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Originally posted by Wickedkitten

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/6469.shtml

there you go

oh wait and heres screenies of warcraft 3 for the mac

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/9226.shtml

and jedi knight 2 for the mac

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/9955.shtml

and soldier of fortune 2 for the mac

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/9961.shtml

and star wars galactic battlegrounds for the mac

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/9759.shtml

If it wasn't for the fact that gta3 prolly wont be released for the mac I would have stopped using the pc ages ago.

The myth that pcs are better for gaming is about to change. The only reason that was ever true is because software companies have never taken the mac seriously when it comes to gaming but with osx its definately about to change.

Originally posted by Wickedkitten

oh wait and heres screenies of warcraft 3 for the mac

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/9226.shtml

and jedi knight 2 for the mac

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/9955.shtml

and soldier of fortune 2 for the mac

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/9961.shtml

and star wars galactic battlegrounds for the mac

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screensh...hots/9759.shtml

If it wasn't for the fact that gta3 prolly wont be released for the mac I would have stopped using the pc ages ago.

The myth that pcs are better for gaming is about to change. The only reason that was ever true is because software companies have never taken the mac seriously when it comes to gaming but with osx its definately about to change.

So...4 titles makes a gaming platform these days? Neato. Guess I should go look for a Sega Saturn then. ;)

I just wanted to drop a few things:

Yes games made with the Quake engines in cooperation with ID Software always come out for the Mac.

Also games like Quake 3 and RTCW aren't the greatest games nowadays, so saying they run well on your system isn't saying much, I get like 130 fps on Quake 3 with my setup and it's not top of the line.

Originally posted by azazel-

So...4 titles makes a gaming platform these days? Neato. Guess I should go look for a Sega Saturn then. ;)

uh no, those are called examples (wonders why people persist in making theirselves look like idiots on neowin)

if you want a comprehensive list look here

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screenshots/

Originally posted by Wickedkitten

uh no, those are called examples (wonders why people persist in making theirselves look like idiots on neowin)

if you want a comprehensive list look here

http://www.macgold.co.uk/magazine/screenshots/

Uh...already glanced on there, thanks. A lot of old titles. Neato. Sure they'll look really swell. I'll run right out and blow $3k on a Mac. Hear me running? Wait...here I go. (wonders why people persist on making themselves out to be more than they are on neowin)

And why is it that seemingly everyone that uses nice little animal names is typically neither nice or little? :right:

Originally posted by azazel-

Uh...already glanced on there, thanks. A lot of old titles. Neato. Sure they'll look really swell. I'll run right out and blow $3k on a Mac. Hear me running? Wait...here I go. (wonders why people persist on making themselves out to be more than they are on neowin)

And why is it that seemingly everyone that uses nice little animal names is typically neither nice or little? :right:

I'm oh so sorry, funny but I don't remember anyone ever telling you to go out and buy a mac.

BTW you can get a mac for a lot less than 3k genius.

If you are going to argue and not even answer my question why reply in the first place?

Also games like Quake 3 and RTCW aren't the greatest games nowadays, so saying they run well on your system isn't saying much, I get like 130 fps on Quake 3 with my setup and it's not top of the line.

What do u consider to be a top of the line game? Also i dont want to go out and buy a 2000-3000 dollar system to be able to play a game. Alienware.com is cool, i went there and customized a top of the line system (AMD 2200 XP, 512 DDR, GFti4600) for less than $1800.

Originally posted by azazel-

Uh...already glanced on there, thanks. A lot of old titles. Neato. Sure they'll look really swell. I'll run right out and blow $3k on a Mac. Hear me running? Wait...here I go. (wonders why people persist on making themselves out to be more than they are on neowin)

And why is it that seemingly everyone that uses nice little animal names is typically neither nice or little? :right:

Yeah I was stupid like you....a few years ago. I thought Macs sucked yadda yadda. Pretty much the same reasons that half the know-nothing pc users on here quote. "Oh they're too expensive" "They don't have as much software, especially games" "They are slower" "Mac sucks...heh heh"

Yeah too bad none of that is true. Maybe if you would actually try to use a Mac or knew anything about them, you'd look a little smarter. Hell I did....thats why i sold my pc and switched to mac.

Originally posted by man4theladys

If you are going to argue and not even answer my question why reply in the first place?

What do u consider to be a top of the line game? Also i dont want to go out and buy a 2000-3000 dollar system to be able to play a game. Alienware.com is cool, i went there and customized a top of the line system (AMD 2200 XP, 512 DDR, GFti4600) for less than $1800.

Where are you guys getting these prices? 2000-3000 dollars? Try 1300 for a Powermac at MacMall.com. Like I said, before you make yourselves look stupid, learn a little first

Originally posted by man4theladys

If you are going to argue and not even answer my question why reply in the first place?

What do u consider to be a top of the line game? Also i dont want to go out and buy a 2000-3000 dollar system to be able to play a game. Alienware.com is cool, i went there and customized a top of the line system (AMD 2200 XP, 512 DDR, GFti4600) for less than $1800.

hate to tell you bud but thats not a top of the line system lol. I paid about 1300 more for my alienware system than my fiance paid for his g4 cube + 15 in lcd display.

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/05..._aeshowdown.htm

thats the link for a AMD dual system vs a G4 dual system... the amd system isnt top of the link cpu's and the mac system is..

i'm not saying the mac is bad but it does get beat by the AMD..

me personally i am gonna stick with pc for quite a time to come because of the widespread ness.. i can always depend on microsoft to have something there for me.. like lets say i wanna play a game or something out of the blue, i can run over to the store and buy it.. well. not that simple.. get my mom, take me there blah blah blah

but also with pc in the gaming matter, i can also configure them eaiser imo. if i want to host something its just a matter of point and click..

if thats not comprehendable, i don't like the single mouse thing.. just too used to three buttons.. i dont' know maybe i'm crazy

so, getting back on topic. If your dad needs reasons as to why you need a mac tell him that you wont have to upgrade for a couple of years with a mac, you don't have to worry about people hacking into the computer and deleting his files (trust me this always works on a parent, and he won't have to worry about virii or security updates.

If he brings up the issue of not enough software tell him there's a mac equivalent for everything (and before any lamers jump in about the lack of software on a mac I have argued guys older and wiser than you down in the battlefront in arstechnica and c.s.m.a when it comes to pc software that has a mac counterpart)

If he brings up gaming tell him you can keep the pc to play the games that aren't out for mac yet.

If all else fails make puppy eyes at him and say "I wuv you daddikins" :D

hate to tell you bud but thats not a top of the line system lol. I paid about 1300 more for my alienware system than my fiance paid for his g4 cube + 15 in lcd display.
so wut IS a top of the line system in your opinion?
Where are you guys getting these prices? 2000-3000 dollars? Try 1300 for a Powermac at MacMall.com. Like I said, before you make yourselves look stupid, learn a little first

2000-3000 for pc, not mac. before u make yourself look stupid, comprehend wut you are reading.

Originally posted by man4theladys

so wut IS a top of the line system in your opinion?

2000-3000 for pc, not mac. before u make yourself look stupid, comprehend wut you are reading.

Learn how to write then. We were talking about prices and playing games on the Mac...not prices on pcs. Try to stay on topic.

Top of the line would be anything Intel, at least 1 gig of ram, etc.

Originally posted by superfula

Learn how to write then. We were talking about prices and playing games on the Mac...not prices on pcs. Try to stay on topic.

Top of the line would be anything Intel, at least 1 gig of ram, etc.

so in your eyes anything amd isn't top of the line? not flaming.. just wanted to clear this.. lol :p

Originally posted by man4theladys

so wut IS a top of the line system in your opinion?

Case: Dragon Full-Tower Case (340-Watt PS) (Conspiracy Blue)

Power Supply: Enermax EG651P-VE 550 Watt Power Supply

Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Processor 266Mhz FSB

Memory: 1GB Corsair XMS DDR SDRAM

Hard Drive One: 80GB Western Digital UltraATA 7200RPM 8MB Cache

Hard Drive Two: 80GB Western Digital UltraATA 7200RPM 8MB Cache

Optical Drive One: PlexCombo 20/10/40-12A CD-RW/DVD-ROM - IDE - Black

Video Card: NVIDIA? GeForce4 Ti 4200 w/64MB Dual Monitor

Video Cooling: KoolMaxx Video Cooling System (Standard Chrome)

Sound Card: SoundBlaster Audigy 5.1 Platinum

Ethernet NIC: Intel? PRO/1000 Copper Gigabit Desktop Adapter

Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 4.1 400-Watt THX Speakers (Space Black)

Keyboard: 107-Enhanced Windows Keyboard (Conspiracy Blue)

Mouse: Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer USB (Conspiracy Blue)

Power Protection: Powerware 3110 600VA 400-Watt UPS

Operating System: Microsoft? Windows? XP Professional

Automated Support: AlienAutopsy

Warranty: Aliencare Toll-Free 2-Year 24/7 ONSITE Warranty

Subtotal:

$ 3,240.00

Originally posted by superfula

Where are you guys getting these prices? 2000-3000 dollars? Try 1300 for a Powermac at MacMall.com. Like I said, before you make yourselves look stupid, learn a little first

Learn how to write then. We were talking about prices and playing games on the Mac...not prices on pcs. Try to stay on topic.

*SIGH*

Why is Another Mac user trying to act Holier than thou attitude?

I hate that kind of attitude about Mac Users more than the MAC itself !!! :right:

I will NEVER switch to MAC, as long as most of the Mac Users have UGLY Attitudes like this. I want to be a part of a proud team, not a whiny team that all they do is complaining about PCs and telling PC users they are stupid.

You hardly see a PC user do that, you know why don't a PC user telling Mac users PCs are better? Because we DON'T have to!!! The truth couldn't be more clear...

There is NOTHING more holier about your Mac than a PC, if anything, it's the Complete opposite.

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