[review] Logitech G7

[EGM92]

my MX1000 turns off after 12 sec of it being lifted up. Now if you have your damn mouse up off the pad for 12 seconds what the hell kind of game are you playing???!

I used the 510, Click! Plus and a bunch of other logitech mice and the MX1000 is in my opinion 100x's better then all of those, it fit my hand prefectly, when I use a different mouse my hand doesn't feel comfortable, at all. I've even resorted to bringing in my MX into work cause I can't stand their MS mouses. And even told my boss off when he complained it wasn't ergonomical mouse.... (he's a freaking idiot)

[Shaidar]

I'm sure you dont have their entire line up from past to present.. :p

you dont have the MX610 or the MX518 for starters..    :whistle:

so with your experence. is it worth it to replace my MX1000 mouse? :p

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No indeed, I didn't have 'every' version ... :o

And I'd prefer the G7 over ANY other logitech mouse! The G7 is simply the best wireless mouse they've got, it's even better than a MX510 ... I don't have a G5, so i can't compare it with that ...

[InternalStorm]

I would guess by 'design', he meant the shape of the mouse and number of buttons or the placement. If you really knew much about the MX1000, you would know that the current MX1000 does not shut off its laser when you pick it up. Some earlier ones may have, but this has never happened to me. How can you say that this mouse will not cut it for a "hardcore" gamer? I play a vast number of games with my MX1000, as do many other people. I fare just as well as some of my friends who use wired mice, and no, they do not suck at gaming.

Of course they improved some things with the new mice, but some of your statements seem ignorant.

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There were many many complaints about the millisecond lag time from the picking up of the mouse. If this is something that has been fixed I have not heard about it, but my statements made about how the MX1000 isn't the best mouse for a hardcore gamer I can explain if you wish. A hardcore gamer is a gamer that wants the freedom to be able to switch DPI on the fly, this comes in really handy when making certain moves or being in certain game situations. The MX1000 doesn't have that capability. A hardcore gamer is somebody who wants to be able to scale up to at least 1600 dpi when playing fast paced games, and have optimal precision as well when doing so. The MX1000 offers a lowly 800dpi, which I found to be not enough for somebody who likes to be able to swivel at high revolutions quickly in games like Counter Strike. Of course with a low resolution it wouldn't matter, but at 1600x1200 or 1680x1050 which is what I play at, it becomes something that you get used to switching to with the added DPI buttons on the mouse.

The MX1000 is also shaped differently. I found the thumb area to be too tight for my thumb. The G5 or all other Logitech mice have the same design of the large thumb area that fits any size thumb. I found it uncomfortable while gaming, but that's just me of course.

The built in battery, although not really a problem for most, sort of bothers me in that over time the charge will start to get weaker, and the weight of the mouse is very heavy with no way to control the weight. The G5 offers the ability to have a lighter or heavier mouse and although it may seem useless it does offer much more user-preferred control when moving the mouse. Also, wireless technology has not come yet to the point where a wireless mouse can have 0 lag. Although it is very good, it isn't as perfect as a corded mouse as I have experienced with the MX1000 or other cordless mice. With the G5 we now have 500 reports per second via USB, which is exactly what you need with a 2000DPI capable mouse.

Those are my reasonings, if you have any questions or comments on any of them and why your MX1000 would be cut out for a person who wishes to have those advanced features, you can voice them. Other than that, the MX1000 is a great mouse for gaming, no doubt, but does not have the features that the G5 or even at times the G7 or Razor Copperhead has in terms of advanced features that real intense gamers would want.

[Dutchie388]

hi!

is anyone able to tell me if the middle button on the G7 is a nice easy click, rather than that rather clumsy heavy press the mx1000 needs (which to me seems to activate the tilt button too if your not carefull)

I found it the same with a ms explorer 4 i got once and hated it, i overcame this with the mx1000 by using the left tilt as the middle button instead. The mx500 had a nice easy middle button similar to 'normal' mice.

Might sound like a bit of an anal question, but i never could get used to that heavy middle button, and it just ruins it for me.

[SaLiVa]

Okay, this review was confusing. What is an accu?

What battery does this mouse use? Double A?

How many does it use?

Anyway, I've settled in with my MX1000, and it has a forward button. They shouldn't have removed the forward button on the G7. The back button has to be complimented by the other or else it's useless.

The market focus of this mouse is plain stupid if you asked me. Sure it's aimed for gamers, but gamers are also heavy internet surfers as well. Probably the heaviest considering they'd need a high bandwidth connection to start with. So why take the forward button away? A mouse that big should support "another button"!

Somebody also mentioned assigning it to the tilt on the mouse wheel. I use it for scrolling, just like it was built for. I dont ever use it in gaming. I dont understand how any gamer can assign so many buttons to one mouse... Stick to the keyboard... So much more faster!

[ozgeek]

I have the MX1000 and it has excellent performance in games I play. A mouse is a mouse. Just any mouse is good for games. They all do the same job. If you want more responsive with the mx1000, just increase the pointer speed.

There are just different designs to suit different people. Same as that there are different favours of pizza to suit anyone.

[blab357]

I just bought this mouse, and quite simply it is extremely awsome. There are many reasons for this but the first reason is the 2000 DPI. Now for those of you who think that 800 dpi is good enough, well its only good enough if you dont want to admit you have an inferior mouse.

I was using a MS wireless intellimouse explorer 2.0 with the tilt wheel. Not only did the middle mouse click not work properly, but the left and right scroll was shoddy.

With this mouse, the wheel is solid, the side to side click is just right and the middle mouse click is easy yet silent. The lack of a forward button is a bit of a dissapointment and im sure they could have included another button, and it doesnt make sense to me why they wouldnt. Another huge improvement over other mice I have used is finally they figgured out that you dont have to use pea sized teflon on the bottom of every mouse. The large gliding pads add stability and (I imagine) logitivity to them meaning they wont wear as quick, they also slide really well.

Another advantage to this mouse that is not obvious to some is the fact its portable! Yeah really portable. Just say you need to head out with ur laptop somewhere and dont have a second mouse (well that is if you have a laptop), simply pull out the mini adapter and off u go. With a charged battery this mouse will last at least a couple of days and with a power button on the bottom of the mouse you can turn it off while you store it in ur bag. You can even use the base station as a usb extension (I dont know why you would but you can).

Finally as a mechanical engineer I can aplaud Logitech on their creativity! The mouse body of the G7 was made in the same mould system as the G5, the only difference is the guts and a tiny rectangle of plastic at the front! The battery slot on the G7 is the place the adjustable weight cartrige goes! Most people wont apreciate this but I do, it was a great way to save money on making the mouse.

Over all my only problem is the shape, as compared to my old shape, the left side of the mouse is a different shape, I would rahter not have such a large dip on the side of the mouse. But that being said, i have only owned the mouse for 5 days so im not used to it yet.

Anyways this gets 9/10 due to the shape problem (that may or may not be a problem for you), and the lack of a forward button.

Oh if you feel that you can live without a tilt wheel (which all of us have for the past 10+ years) you can bind forward and back to the tilt wheel (which is sort of cool).

[GrimReeper]

Can someone with a MX1000 and a G7 tell me which is more comfortable (if they like one of them that is). I want to get to get this mouse mainly because its got a high DPI and looks very ergonomic. I have the CRAP Microsoft mouse and its driving me insane.

[coolchan]

Ok, can you guys that either have the G5 or G7 tell me about the perfomance on a black textured mousepad? I heard someone talked to the people at logitech that the laser doesn't track the movement very well on black or dark coloured mousepads.

[jagwire]

Coolchan, my friend with a G7 is getting random dpi changes and battery loss, he is using the same black pad as me (Ratzpad GS) and they told him it is not suggested, but I think the g7 just has weak batteries..

On my side, I have the ratzpad GS and my logitech g5 works amazing on it gliding away... I think it's just bull to cover up the g7's battery problem.. :p

[coolchan]

Coolchan, my friend with a G7 is getting random dpi changes and battery loss, he is using the same black pad as me (Ratzpad GS) and they told him it is not suggested, but I think the g7 just has weak batteries..

On my side, I have the ratzpad GS and my logitech g5 works amazing on it gliding away... I think it's just bull to cover up the g7's battery problem.. :p

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Ok :p

I think I'm gonna get the G5 too. I have Mx510 now. I have black Icemat and func surface 1030. I hope they work. Maybe I'm gonna buy a steelpad qck as well.

[bobbyw]

Having had a G7 in my hand when I started typing this, let me tell you a bit about it. It's heavy, and you can't change the weights like in the corded G5. It's also only got one button for back, and no forward button... because having more buttons on a gamer's mouse is just totally useless. The zoom buttons are VERY, VERY hard to get your fingers to, especially if you want to hit the right one. Everyone who's used this mouse (about five people) have all got that impression, and said the same thing, even before I brought it up. The one display on the mouse showing battery life and DPI settings is center middle of the mouse, you know, where the palm of your hand always is. Real useful. As for the software, the cd they sent me didn't work, and you can't even get that version of the drivers and software on their website... it's just not up. You want another review from someone who isn't wallowing in the total **** that comes out of their mouth this is it. This mouse is NOT WORTH CLOSE TO 100 dollars. I'm going back to my 30 dollar wired mouse.

[bobbyw]

Having had a G7 in my hand when I started typing this, let me tell you a bit about it. It's heavy, and you can't change the weights like in the corded G5. It's also only got one button for back, and no forward button... because having more buttons on a gamer's mouse is just totally useless. The zoom buttons are VERY, VERY hard to get your fingers to, especially if you want to hit the right one. Everyone who's used this mouse (about five people) have all got that impression, and said the same thing, even before I brought it up. The one display on the mouse showing battery life and DPI settings is center middle of the mouse, you know, where the palm of your hand always is. Real useful. As for the software, the cd they sent me didn't work, and you can't even get that version of the drivers and software on their website... it's just not up. You want another review from someone who isn't wallowing in the total **** that comes out of their mouth this is it. This mouse is NOT WORTH CLOSE TO 100 dollars. I'm going back to my 30 dollar wired mouse.

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oh yeah, and i forgot to mention... give it just a little thought. 400 DPI to 2000 DPI. SERIOUSLY drastic change, in CS and UT2k4 there is no sensitivity setting that lets you be able to use ALL THREE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT settings at the same time. you can set it high and never use the 2000DPI, or really low and never use the 400DPI. Think about it, over three times the sensitivity?

[SonComet]

Can someone with a MX1000 and a G7 tell me which is more comfortable (if they like one of them that is). I want to get to get this mouse mainly because its got a high DPI and looks very ergonomic. I have the CRAP Microsoft mouse and its driving me insane.

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I personally like how my brother's mx1000 feels better than my G7. However, that's mostly due to the shiny surface of this mouse. I don't really like how it feels on my skin, but since the mouse works so well I can live with it. Also, I like the thumb rest on the mx1000 a lot.

I bought the mouse mainly because it looked like it would slide really smoothly. And it slides siginificantly better than my brother's mx1000 (which slid better than my old mx900).

[MiG-]

tbh, the mx1000 tracks perfectly for me, although it does need a steel mouse mat to get the best out of it :no: and i havent got round to buying one yet.

i play cs:s a lot, and on servers where good, talented players are, and often find myself with scores of 8-0, and 16-2.

I dont get why you would need a DPI change, because even sniping on counter strike or any other game needs a fast, yet steady hand to get a good, clean headshot.

plus, say ure sniping with a scout, you aim, u kill with ure low DPI, yet behind the guy you just sniped is 3 other guys, each a fair distance between, 400DPI is useless.

I use low sensitivity in cs anyway, around 2.7. Mite not be the lowest, but i can get headshots with ease, and tbh, the weight of the mouse helps great deals with photoshop applications, and even better with games as you get more control.

Think about it, throw a piece of paper, you got not control, throw a baseball, you get control, and the extra weight of the mx1000 and ergonomics help a great deal.

If your a "TRUE" Gamer, you wouldnt need to lift the mouse like you all suggest, because a steel mousepad is of A4 diameter if not slightly bigger, i dont have that space hardly and i can game across the same area perfectly.

a A4 document contains a resolution of 3400 x 2000 or something similar, cant quote the exact dimenstions, but that is @ 72dpi, so therefore a A4 document with a 2000dpi mouse would give an insane working resolution for a screen, so shurely 800dpi with a 5.9megapixel sensor is plenty enough for normal, graphical and heavy gaming use.

if you want all the extra bells and whistles, loose a few buttons, yet gain stupid features u wont use then the G7 is ideal. ;)

[smarcher]

I have just purchased the G7 and am having trouble with the right button. It seems to be oversensitive and menus will not pop up. Also very noticable in Call of Duty. Almost like its registering a double click or something. Battery life atrocious using black steelpad!!

Anyone else having these probs?

[abarsami]

I also got the g7 and love it but am having 1 annoying problem.

I also have the usb notebook dinovo keyboard using a seperate receiver.

My problem is that the mouse sometime just stops responding and I have to reboot for it to work again. The mouse causes my keyboard to stop working also.

This happens when I wake up and want to login to windows. I can't. Mouse doesn't work. Keyboard doesn't work.

Keyboard never had this problem before, so it is the mouse that's doing it.

I think another neowin g7 reviewer had a similar problem.

Any fixes?

[wutang01]

Man ... I hope this mouse will be bundled with an awesome keyboard ... cause then I'd buy that combo!

What a great combo for a new 64 system ... :laugh:

[aquadark]

the lack of forward button is a MAJOR flaw... the rest it superb, but because of this button I would stick to my MX500 lol ;)

[SamNeeds]

Looks really nice. Hmm...I think i will stick with the one i currently have! - Which bears a slight resemblence to this ones shape!

[GrimReeper]

I want to see the G7/G15 Mouse/Keyboard combo. Thne I will be impressed at more willing to buy.

[Cyrana]

Does the US version come with a universal votage charger yet? I have an MX700, and it only works in a US 110V socket, its not 100-240 like most small items these days.

Also, any MX700 users tried this? Is it as heavier or is it a bit lighter than the MX700? I don't have too many issues w/mine other than the weight (just a bit), and the voltage.

[russellc]

I want to see the G7/G15 Mouse/Keyboard combo. Thne I will be impressed at more willing to buy.

OT: :rofl: your avatar is hilarious

[OPaul]

Does anyone's pinky hurt after using this mouse for extended periods of time? It may just be me, I've been using a trackball for the past 3 years, but my pinky is killing me.

[Oompa]

* Logitech removed the 'forward' button', there's only a 'back' thumb-button.

Lost my vote.

Mine too. I love that button.