[WIP] Luna Element 4

[DoS]

Nope, value modifying in StyleBuilder :)

I PMed you

[Fl@sh]

k, i checked it out.. this is what i dont like..

1. the start button pressed state is WAAAAAYYY too bright \ much.

2.the sliders are all a pixel right of center and look weird.

3. The caption pressed state idea seems to have been derived from the Alienware WB theme. just my opinion but very similar. Same caption glyphs look all saushed on pressed state and i think they also are too bright \ much.

4. The all programs menu \ mousover image is weak compared with rest of theme, maybe try to spruce it up some, its too plain.

5. the shell is sort a weak too, no images for special folders. ( took the easy way out :p )

6. the User panel area \ font is HUUUUUGE. WAY too much wasted real estate !

What i do like..

1. Love the blue

2.  :huh:

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[ArChAn9eL]

i've done that before having block and solid for LE3 when i modded the values...it wasnt till i copied em3's advise on his solid progress bars that i removed the block/solid progress bars, it's all in the values. i think u just set block style in the main root 'progress' and set it to solid when adjusting the vertical and horizontal bar values...

[Fl@sh]

Nope, value modifying in StyleBuilder :)

I PMed you

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well, i tried to tell him... sheesh !! :blink:

vStylers Autobots progress bar.. solid... no bug.

erm3..if u want this to be the best it can be then dont ignore bugs.. just try harder ! :)

Edited August 29, 2005 by Fl@sh

[ArChAn9eL]

what is this mysterious bug? i cant find it!

[em3]

k, i checked it out.. this is what i dont like..

1. the start button pressed state is WAAAAAYYY too bright \ much.

2.the sliders are all a pixel right of center and look weird.

3. The caption pressed state idea seems to have been derived from the Alienware WB theme. just my opinion but very similar. Same caption glyphs look all saushed on pressed state and i think they also are too bright \ much.

4. The all programs menu \ mousover image is weak compared with rest of theme, maybe try to spruce it up some, its too plain.

5. the shell is sort a weak too, no images for special folders. ( took the easy way out tongue.gif )

6. the User panel area \ font is HUUUUUGE. WAY too much wasted real estate !

What i do like..

1. Love the blue

2.  huh.gif

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1. The startbuttons are fixed. :)

2. They are in the center. I checked. Did you? :huh:

3. I don't use WB so I woudn't know.

4. All menu selections look almost the same.

5. I don't know why the images didn't show. I didn't remove them on purpose.

6. I like it.

Edited August 29, 2005 by em3

[DoS]

It feels so good to finally have helped the theme in some way. My pleasure em3.

[em3]

The only downside with the compatible progressbar is that it takes 6 steps instead of 1. But I guess I can live with that. Thanks DoS for helping out. :yes:

[Fl@sh]

hey would a couple of peeps check the audio level sliders and tell me if they are off a pixel to the right?

[DoS]

hey would a couple of peeps check the audio level sliders and tell me if they are off a pixel to the right?

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I zoomed and checked... It seems fine to me

[em3]

No offset.

[TheTerminator]

wow, after the beta this is really taking off. I like how em3 take all these critisisms well, good job man, glad you dont take it personal or anything. And with all these talented people here Im sure we can work out substyles that everyone can love and em3 wont have to do it all. This style seems to be taking on alife of its own, and I think its great! Keep up the good work em3 and everyone else who is contributing, now lets see those compact styles!

[ArChAn9eL]

yeah 99% of the theme makers usually are solid in the "take it or leave it" rule, em3 doesn't even brush with the idea let alone embrace it...i love em3, he is the phoshizzle my nizzle theme creator. not one rant yet! :D i'm lovin' it -mc donalds

[wratho]

yeah 99% of the theme makers usually are solid in the "take it or leave it" rule, em3 doesn't even brush with the idea let alone embrace it...i love em3, he is the phoshizzle my nizzle theme creator. not one rant yet! :D i'm lovin' it -mc donalds

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lol

i dont love em3 lol

but he and luna element rules :)

[em3]

Compact styles are done. This is what's left:

* Bigger captionbuttons (adding 2px)

* The hover on the tray arrow like Dazzla suggested

* Different click state on the sliders and trackbars (maybe)

* Scrollbars and spinners for black

* Improve flashing tasks

* New toolbar hover/click/selected images. (maybe)

lol

i dont love em3 lol

but he and luna element rules :)

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I don't love you either. :laugh: :rofl:

Edited August 29, 2005 by em3

[wratho]

lol :D

[klop]

I'm sure this will be the best theme ever!

Keep up the good work!

[ArChAn9eL]

he's not done with it and it already exceeds almost every other visual style here! cept le3...haha till the end!

[em3]

After this is finished, you should consider doing a WindowBlind skin complete with all the LE styles up to this point. Your prolly capable of alot more than what the limited msstyles engine can let you show.

Any chance of the color change in the start menu I suggested a few pages back?

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I would make WB skins but it isn't completly free. Scrollbars don't get skinned.

No color change. I like the white. It looks good imo. :)

[Tweaker]

Compact styles are done. This is what's left:

* Bigger captionbuttons (adding 2px)

* The hover on the tray arrow like Dazzla suggested

* Different clicl state on the sliders and trackbars (maybe)

* Scrollbars and spinners for black

* Improve flashing tasks

* New toolbar hover/click/selected images. (maybe)

So, you should be done in an hour or two! :D

Great job!!!

[Denis W. Veteran]

Well, I came up with an alternative. Let's see what you and other people think. I like it.

I modified some values, and now the progress bar goes solid in programs where it's needed (like BitTorrent ^_^), and it goes blockstyle in some random ones (IE stays blockstyle, but in Firefox it's solid, so I don't know what's the rule). What matters is that it gets beautiful every way, and then the bug is gone. What do you people think?

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Excellent! Now there will be less moaning about the progress bar. :happy:

I would make WB skins but it isn't completly free. Scrollbars don't get skinned.

No color change. I like the white. It looks good imo. :)

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True - that's for the free version. Maybe you can contact Skinstudio (the author of Skinstudio) to port it, like how he has done for LE2. Or we could fire up the Skinstudio program itself and do the port ourselves.

[DoS]

WB is so much worse! It keeps programs in the background, it has to load with Windows, it's not automatic like a "normal" theme. I don't and I don't think I'll ever recommend the use of it.

[Denis W. Veteran]

WB is so much worse! It keeps programs in the background, it has to load with Windows, it's not automatic like a "normal" theme. I don't and I don't think I'll ever recommend the use of it.

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Although now I use VSes instead of WB (well, I was a WB user for about a year) I'll counter those arguments:

- load with Windows: yeah. Well the Themes service loads with Windows too. :pinch: The only downside is that WB loads 'fload.dll' to quickly load the skin into RAM (or something like that) on login. This slows down the login process by 3 - 5 seconds. Despite that, its behaviour is identical to the Themes service: it hooks DLLs to programs in order to skin them. And in the latest 4.6, I didn't notice any lag when opening programs and navigating in Explorer (not true for earlier versions).

One advantage of VS is that since it's integrated into Windows, it's able to do stuff like theme everything in the CTRL+ALT+DEL dialog, the 'classic' logon dialog, etc. But WB has been updated and supports other stuff - menu backgrounds (and menu items), transparent Start Menus, logon/logoff dialog skinning, and so on.

Another problem with WB: you can't change colours in Windows (for instance, window backgrounds, dialog backgrounds, classic titlebars) without using SKS.

It's your pick. As for this VS, as mentioned before it's quite simple to port this to WB format using Skinstudio - although it's not 100% perfect, and it might have a few bugs.

Edited August 29, 2005 by rm20010

[Mad_Griffith]

I too want to suggest to stick to simple msstyle..

[soldier1st]

looking nice,looking forward to it's release.