Firefox Myths

[sk8er_boi6000]

Whereas the majority of that was in fact true (and the spyware thing goes for opera too, not for FF) he failed to mention that the Mozilla team normally fix bugs and security holes faster than the IE team

[d4t4b0mb]

Can I put the tabs on the bottom of the screen?

I thought so too - but then he advocates using Advant Browser????

Tabs on the bottom? Sure can.

[Mastertech]

he failed to mention that the Mozilla team normally fix bugs and security holes faster than the IE team.

And what Myth would that be associated with? Regardless how fast bugs and security holes are fixed is debateable not to mention proper testing. Throwing a "patch" together and saying something is fixed is not the same as properly testing one.

[Jesse Carlton]

all his pages are full of crap, I like how on his firefox sucks page it has google adds that (naturally) put up adds for firefox.

Firefox is faster, more compliant, and more secure than ie...opera is also faster, more compiant and more secure than ie....the point is, ie is not good, it's just what's used, and people should KNOW they can choose different.

[KoL Veteran]

@ Mastertech: what is your goal with that BS?? I dont think a Firefox user will switch back to IE or any IE engine crap. Anyone that I mention Firefox just love it. Me and a lot of people are going to keep using Firefox and Opera, but mainly Firefox, even on a Mac that I have Safari that is an awesome browser.

[Mastertech]

all his pages are full of crap, I like how on his firefox sucks page it has google adds that (naturally) put up adds for firefox.

You have read all the pages?

Firefox is faster, more compliant, and more secure than ie...

You sure about that?

[primexx]

You have read all the pages?

You sure about that?

positive.

[Matt B]

well when i use opera it was slower then firefox and possibly slower then IE

and yes firefox has many more things you can customize and it is still bloody fast (i load pages instantly.. i dont need any faster then that :p)

[Mastertech]

What is your source that Firefox is faster then IE? The data clearly shows otherwise. Maybe this page is more important than I thought.

well when i use opera it was slower then firefox and possibly slower then IE

So now we are resorting to making things up? Do you have any source to back this up, with reproduceable tests?

[Mr. Jingles]

MasterTech has been on another website I have visited (and we found several others he's been on) posting this exact same crap, with exactly the same argument. All he's doing is trolling and trying to make money off of his Google ads (praise AdBlock, a [gasp] Firefox extension!). He may have 640+ posts here, but he's registered on other sites soley to bash Firefox (if you want a link, I'll gladly show it to you).

And this 'article' has already been addressed by other people:

http://robert.accettura.com/archives/2005/.../firefox-myths/

I really wouldn't bother responding to this thread any more, anyways.

[Cole]

Wow....

That was absolutely horrid, most of the sources have no credibility, and it looks as though alot of fanboyism is going on.

Honestly, the IE Trident Engine is the slowest for me, Gecko is the fastest, and Opera is average.

This one is my favorite:

Myth - "Firefox works with every Web Page"

Reality - 15% of web sites aren't completely compatible with Firefox. Firefox is not 100% Internet Explorer and ActiveX compatible. Web pages that depend on ActiveX or were only tested in Internet Explorer (which there are many) will only render and work properly in Internet Explorer based browsers. Web page features such as Menus, Web forms or other content may not function or behave differently then intended. While Internet Explorer works with 99.99% of all Web Pages. - Source

In a recent study by a UK based web testing firm SciVisum, 1 in 10 UK web sites failed to work properly with Firefox. - Source

Notes - Opera has the same problems as Firefox in regard to web page compatibility.

Ehh, response to that: Most of those sites specifically code for the Trident Engine.

:shiftyninja: if you are going to make a website like this, how about you get some credible sources and get things right!

[Mastertech]

Sources like Secunia and the BBC have no credibility? :laugh: Looks like the Firefox damage control team has moved into action.

[Mr. Jingles]

Okay, maybe I will reply.

http://robert.accettura.com/archives/2005/.../firefox-myths/

Now, if you had actually read the Secunia page on Firefox, you'd notice that it's a DoS and a session hijack vulnerability. That's rather limited in what someone can do to the browser. Next, we check the page on Internet Exploder, and see that there is a vulnerability that can disclose a user's private information, a few phishing risks, one that can detect what files are currently installed, and so on. Compared to the main competitor, Firefox's vulnerabilities are minimal.

And do take a look at my previous reply, as the point still stands.

[d4t4b0mb]

I think you over-estimate your impact or importance. I doubt the "Firefox damage control team" would move into action over some dude trying to generate ad revenue from his glorified blog.

Your views are inconsequential at best, and moreso than anything else, you're just annoying.

[Mastertech]

Okay, maybe I will reply. http://robert.accettura.com/archives/2005/.../firefox-myths/

That link is horrible and the author did not even read the page.

System Requirements - Those are the minimum requirements for IE 6.0 wether he wants to accept it or not.

Firefox is Faster - Did he even read the source? How about you? It clearly shows IE is faster overall and Opera faster then both of them.

Firefox is Secure - The Active X warning system is as clear as you can make it. It clearly warns about installing any Active X controls from untrusted sources. This is no different then installing something from a link in Firefox or an untrusted extension. Oh and he claims extensions are for Advanced users? :laugh:

Firefox is Bug Free - People claim Firefox is perfect all the time. No knowledgeable users do not but knowledgeable users don't spread Myths now do they?

Firefox Tabbed Browsing - He posts a useless quote that doesn't dispute Netcaptor was the first browser to offer tabbed browsing.

Firefox Standards - He claims that no one knows what W3C standards are and they are poorly implemented? :laugh: Come on... This is one of the biggest arguments I hear about FF. FYI the XHTML 1.1 wording has since been corrected.

Firefox Web Page Compatibility - Again he can't disprove anything so he just makes guesses. Where you have another source - the BBC confirming the same thing. He has no case.

I guess some people can get away without backing up anything they say with facts.

Now, if you had actually read the Secunia page on Firefox, you'd notice that it's a DoS and a session hijack vulnerability. That's rather limited in what someone can do to the browser. Next, we check the page on Internet Exploder, and see that there is a vulnerability that can disclose a user's private information, a few phishing risks, one that can detect what files are currently installed, and so on. Compared to the main competitor, Firefox's vulnerabilities are minimal.

And this makes Firefox secure how?

[Lexcyn]

No browser is perfect. They all have security flaws. That web page was a giant advertisement for Opera.

Browser vs. browser wars are ridiculous to no end. Oh wait, e-peen +1?

[JiveMasterT]

when it comes down to it, it is browser preferance. I personally enjoy the look and feel of maxthon. As a bonus, it sits on top of the internet explorer kernel so I get nice features like firefox and opera, with the internet explorer kernal. Before Opera went ad free, I would switch between it and Firefox as firefox still seemed incomplete, but i needed a mozilla based browser to test websites. Now I've grown sick and tired of changing back and forth, Opera got uninstalled, and Firefox remains on my PC for testing, while I use Maxthon. I couldn't deal with the Opera interface... seemed too much of a hassal. firefox is sort of the same in those respects as I can't easily move the toolbars around.

When it comes to security, really what you need to have is a secure user. No matter what browser and operating system you give someone, if they are not careful about what they click on, then they can get a whole slew of viruses, adware, etc. Security is a false feeling on the internet today and only by raising awareness are you going to stop the spread of these sorts of things. No browser can fully protect you from it.

Speed, I could care less. If I gotta waste time trying to figure out how to move stuff around and make things cozy for myself, then where is my 1.00000000000000001 milliseconds in browser load time going? Oh, that's right, it's going towards me getting frustrated because things aren't the way I like them.

Here's a Myth:

There is a perfect browser out there that is totally secure and everyone should use.

False - There is no perfect browser. It is up to the user to find out what they like, what they feel comfortable using, and be aware of the dangers of the internet.

[Joel]

So we're back to promoting our blog and our opinions as fact, are we?

Closed for nonsense