WTF Jesse Jackson?


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noping
And he touched upon one of the more sensitive issues of the past week, the use of the word "refugee" to describe people forced from home by nature's devastation. Although the Webster's definition is "a person who flees from home or country to seek refuge elsewhere," many of the displaced bristle at the word.

Jackson suggested that it implies the evacuees are subhuman or criminals.

"It is racist to call American citizens 'refugees,' " he said.

So he thinks that people who come here from other nations to escape oppression are "subhuman" and "criminals"? He doesnt seem to have a problem calling them refugees.

What a racist a$$hole. Because I came here as a refugee long time ago, and am certianly not subhuman or criminal.

He should applogise for this.

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zedaxax

it depends on who defines it......

Main Entry: ref?u?gee

Pronunciation: "re-fyu-'jE

Function: noun

: an individual seeking refuge or asylum; especially : an individual who has left his or her native country and is unwilling or unable to return to ibecause of persecution or fear of persecution (as because of race, religion, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion)b>

One who flees in search of refuge, as in times of war, political oppression, or religious persecution.

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astrokat

Are you not an american citizen?

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widkidone

Everything has to be black and white to him. :angry:

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noping
Are you not an american citizen?

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I am now

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Doli
So he thinks that people who come here from other nations to escape oppression are "subhuman" and "criminals"? He doesnt seem to have a problem calling them refugees.

What a racist a$$hole. Because I came here as a refugee long time ago, and am certianly not subhuman or criminal.

He should applogise for this.

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hold on a sec dont jump the gun.

Jackson thinks that other people who use this word are impling that the evacuees are subhuman or criminals. bascially he is not calling them subhuman or criminals but he thinks other are thinking like that.

also can you post the source so we can get the whole story

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Titan Crane

Jesse Jackson is a blatant racist. It's people like him that curtail the aspirations of good hardworking people by causing lines to be drawn and differences to be constantly pointed out.

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noping
hold on a sec dont jump the gun.

Jackson thinks that other people who use this word are impling that the evacuees are subhuman or criminals. bascially he is not calling them subhuman or criminals but he thinks other are thinking like that.

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Hold on,

Why whould he think that other people use the word refugee instead to mean animal/sub-human.

Unless ofcourse he himself thinks refugee means animal. And if he does then is wrong.

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zedaxax

The few exrefugees i have met in my life fit the above description exactly

from Bosnia, Chile and Iran all escaping from political opression.

I agree that the word Refugge does not befit the people from new orleans - a better word could be hurricane victims or rescue victims or as CNN finally turned to (after much criticism from the black senate for using "refugee") Cnn now politically correctly calls them

Evacuees

got it?

now relax - breath in breath out

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Doli
Hold on,

Why whould he think that other people use the word refugee instead to mean animal/sub-human.

Unless ofcourse he himself thinks refugee means animal. And if he does then is wrong.

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I dont know why people think the way they do, who does? Try emailing him and asking, making a thread wont solve anything im sorry.

Can you post the source

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noping
I dont know why people think the way they do, who does?  Try emailing him and asking, making a thread wont solve anything im sorry.

Can you post the source

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Source : http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3340981

Well if I could call him i would,

but this is the best I can do to let others know by posting in a forum

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noping
The few exrefugees i have met in my life fit the above description exactly

from Bosnia, Chile and Iran all escaping from political opression.

I agree that the word Refugge does not befit the people from new orleans - a better word could be hurricane victims or rescue victims or as CNN finally turned to (after much criticism from the black senate for using "refugee") Cnn now politically correctly calls them

Evacuees

got it?

now relax - breath in breath out

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Except JJ is saying that calling someone refugee = calling them animal or subhuman. Which is clearly not true.

In other words he is saying refugee = animal / sub-human. Which is racist view to hold.

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Aaron

Threads dealing with politics, racial issues, etc, belong in RWI.

Oh, and Jackson is a moron...

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costanza007

The only thing I ask about any of that is, when Jesse was in New Orleans, how much relief supplies did he bring with him? How many of his fellow citizens did he take with him out of there? None. enough said.

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Doli
Source : http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3340981

Well if I could call him i would,

but this  is the best I can do to let others know by posting in a forum

no problem man.

I just think asking "why would he think that..." would be better solved from him then us.

Oh, and Jackson is a moron...

and name calling really works things out? Thats the problem people dont try to figure out why but just turn to name calling like its going to help.

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+BudMan

WTF JJ is such a moron! What is wrong with the word refugee?

refugee

One who flees in search of refuge

refuge

1. Protection or shelter, as from danger or hardship.

2. A place providing protection or shelter.

3. A source of help, relief, or comfort in times of trouble.

I would say the people leaving NO could be defined as refugees..

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Aaron
no problem man.

I just think asking "why would he think that..." would be better solved from him then us.

and name calling really works things out? Thats the problem people dont try to figure out why but just turn to name calling like its going to help.

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No it doesn't work anything out to call names, but I have little respect for the man at all. He has been an opportunist since his days with Dr. King and has done more to impede the progress of blacks than help. He blackmails companies for payoffs, had affairs on his wife and a child out of wedlock with her all the while "counseling" Clinton during the Lowensky affair. I maybe should not have called him a moron, as he may very well be intelligent enough, how about charlatan?

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Kst

Noping,

Jesse Jackson is a person that has no clue as to the crap that he himself spits out his racist mouth. He uses the very worn out Race card often to suit his own needs, period!.

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R-Flex
WTF JJ is such a moron!  What is wrong with the word refugee?

refugee

    One who flees in search of refuge

refuge

  1. Protection or shelter, as from danger or hardship.

  2. A place providing protection or shelter.

  3. A source of help, relief, or comfort in times of trouble.

I would say the people leaving NO could be defined as refugees..

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Finally put. In no way is 'refugee' racist.

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Powa

I can't understand why he said that. I mean yeah,they aren't refugees, but saying that a refugee is a sub-human is un-true, and un-called for.

I heard a woman say on the news "Call us Survivors, or Heros". I have no problem with the term survivor, it's just Hero. How can they be heros by suviving a natural disaster? I know some of them are heros by saving the lives of others, but the majority would have been looking our for number one, and I have no problem with that, it's natural to want to save your life. I'm not provoking anything, just making a comment by what I saw/heard.

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Starcom826

I frankly am becoming quite tired of how often the race "card" is being employed. There is a time for it, but this is definately not one of them. Really, the government has tried every since the Civil War to bring equality to minorities (with the Japanese as one exception which has been fixed). Look at it this way. Look at Asians. Many of them are sucessful and you rarely hear about racism practiced against them. Why? I am a firm believer that economic equality paves the way to social equality in terms of minorities. If you work hard and try to move up the social ladder, that is the best way to solidify your race's equality. Most of the problems people have with hispanics stem from illegal immigration. I think that some African Americans have carried the race grudge for far too long. Yes, in some areas you can still run into problems of racism. Trying to attact attention and force the government to give special breaks to a minority group is a terrible way to do it. It achieves the exact opposite. The time for large scale legal protection passed over a decade ago. If you really want to integrate, then integrate, not divide. If you keep claiming that you're being treated differently, well then people will really begin to think you are different.

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Ryne

Completely agree with starcom.

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dreamz
No it doesn't work anything out to call names, but I have little respect for the man at all.  He has been an opportunist since his days with Dr. King and has done more to impede the progress of blacks than help.  He blackmails companies for payoffs, had affairs on his wife and a child out of wedlock with her all the while "counseling" Clinton during the Lowensky affair.  I maybe should not have called him a moron, as he may very well be intelligent enough, how about charlatan?

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indeed. (Y)

how is "refugee" racist? he needs to study his definitions and etymologies.

I frankly am becoming quite tired of how often the race "card" is being employed.  There is a time for it, but this is definately not one of them.  Really, the government has tried every since the Civil War to bring equality to minorities (with the Japanese as one exception which has been fixed).  Look at it this way.  Look at Asians.  Many of them are sucessful and you rarely hear about racism practiced against them.  Why?  I am a firm  believer that economic equality paves the way to social equality in terms of minorities.  If you work hard and try to move up the social ladder, that is the best way to solidify your race's equality.  Most of the problems people have with hispanics stem from illegal immigration.  I think that some African Americans have carried the race grudge for far too long.  Yes, in some areas you can still run into problems of racism.  Trying to attact attention and force the government to give special breaks to a minority group is a terrible way to do it.  It achieves the exact opposite.  The time for large scale legal protection passed over a decade ago.  If you really want to integrate, then integrate, not divide.  If you keep claiming that you're being treated differently, well then people will really begin to think you are different.

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there will still be some subtle racism. as an asian-american, i still feel it sometimes. it might be as trivial as, "you have good english." but i hope that, over time, things like this will vanish.

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sbweb77
how is "refugee" racist?  he needs to study his definitions and etymologies.

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You can't blame him. He is a victim of a poor education provided him by the "white establishment". :rolleyes:

The thing I find most amazing is that anybody still pays attention to him.

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