Adblockers

[Steven P. Administrators]

It's not up to me how people view Neowin on their browsers, because short of installing scripts that detect adblockers (they exist) we'll always have to put up with it. I ask simply that people don't gloat about it, show some respect. This is a privately run website, not a state run service.

I don't consider people who block ads thieves! I just find it totally disrespectful that they gloat about it and then come on here spouting off as if I owe them.

Neowin is in every sense of the word a 2 way street, the visitors ensure we can stay online by visiting and letting the ads display (ad blockers are detected by our publishers and we DON'T get paid for blocked ads) and it's our duty to invest the revenue back into the site as we've been doing for the past 3 or 4 years, which has in turn offered stability far beyond anything we had before 2005.

It's the most basic economics and people who reckon we'll do OK without the ads are living in a dreamworld.

* Previously I said that we would put gloaters in a "special group" (flood control and limited profile permissions such as no sig etc) this never happened! But maybe people would understand why I felt I should respond to people who gloat in that manner.

Edited May 19, 2008 by Neobond
Amended from a later post that I made

[panicswitched]

i never have found the need to block ads on neowin as they are not in the way and work with the site design

this is a good desicion on your behalf neobond :happy:

[Wannes]

Finally, action has been taken. Good on you Nebond. :cool:

[panicswitched]

who's having problems with ads on Neowin? I barely notice they're there.

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exactly theyre not flash or not that i have noticed they dont blink annoyinly they are just there, they dont even slow load time

[badnewz]

From now on, people who tell others how to block ads here will be warned and moved into a flood control group with a minute wait. This includes members who gloat about blocking ads.

Profile and Sig options will also be removed (seeing as we have to pay for all that extra bandwidth on sigs).

Dont disrespect me guys because I'm fed up with it. Mods will be told about this new policy forthwith.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that this revenue keeps us online.

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this has got to be one of the stupidest posts ever.

how dare you talk to us like that.

[IceDogg]

Good for Neowin, but it's sad that's it come to this. Even if you block ads you should whitelist sites you want to support and can trust (like Neowin) and don't brag about it all over the site. He even ask nicely for people not do that in the post about the ads improvements and yet some just had to anyway. Sad!

Offtopic a little, but is the ad free subs still in the plans? Not rushing just hoping that hasn't changed because of all this.

[matt74441]

Well I'm glad that you're finally doing something about this. However it shouldn't be necessary, Neowin's ads are non-intrusive and SUPPORT THE SITE, AS NEOWIN COULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT THE AD REVENUES, but what do I know?

[panicswitched]

this has got to be one of the stupidest posts ever.

how dare you talk to us like that.

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its his site in all honesty

dont like it? leave?

NeoBond has my full support on this and im just a user

[reveries]

who's having problems with ads on Neowin? I barely notice they're there.

[shawn]

So we ain't got any more picture sigs?

[panicswitched]

So we ain't got any more picture sigs?

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i dont see why sigs would be removed as sig images shouldnt be hosted on neowin so hopefully no worries

[shawn]

Ok then.....sad thing to see this happening right here though..

[f0rbez]

Thats kind of harsh to bar any talk about blocking ads, just because of the possibility of blocking some ads from this site. There are many sites who use intrusive advert methods and many legit reasons people would want to block them.

[joker999]

Hey! thats good idea :)

but i dont know other view of point.

like: they dont like the annoying ads etc..

i have no idea.

edit:

Whoa! :o http://www.websiteoptimization.com/service...n.net/index.php

Global Statistics

Total HTTP Requests: 81

Total Size: 291769 bytes (Thats about 292kb for one damn page!)

Download Times*

Connection Rate Download Time

14.4K 226.34 seconds

28.8K 113.27 seconds

33.6K 97.12 seconds

56K 58.35 seconds

ISDN 128K 18.01 seconds

T1 1.44Mbps 1.75 seconds

no good :no:

Edited October 25, 2005 by joker999

[pixated]

The only reason people block ads is not the ads itself but the slowness of them. Most of the time it takes 10 seconds for me to load a page in Neowin, and I've tracked it down to the ads server. With no ads pages load instantly.

I disabled my adblock, but you are only hurting yourself with this since the ads slow things down considerably (at least for me they do).

Will v5 have a option to subscribe and have a site without ads? That would be a good solution.

[x-byte]

i never have found the need to block ads on neowin as they are not in the way and work with the site design

this is a good desicion on your behalf neobond  :happy:

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My too.. I never notice the ads anyway.

The only reason people block ads is not the ads itself but the slowness of them. Most of the time it takes 10 seconds for me to load a page in Neowin, and I've tracked it down to the ads server. With no ads pages load instantly.

I disabled my adblock, but you are only hurting yourself with this since the ads slow things down considerably (at least for me they do).

Will v5 have a option to subscribe and have a site without ads? That would be a good solution.

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Neowin ads are not very large or slowing the site very much. I've even had good enough speeds on a 56k modem.

I don't see how it will hurt them when it is the ads that pay for the site.

[pixated]

The ads are small true, but the server takes ages to respond when the site is really busy .. which is most of the time these days. I've got nothing against the ads, they're just so damn slow for me.

[fanboynz]

out of interest, If I bought a proper subscription would the ads disappear?

[Steven P. Administrators]

we are going to include an adless option with the update :)

[fanboynz]

Ok, a little O/T, I'd like to pay for a couple of years direct via cc. Any plans to offer such an option, paypal isnt really my thing.

[insanekiwi]

very good idea. i know we support the site by loading and clicking the ads.

[mr.pingu]

the site does seem to go slow sometimes, whether its the ads or not i dont know, but they havent done any harm to me so i leave them there, hell i even clicky on them occasionally ;)

[Chode]

From now on, people who tell others how to block ads here will be warned and moved into a flood control group with a minute wait. This includes members who gloat about blocking ads.

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Just some clarification, Neobond. Does this mean:

1) People who tell others how to block Neowin's ads?

or

2) People who use Neowin to discuss general ad-blocking?

Edited October 25, 2005 by Chode

[Sensayshun]

I've turned adblock off for you. But only because I love you neobond :hug:

edit: I'll evem make a thing of clicking them every now and then. That's how much I love you.

Edited October 25, 2005 by Sens

[BigCheese]

Just some clarification, Neobond. Does this mean:

1) People who tell others how to block Neowin's ads?

or

2) People who use Neowin to discuss general ad-blocking?

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I think its like this. Example topic:

Person 1: There is a horrible ad on Neowin, please could the admins do something about it.

Person 2: I just block ads. No fuss :)