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y0sh

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What I want to know is why us PC users always get ugly, cluttered UIs whilst the those lucky enough to own Macs get:

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Microsoft made this for OS X, so why not use the same template for Windows?

It's so much neater & aesthetically pleasing. Plus, it doesn't open maximized by default. Why the hell do we always need everything maximized?

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Luis.A

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What I want to know is why us PC users always get ugly, cluttered UIs whilst the those lucky enough to own Macs get:

post-2-1133947457.jpg

Microsoft made this for OS X, so why not use the same template for Windows?

It's so much neater & aesthetically pleasing. Plus, it doesn't open maximized by default. Why the hell do we always need everything maximized?

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I do agree that looks a lot nicer. But I think the office team is split into two. One for PC and one for Mac. Correct me if i am wrong

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Rudy

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What I want to know is why us PC users always get ugly, cluttered UIs whilst the those lucky enough to own Macs get:

Microsoft made this for OS X, so why not use the same template for Windows?

It's so much neater & aesthetically pleasing. Plus, it doesn't open maximized by default. Why the hell do we always need everything maximized?

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personally i like the pc interface better, when i was using my mac i hated office for mac....

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Andrew Lyle Global Moderator

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Aaargh! It's getting a bit too bloated if you ask me.

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but microsoft is trying to make it easy to use.. and i guess have vista universal. wave 12?

i actually really like it.. it's gonna be something new, from the amazing blue or olive, or silver toolbar scheme in windows XP and office 2003 LOL.

i hope this is gonna be as easy to use as 2003 from the beginning.. took me awhile to learn all the products in office.. front page, power point.. etc.

heres something different.. the guy is running windows XP, you can tell by the toolbar, and microsoft office 12 toolbar is vista style..

XP, windows 2000, and vista only i guess?

those are some BIG menus LOL, closed and opened.

http://bbs.mydrivers.com/attachments/19O12...AXE6Nxi7Skl.jpg

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quick

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It's just getting too functional. I can't stand a program that decides what functions I need to make my document.:no::

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I agree, but i do remember someone doing a demo of it saying that you can still customize your toolbars/ribbons to what ever you like to have on it.

They are trying to make the average user be able to find all those hidden features that are hidden in the menus and dialog boxes, it could be very good or could be annoying we will see i guess... I know for sure the first thing i turn off in office XP & 2003 was "show custom menus" or what every it was called, where it would hide stuff... friggin annoying!

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y0sh

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I do agree that looks a lot nicer. But I think the office team is split into two. One for PC and one for  Mac. Correct me if i am wrong

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Thats what is so annoying. People make beautiful apps for Macs, almost as if its against the law not to do so. For the PC, nobody cares about the look.

Microsoft make a big deal about the aesthetics + simplicity they've improved in Vista. They're so proud of their "hard work" when their OWN mac division does it better without any effort.

personally i like the pc interface better, when i was using my mac i hated office for mac....

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Although I may not understand why you prefer the PC interface, I accept it.

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PGHammer

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i think that some things in the UI do look kinda inconsistent... i mean... look at outlook and the rest.

but yeh. i can't wait to use the new UI in Word/Excel/PowerPoint.

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Outlook actually changed the *least* of all the Office applications (however, Outlook also had a major change two versions back); however, even in Outlook, the application windows are a heck of a lot cleaner and smoother than in Outlook 2003. The UI change in the other applications (in my case, Word, which is the application I use most other than Outlook) is still driving me barmy. I actually find the lack of major changes in Outlook's UI refreshing (however, one change is actually rather pleasant: the Calendar and e-mail views are now combined by default, which is way overdue).

Why do I like the combined Calendar/Mailbox view? For one thing, Outlook is supposed to be a PIM (Personal Information Manager), in addition to being an e-mail client; if the two functions are both supposed to be accessible and usable in the same application, why shouldn't they both be accessible from the same application window? The PIM functions have been in Outlook from the beginning, and started moving to center stage with Outlook 2000; however, you had to open another window to use the PIM functionality, which I found counterproductive, especially since my use of Outlook is mail-centric. However, I can now actually use e-mail to drive Schedule/Calendar events without having to have an Exchange Server as the back end. (By replying to a mail message concerning an appointment, I can automagically fill in the date/time/purpose of the appointment in the Calendar. No fancy forms necessary.)

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PGHammer

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but microsoft is trying to make it easy to use.. and i guess have vista universal.  wave 12?

i actually really like it.. it's gonna be something new, from the amazing blue or olive, or silver toolbar scheme in windows XP and office 2003 LOL.

i hope this is gonna be as easy to use as 2003 from the beginning.. took me awhile to learn all the products in office.. front page, power point.. etc.

heres something different.. the guy is running windows XP, you can tell by the toolbar, and microsoft office 12 toolbar is vista style..

XP, windows 2000, and vista only i guess?

those are some BIG menus LOL, closed and opened.

http://bbs.mydrivers.com/attachments/19O12...AXE6Nxi7Skl.jpg

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Not exactly news. Office 2003 and Office XP both require Windows 2000 *at minimum*. Also, both Windows 2000 and XP are skinnable to reflect either the XP or even Vista UI (and Windows XP can drop back to the Windows 2000/Classic UI). Also, consider just third-party applications: How many of them adhere to the extant Microsoft UI design guidelines? (I'm not even going to bring up Apple, so this isn't Mac-bashing, but more obvious repeat offenders such as Adobe, Macromedia, and even Symantec, not to mention QUALCOMM and IBM.)

In the case of the Mac version of Office, that has *always* come from a different group altogether within Microsoft; unlike Windows Office, which is aimed at the corporate user, Mac Office is targeted at the home user (which explains the major differences between Entourage, which includes USENET/NNTP client support, and Outlook, which doesn't).

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eminem213486

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i think most of you are forgetting the fact that the big bars will be hideable.

most of us will know that we can make them smaller and get it out of the way until we really need to use it.. or final edit of a paper.

double click on the tap and it hides neatly until double clicked again

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Fred Derf Veteran

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Microsoft made this for OS X, so why not use the same template for Windows?

It's so much neater & aesthetically pleasing. Plus, it doesn't open maximized by default. Why the hell do we always need everything maximized?

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I run everything maximized (Windows, Linux, MacOS). I can only actively work on one application at a time. If I multitask, I switch to another full screen application.

The MacOS maximize button doesn't maximize quite the way I would want it to so I usually end up dragging the window manually. I didn't like the wasted space (the visible desktop) that was shown on your screen image. That would bug me.

I created a poll:

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=391325

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