Valkyrie Beta 1 Released!

[Plastique]

holy crap it is huge!

looks decent, but I don't feel like sacrificing 25% of my screen to it.

[Tsumana]

You know, it doesn't seem so big when you scale it down to 75%, anyway, looking forward to future releases of this one. (Y)

[The Jorge]

What I'd like to know is what resolution are the people saying it's huge using? I honestly don't see how its so big. :dontgetit:

I mean sure its bigger than Winamp Classic skins, but it is definetly smaller than the default Winamp Modern skin. :|

[sachleen]

wow, looks nice

[-scorpio-]

What I'd like to know is what resolution are the people saying it's huge using? I honestly don't see how its so big. :dontgetit:

I mean sure its bigger than Winamp Classic skins, but it is definetly smaller than the default Winamp Modern skin. :|

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yup they want it even smaller than classic skins!

[Veedems Veteran]

yup they want it even smaller than classic skins!

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I don't, but there's a reason I don't use the default modern skin either. I'm running at 1280*1024 and it's just too much for me. Of course, that doesn't take away my appreciation for the craftsmenship put into it.

[undu]

What I'd like to know is what resolution are the people saying it's huge using? I honestly don't see how its so big. :dontgetit:

I mean sure its bigger than Winamp Classic skins, but it is definetly smaller than the default Winamp Modern skin. :|

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too big for the information it displays... =P

[TommyBoy]

Wheres the dl link?

[Kane]

What I'd like to know is what resolution are the people saying it's huge using? I honestly don't see how its so big. :dontgetit:

I mean sure its bigger than Winamp Classic skins, but it is definetly smaller than the default Winamp Modern skin. :|

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The chunky borders and big buttons make it *seem* big. But the big buttons are part of the design arn't they?

Hope that isn't offensive to your work in some way, you've done a good job. Just some advice :).

[The Jorge]

I guess the large control buttons do make it seem a bit big but I thought people were referring to the size of the player itself. Now I understand what was meant by the skin being 'big'. This was done on purpose. I was trying to make something that would look like it could actually exist in the real world (maybe even compete against the iPod). :p

Thanks for the feedback guys. I hope I can improve on my UI design a bit more for my next skin. :happy:

[troGGers]

That looks awesome...dling now and implementing. :D

EDIT: Any chance of a window shade mode??

[Plastique]

What I'd like to know is what resolution are the people saying it's huge using? I honestly don't see how its so big. :dontgetit:

I mean sure its bigger than Winamp Classic skins, but it is definetly smaller than the default Winamp Modern skin. :|

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and look at just how much is placed on the classic and default modern skin.

So far this just has the basic C-buttons, a display, and shuf/rep modes.

where are the buttons for the playlist, eq, and media library? Hell, where is the stop button? What about the open button? The volume bar is dinky , and the next and prev buttons are just awkwardly placed. Verticle? Why? Are you trying to confuse everyone?

Is there a balance bar somewhere?

I only see two buttons on top. The options should be minimize, close, and winshade (stick mode). Is this going to have a winshade mode button (or will we double click)? Is there even going to be a winshade mode. How do you plan on keeping the winshade mode small while keeping the "oversized" look of the skin?

Are the borders for the playlist and EQ and ML going to be just as huge? (edit, looked at screenshot in first post, apparently so)

The reason it looks big is because

a) it is big

b) it has a lot of empty space.

I don't really see how this took "two years" to make

Edited July 9, 2005 by Plastique

[AionXn_]

very nice :D

[The Jorge]

where are the buttons for the playlist, eq, and media library?  Hell, where is the stop button?  What about the open button?  The volume bar is dinky , and the next and prev buttons are just awkwardly placed.  Verticle?  Why?  Are you trying to confuse everyone?

I already answered the question about the buttons for the playlist, eq and media library here. The pause button will turn into the stop button when the user leaves their mouse over it for ~3 seconds (Beta 2). I rarely to never use the open button which is the main reason why I havent added it in but I will look into adding it somewhere. If you re-read my first post, you'd know the reason behind the vertical next and prev buttons.

Is there a balance bar somewhere?

It will be included in the EQ for Beta 2.

I only see two buttons on top.  The options should be minimize, close, and winshade (stick mode).  Is this going to have a winshade mode button (or will we double click)?  Is there even going to be a winshade mode.  How do you plan on keeping the winshade mode small while keeping the "oversized" look of the skin?

Seriously, how many times must I say this. This skin will have a winshade mode, as well as a 'compact' mode and a 'shuffle' mode (see Avalon's Shuffle Mode).

I don't really see how this took "two years" to make

Who exactly are you quoting when you say "two years"? I've never said I've been working on it for 2 years. What I did say is I've been working on this skin since December 2004. That's 7 months if you count July (which we're still in the first full week of). This skin has been through about 4-5 redesigns.

I can't stress it enough that this skin is a beta. Not all of the features/functionality that the skin will include have been implemented yet. Anything else? :blink:

[Veedems Veteran]

wow talk about a needless attack. Ignore the detractors man and keep doing what you love. A lot of people are loving the products of what you love.

[eccofresh]

very nice work. I have to download Winamp5 now though. I was still using 2.9x

[Jexxster]

Great skin. I even dusted off old Winamp 5 to use this bad boy. Very nice.

[NeoXY]

man...great stuff man.....

btw...when is Beta 2?....wanna drop us a hint?..:D..;)

[Groovedude]

damn thats fine. :) my gosh this is one of the most visualy nice things ive seen in a while :) Well done. (Y) keep it up.

*p.s* it would make a nice theme ;)

[Undefineed]

bro who cares about some of the tards on here...who think they could do a better job with the amount of time you've spent on it :).

ah just one criticism, if i may say, is i get this wonderful lil error:

Any ideas why i get that? also, if i close and open it again, there is no error :s...its totally random.

[Plastique]

I already answered the question about the buttons for the playlist, eq and media library here. The pause button will turn into the stop button when the user leaves their mouse over it for ~3 seconds (Beta 2). I rarely to never use the open button which is the main reason why I havent added it in but I will look into adding it somewhere. If you re-read my first post, you'd know the reason behind the vertical next and prev buttons.

It will be included in the EQ for Beta 2.

but the design for the prev/next buttons, while unique, are still...awkward.

also, will the amount of time that the mouse has to hover in order for the button to be "stop" be customizable?

Seriously, how many times must I say this. This skin will have a winshade mode, as well as a 'compact' mode and a 'shuffle' mode (see Avalon's Shuffle Mode).

the issue isn't so much on whether or not the skin will have these mods, but it's how true to form these modes will be. Compacting the graphics you currently have into a smaller package will look (imho) either forced or like a different skin.

Who exactly are you quoting when you say "two years"? I've never said I've been working on it for 2 years. What I did say is I've been working on this skin since December 2004. That's 7 months if you count July (which we're still in the first full week of). This skin has been through about 4-5 redesigns.

I must be thinking of a different skin. I admit I was wrong here.

I can't stress it enough that this skin is a beta. Not all of the features/functionality that the skin will include have been implemented yet. Anything else? :blink:

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The only thing that is "else" is that I have Avalon used it extensivly for a long while, which is why I was so disapointed by this skin. It feels more like someone's first skin with the large buttons and apparent lack of features.

[toastyghost]

I think the unique previous and next buttons work brilliantly. I like to have them peeking out from under the right edge of my browser window, where I can access them quickly and easily. It definitely seems logical to me, since those buttons move the selection up and down the playlist.

Also, The skin is only about 1.5 times larger than my usual Winamp Classic skins, and more than endurable. For a more compact mode, all that needs to be done is dropping the screen off to leave the buttons, albeit smaller. For winshade, I'd quite like to see a vertical 'stick'.

This skin looks great, and more importantly, has a similar design to a portable MP3 player. Simple and intuitive buttons, large and readable display, and a sleek look. Its more than usable in its current stage, and the additions of colour schemes and other modes are just a bonus.

[fahmi_r]

oh my god!!!

its like the best skin ever man. :D

[Freedom Phantom]

:) Great Skin.Though I still always use Avalon ;)

[Matt]

i would like to know if anyone could send me this skin. i reformatted a couple of weeks ago and since kgraphik's site has been down for awhile i cant download it.

and yes, i have PMed him. it's been over a week with no response so i decided to revive the thread.