good thing they don't know much about VB or PHP. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-586811763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 I will certainly be looking forward to all those improvements. However, like most other people, I'm comparing this to CCleaner as that is, as of now, the best cleaner available. When selecting the same set of options in both programs, CCleaner is able to find more junk to clean in a much shorter time. I'm not too sure how CCleaner is able to scan so much quicker than NeoCleaner, but the bottom line is that it does. I know speed cannot be justified as a sole discriminatory factor between deciding on a junk cleaning program, but it does play an important role. Please try to speed up the scanning process. I'm sure many people (including me) see lots of potential in this app (and your coding skills), but if you want to compete with the best, you'll need to have something which differentiates yours from, and improves on the best (CCleaner). Good luck with the coding. cheers! 586811590[/snapback] it's because ccleaner goes to specific directories while neocleaner actually scans. if the directories that ccleaner uses were added, neocleaner would remove more, at the cost of speed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-586811803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo11883 Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 Well, I did steal directory locations from CCleaners installation files... :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-586812329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon2611 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 i like neocleaners autoupdater i hate the cccleaner one going to the site every time it tells me there is an update. keep it up with neocleaner :yes: if u need to put the site on the mirror when you get yours sorted out feel free to do so. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-586812447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Well, I did steal directory locations from CCleaners installation files... :p 586812329[/snapback] :p i just have a hunch that you didn't include all of them, based on what i see.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-586813145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo11883 Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 :p i just have a hunch that you didn't include all of them, based on what i see.. 586813145[/snapback] Yea... just the ones that were around when I started writing NeoCleaner. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-586813598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aero9 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 awesome Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587191006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelob Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 *wants more updates* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587223654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo11883 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 *needs free time* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587223668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnporter29 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 *needs free time* If you don't have time, to do this, them PM me if you are willing to let someone else take over the project. John Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587317397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamNeeds Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Nice work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587327327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo11883 Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 NeoCleaner 0.4.0.1 BETA has been released. Here's the short but sweet list of changes. I still need more time to work on my software, but thought I would just put the latest code out. Changes: - Improved UI. - Improved Update Agent. - New application icon. - New button icons. - Moved Update Agent and other settings to a settings window. - Implemented Ignored Items feature. - Improved Disk Cleanup Analysis performance. - Fixed the DeleteFolder function, which sometimes returned true when the folder could not be deleted. - Fixed Reset All Settings button. - Fixed random runtime error #5. - Fixed startup programs showing all programs startup folder entries. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587408936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelob Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 lolnice!!!!!!!!!! when does it become .NET? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587409084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo11883 Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 NeoCleaner will be converted for Vista with a fresh code base when Vista reaches RC status... :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587409092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulDevil Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Errors iv found: 1) While clicking help nothing happened 2) While in the advanced menu I clicked the "Unload Windows Explorer before cleaning" option and when I go to clean NeoCleaner just shuts down with no error. 3) When I click apply in the settings window NeoCleaner resizes itself even though iv got the "Save Window Size/Position" option. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587409295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo11883 Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 Errors iv found: 1) While clicking help nothing happened 2) While in the advanced menu I clicked the "Unload Windows Explorer before cleaning" option and when I go to clean NeoCleaner just shuts down with no error. 3) When I click apply in the settings window NeoCleaner resizes itself even though iv got the "Save Window Size/Position" option. 1. There is no help documentation yet, so the help function does not work. 2. I'll look into this when I have the time. 3. This is a known bug. It will be fixed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587409307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Good to see you're back jimbo! I'll try the latest build when I get home. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587409451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shof Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 whats the differences between this and crap cleaner? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587461494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeDog Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 None of the links work for me... :ermm: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587532668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninku Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 WELCOME BACK JIMBO :D I guess I have to post more bugs then lol None of the links work for me... :ermm: Mine works, visit the website and Download it from there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587532688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
illicit Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 None of the links work for me... :ermm: Heh, it works fine for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587535900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawx Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Site down? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587567428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiaoziren Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Awesome tool! I'm wondering remove my CCleaner after the registry clean up module was added. :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/323477-neocleaner/page/19/#findComment-587569306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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