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I love Trivium, but I feel the same way about The Crusade, it will probably fail. I hate the fact that Matt Heafy doesn't scream live now, or at least at Download he didn't.

I agree that the screaming is a much needed thing in Trivium to be honest. Or at least with the old songs. They don't sound right sung normally when they were originally screaming.

Do you know what Trivium played at Download by any chance?

I know they played Rain, Suffocating Sight, Pull Harder On The Strings Of Your Martyr, Likie Light To Flies, and Detonation (New Song). Other than that I don't know, if you go over to http://www.triviumworld.com, you can see the video of songs I know they played and they may have even added more. And let me correct myself from earlier, when I said Download, I meant Rock am Ring.

The new Bewteen the buried and me album is out tomorrow in europe The anatomy of i'm getting me a preview, I forgot about this album but they have recorded it quite quickly.

Also went out and bought As I lay dying - A long march CD, so I can complete all the CD's I own of them. Great band.

As I lay dying, are the kings of metalcore, not my favorite genre of metal but they do rock.

To be honest i don't mind them. They are the better metalcore bands out there.

I know alot of people bash metalcore but thats the emo kinds :rofl: and gay screamo.

Not the biggest fan of metalcore but i don't mind bands like Chimaira, As I Lay Dying, Unearth, God Forbid.

The album is brilliant, not as good as some stuff i've been listening to recently like, Job for a cowboy or grave also the new Deadsoil album is good as well.

Heard the new Trivium song, it's rubbish, I really think The crusade will flop to be honest don't know if anyone can agree with me, but their 30 minutes of fame will fall really quickly if this album doesn't sell as much as acendancy did, and it won't I know it won't. I think they we're pushed too hard for their third release.

New lamb of god album Sacrament should be good stuff it's been two years. But what i'm really looking forward to is the new as yet untitled haunted album coming october/december time.

Haven't heard the newest Grave yet but their last one was good. Soulless is an absolute must from them though.

I'm digging The Sword quite a bit right now. They really cover a lot of territory on their latest. There's some Grind, Doom, Stoner, & Thrash moments in all the songs they're quite excellent.

Also for a Power/Prog/Thrash vibe the latest Eidolon Paralell Otherworld is a must. Glenn Drover is amazing as already proved with Megadeth & King Diamond. His brother is also a great drummer and equally shines on this new one.

I know this probably isnt the right place. But tell me what you think of this metal band:

http://myspace.com/morterra

there myspace page says there meta/death metal/ and thrash

Ahaaaa Nice!

They look cool, sound cool, and one dude is wearing a bodom top! (Y)

I agree that the screaming is a much needed thing in Trivium to be honest. Or at least with the old songs. They don't sound right sung normally when they were originally screaming.

Not really into much metal, only the odd band here and there, but I gotta agree with that.

Saw em in cardiff in march, and they were awesome - but watching that vid of them at download :no: - they just sound like a totally different band - not something I like.

While I'm here - I may aswell ask

anyone got any reccomendations for any metal bands to listen to for a newbie to metal? lol.

And I'm coming from stuff like the used now :laugh: - please don't flame me :rofl:

(the only bands you can call metal in my playlist atm are pantera, trivium and killswitch engage lol.)

thanks

Not really into much metal, only the odd band here and there, but I gotta agree with that.

Saw em in cardiff in march, and they were awesome - but watching that vid of them at download :no: - they just sound like a totally different band - not something I like.

While I'm here - I may aswell ask

anyone got any reccomendations for any metal bands to listen to for a newbie to metal? lol.

And I'm coming from stuff like the used now :laugh: - please don't flame me :rofl:

(the only bands you can call metal in my playlist atm are pantera, trivium and killswitch engage lol.)

thanks

Not knowing what you've already heard/been exposed to I'm at a bit of a disadvantage.

So in light of that I'll just give you some key Albums & bands I think every metal fan should at least check out -

I'd say for Old school Traditional 80's suggestions listen to -

Iron Maiden - Killers, Number Of The Beast, Piece Of Mind.

Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance, Painkiller.

Dio - Holy Diver, Dream Evil

Black Sabbath - Mob Rules (As well as all the Ozzy stuff).

For 80's/90's Thrash/Power Metal check out:

Metallica - Master Of Puppets, Ride The Lightlning, Kill Em All

Testament - The Legacy, New Order, Practice What You Preach.

Megadeth - Peace Sells But Who's Buying, Rust In Peace.

Slayer - Reign In Blood, Seasons In The Abyss

Anthrax - Spreading The Disease, Among The Living

80's Hardcore/Punk/Crossover

Corrosion Of Conformity - Technocracy

Discharge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing

Misfits - Earth Ad, Walk Among Us

D.R.I. - Crossover, Thrash Zone

S.O.D. - Speak English Or Die

Ludichrist - Imaculate Deception

G.B.H. - The Clay Years

Some 90's stuff that might be an easy fit for you:

Prong - Rude Awakening

Fear Factory - Demanufacture, Obsolete

Sepultura - Chaos A.D.

Acid Bath - Pagan Terrorism Tactics, When The Kite String Pops.

90's Death Metal

Carcass - Heartwork, & Necroticism.

Obituary - Cause Of Death

Death - Symbolic, & Individual Thought Patterns

At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul

Napalm Death - Death By Manipulation, Diatribes

Also check out Opeth - Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Still Life, & Ghost Reveries.

As I lay dying, are the kings of metalcore

I disagree. I think that title goes to The Autumn Offering (If you were to consider them metalcore as a lot of people do). Personally I'd prefer Trivium with clean vocals. I like clean or like death (as in the band) not a mix of both/hardcore. Also melo-death such as Arch Enemy, In Flames, Soilwork, Amon Amarth are fine and Children of Bodom too. It just sounds like a rip off when it's like hardcore or whatever. You either gotta go full throttle or none. I do prefer clean the most though. Thrash will always be number one for me.

@ WelshBluebird

Pantera is definately metal. Bands devstorm didnt mention

Children of Bodom

Hammerfall

Forbidden

Hypocrisy

Kataklysm

Kreator

Motorhead and many more

@ devstorm

you forgot

Metallica - And justice for all

C.O.C - America's volume dealer

@ devstorm

you forgot

Metallica - And justice for all

C.O.C - America's volume dealer

Well actually I didn't - "Forget" them. Justice for me at least was a big letdown. And since I was suggesting Hardcore/Metal crossover - I don't think C.O.C.'s America's Volume Dealer would qualify as that. Plus I haven't heard much off that one so I can't say how good it is overall. What I heard didn't hit me right away.

I was more or less including a very generalized overview of bands & albums. As a starting point for someone new to the genre. Although not mentioning Motorhead I should be forced to turn in my Denim, Leather & Warts.

So let me do include:

Motorhead - Bomber, Ace Of Spades, No Sleep Til Hammersmith, & Orgasmatron as great "Examples" of what this band deliver on quite a few more albums that should be owned & studied like fine literature.

Anyway I think others should chime in & make suggestions cause I am in no way a metal expert, just a lifelong afficianado.

Ah man. Got a load of new stuff. Behemoth and Agalloch are ... wow.

Can anyone recomend any good festivals in europe over august, I was considering gates of metal but don't know much of the line up last time i checked and me and a mate pretty much up for anywhere, though costs an issue.

I disagree. I think that title goes to The Autumn Offering (If you were to consider them metalcore as a lot of people do).

You raise a good point there, but The Autumn Offering are not as experienced, and haven't toured as much or sold as many records compared to As I lay Dying.

As I Lay Dying are better anyway, The Autumn Offering are good but not as.

You raise a good point there, but The Autumn Offering are not as experienced, and haven't toured as much or sold as many records compared to As I lay Dying.

As I Lay Dying are better anyway, The Autumn Offering are good but not as.

Yeah have to agree there. As I Lay Dying is the better out of too bands but The Autumn Offering still kicks out a good sound just i only like about 2-3songs from their albums as to As I Lay Dying i like 80% of the songs. :yes:

I'll have to check out The Autumn Offering. I can't stand As I Lay Dying, I think the vocalist is the absolute worst I've heard. As for C.O.C.'s American Volume Dealer, it was a pretty good album, but not as good as Wiseblood or Deliverance. C.O.C. is very good southern metal.

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