Creative unveils Vision:M video iPod killer


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iPod killer, haha, that's a good one. I have had friends who bought Creative Zen/ Touch over the past few months, within 3 months of purchasing, all Creative stuff either needed servicing of some sort or just totally failed.

It's funny but my experience is very similar, except that in my case it was 2 60GB iPods within 3 weeks of purchase.

why are people saying it's too thick? it's about the same size (and weight) as the 4g ipod and NOBODY complained about that being too thick. my friends 4g fits very well in my hand so this one should too

i'm sure someone in this thread complained about price. that isn't fair to creative. apple has a product with a worse screen, battery life, codec support, lacks radio and voice recording, lacks ability to pan and zoom in on pictures, etc. shouldn't a company be allowed to charge more for a product that has more and better features?

or is steve jobs an idiot for charging more for the 60gb ipod than the ipod shuffle?

EDIT:

"Just to update you guys on the price of the Zen Vision:M in Singapore:

Zen Vision:M, Creative Online Price: 599 Singapore Dollars

Zen Vision:M, Retail Store Price: 530 Singapore Dollars

iPod 5G, Apple Online Price: 548 Singapore Dollars

iPod 5G, Retail Store Price: 535 Singapore Dollars

Zen Vision:M, 5 bucks cheaper! "

so many consumers are brainwashed by apples marketing and whats sad that i expected different from people who post on forums like neowin. a lot of us are techies. we research and stay up to date on new technology all the time and still you guys are no better than say, my grandparents :blink:

Edited by psyko_x

so many consumers are brainwashed by apples marketing and whats sad that i expected different from people who post on forums like neowin. a lot of us are techies. we research and stay up to date on new technology all the time and still you guys are no better than say, my grandparents :blink:

um... isnt that why advertisments EXIST???????????

alot of people alrady know the name "iPod" without having even seen it, while others hav no idea what creative, or zen are, and those people are the old dudes

why are people saying it's too thick? it's about the same size (and weight) as the 4g ipod and NOBODY complained about that being too thick. my friends 4g fits very well in my hand so this one should too

i'm sure someone in this thread complained about price. that isn't fair to creative. apple has a product with a worse screen, battery life, codec support, lacks radio and voice recording, lacks ability to pan and zoom in on pictures, etc. shouldn't a company be allowed to charge more for a product that has more and better features?

or is steve jobs an idiot for charging more for the 60gb ipod than the ipod shuffle?

EDIT:

"Just to update you guys on the price of the Zen Vision:M in Singapore:

Zen Vision:M, Creative Online Price: 599 Singapore Dollars

Zen Vision:M, Retail Store Price: 530 Singapore Dollars

iPod 5G, Apple Online Price: 548 Singapore Dollars

iPod 5G, Retail Store Price: 535 Singapore Dollars

Zen Vision:M, 5 bucks cheaper! "

so many consumers are brainwashed by apples marketing and whats sad that i expected different from people who post on forums like neowin. a lot of us are techies. we research and stay up to date on new technology all the time and still you guys are no better than say, my grandparents :blink:

I'm glad someone else other than me actually gets it

um... isnt that why advertisments EXIST???????????

advertisements exist to promote a product and make the consumers aware that it exists. Advertisements shouldn't be founded on brainwash techniques, but unfortunately they seem to be used that way most of all. Apple spends tons of money on advertisements. They put out ads that are cool and fashionable, in fashion magazines and places where technology usually doesn't get promoted. These ads make people want to buy the product, even though they don't know anything about it. Their ads work, my mom told me she wanted an iPod mini one day after seeing an ad. She hardly uses a computer, she had no idea what the thing did other than it looked cool.

People seem to underestimate the affect that advertisements have on uninformed people.

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