ShaneSparky_YYZ Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 If it plays divx files regardless of size and stuff this is something for me! I have so many divx files on my pc that this would be great to store it on, and use it for on the go and catch up on my missed tv shows :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdave Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 i would robably choose green one instead of any ipod. looks so nice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms_old2 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I don't own an iPod, but doesn't that UI look exactly like the one on the iPod? Yes, it does. -- Max Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbehrne Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I don't like the menu interface - it is too much like iPods. That being said, I have used my brother's creative zen player and IMHO it is a much better mp3 player then the iPod. I bought an Ipod to use while I excerise and i can't even jog with it (that causes the ipod to crash)... I can't sync files by browsing to the ipod and dropping mp3s on it (come on it's 2005 for christ sake!) w/o using Itunes (which is the s******t mp3 player for a computer around). This was my first Apple product purchase and it will definately be my last! Next time I will listen to that little voice in the back of my head telling me that Steve Jobs is taking me for a ride as I paid for it... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betasp Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 "Ipod Killer" has become such a joke. If you have to tell someone you are cool, you probably aren't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Stranger Subscriber¹ Posted December 8, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 8, 2005 I can't sync files by browsing to the ipod and dropping mp3s on it (come on it's 2005 for christ sake!) w/o using Itunes (which is the s******t mp3 player for a computer around). yes you can, i do it everyday using xplay 2. there is also anapod explorer, but this one is a bit harder to find if you know what i mean. so weither you pay extra or not, but you can definately browse your ipod though the explorer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRambo Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 As many people have already said, they COPIED the basic iPod UI which bugs me first... The navigation buttons are no where compared to the click wheel and its much thicker! Overall: (N) You forget that Apple is getting sued from creative for copying their UI. Creative had a patent on it and the ipods still used it ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mx Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I'll be getting one of these soon for review. Once I receive it I shall post images and my thoughts here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus- Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 its an ipod killer just because of all the formats it works with no one in their right mind would use an ipod if your wanting compatability and ease of video playback. Your only excuse for the ipod is now the looks :p DIVX here i come!!!!!111 :woot: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulCabby Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 You forget that Apple is getting sued from creative for copying their UI. Creative had a patent on it and the ipods still used it ;) Yes correct. Creative created the UI first. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenutensils Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 that is one f***ing ugly mofo of an mp3 player Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbehrne Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 yes you can, i do it everyday using xplay 2. there is also anapod explorer, but this one is a bit harder to find if you know what i mean. so weither you pay extra or not, but you can definately browse your ipod though the explorer. Sure I can browse it - woohoo. But I shouldn't have to use Itunes to sync files on it so that they will be recognized by the ipod's software. I'm not going to "buy" extra software to do something that every other mp3 player out there does automatically... :crazy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betasp Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Your only excuse for the ipod is now the looks 1. Cost 2. AAC and ITunes Compatible 3. Brand Loyalty (owned others) 4. Better UI navigation 5. Ease of Use //off the top of my head PS. I owned 1st, 3rd, Mini and now Nano. Not a fan boy.. just loyal and prefer brainless use of the ipod. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbehrne Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 1. Cost 2. AAC and ITunes Compatible 3. Brand Loyalty (owned others) 4. Better UI navigation 5. Ease of Use //off the top of my head PS. I owned 1st, 3rd, Mini and now Nano. Not a fan boy.. just loyal and prefer brainless use of the ipod. No disrespect but I was following you until I read the "I owned 1st, 3rd, Mini and now Nano. Not a fan boy.. "... Sometimes you just need to take a good long look in the mirror and say "I am an apple fanboy, I am an apple fanboy"! :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefawx Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Wow, they look really cheap...like my Zen Micro. Ugh, I hate/d that thing. Seriously, I like electronics that ooze quality from the outset. Not that are like expensive lego. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus- Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Yes correct. Creative created the UI first. I would love to see apple forced to change the UI on new iPod models over this. Then the apple fanboys would be pwnt :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wutang01 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 To tell the truth ... I reckon this Vision:M is awesome! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fit4130Rider Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I find it very agrvating how people SWEAR that iPod had their UI before Creative did and that Creative is just a huge copy. You apple fanboys never stop amazing me. When confronted with nano's flaw (creative btw had that name first) they quickly came back with "BUY A FSCKING CASE." You shouldn't have to buy a case for a MP3 player, period. Then i laughed when the video came out and they threw in a cheapass case for it (i'm sure that planned...) Now when Creative releases a new player that has a color screen everyone (read apple fanboys) flips out and goes crazy about how Creative copied iPods UI. Well, they didn't. http://www.betanews.com/article/Creative_T...tent/1125404963 Eat it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I would love to see apple forced to change the UI on new iPod models over this. Then the apple fanboys would be pwnt :laugh: yes that would be rolf (I own a zen micro) and they might have or at least a nice hefty settlement. The fact is tough they have to take Apple's ideas into it otherwise who would by it? Anyway Creative have had movie players out for ages I use to own a Portable Media Centre, in till it broke. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted December 9, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 9, 2005 You're forgetting that most people just want to listen to music and the iPod gives them that in a stylish and very simplistic package. The 150 million accessories don't hurt it either. That too... Also for all of you just hoping to **** of the apple fanboys, don't bother, the iPod isn't the only source of pride, lol. But joking aside, the difference is that the iPod is successful. It is successful because it struck a chord that turned on the masses. No other company has been able to do this yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted December 9, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 9, 2005 ack ok then I thought this media player was syncing within explorer by making a removeable disk like my old muvo do I have having a software to sync too I own an ipod mini but my wife uses it most of the time hehe so she takes care of the sync.. ack! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgeleven Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Now when Creative releases a new player that has a color screen everyone (read apple fanboys) flips out and goes crazy about how Creative copied iPods UI. Well, they didn't. http://www.betanews.com/article/Creative_T...tent/1125404963 Eat it. Yeah, because no one had come up the idea of automatically filing tracks in a hierarchical order based on attributes of the tracks on a portable music player before. :whistle: "According to one aspect of the present invention, a technique is provided for organizing tracks on a portable music player by automatically filing tracks in a hierarchical order based on attributes of the tracks," patent application 6,928,433 reads."According to another aspect of the invention, the hierarchy is derived by using metadata associated with the audio content that was obtained through any source of metadata (e.g. CDDB metadata, id3v2 metadata, other obtainable metadata) and subsequently stored with or alongside the file that stores the track." Use some common sense. There is no way the Creative patent is valid. I can remember several MP3 players I purchased before 2001 that did this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586897962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fit4130Rider Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 (edited) Um.. they used their UI in 2000. Read the source closer. "The patent was used in Creative's NOMAD Jukebox, which debuted in September 2000. Creative points out that the iPod did not ship for another 13 months." Edited December 9, 2005 by Fit4130Rider Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586898523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybl4ck Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 the ipod is sexy to the masses :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586898559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Ninja Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 w00t! nice ipod killer creative :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/405913-creative-unveils-visionm-video-ipod-killer/page/3/#findComment-586898624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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