Yuxi Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) The recent discovery of the Sujiatun Death Camp in northeast China has revealed some shocking and disturbing news that organs are being harvested from more than 6,000 live prisoners held inside, all of whom are Falun Gong practitioners, as part of the ongoing persecution against Falun Gong (which believes in and cultivates Truthfulness, Compassion, and Tolerance). This is just one of the many concentration camps located in China where Falun Gong practitioners are held and tortured. The organs are removed and sold for profit while the bodies (some still with breathing and other signs of life) are immediately cremated in the on-site crematorium. There are several articles covering this at: http://www.theepochtimes.com/211,111,,1.html Another article worth looking at: http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-3-21/39537.html A whole website covering the persecution against Falun Gong can be found at http://www.clearwisdom.net/ More information regarding Falun Gong can be found at http://www.falundafa.org/ This cruel and inhumane persecution must be stopped at once! :angry: I know the article is long, but it's very important that more people know about this. Please share this information with your friends and spread the news. Falun Gong Practitioners a Cheap Source of Black Market OrgansIn recent years, international organ buying and selling markets have had extreme shortages. As the world's most populous country with the death penalty, China is beginning to use lethal injections so the executed person's organs cannot be given to hospitals for organ transplants. Since China's illegal organ trade business has been internationally exposed, the United States Congress has held numerous hearings. The international society has requested that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) follow the "use of the dead or executed persons' organs" statute announced in 1990. The statute stipulates that a criminal's organs only be obtained if the person or his or her relatives gave permission, or if the corpse is unclaimed. Due to fewer channels for obtaining human organs, the prices of organs have been high for long periods of time. Since the CCP has ordered the 6-10 Office, a branch specially established to persecute Falun Gong practitioners, to "kill Falun Gong practitioners and call it suicide" and "to ruin their reputation, bankrupt them financially, and destroy them physically," the organs of Falun Gong practitioners who have been tortured to death have become a source of cheap merchandise for this black market. Doctors and Merchants Involved were Deceived An insider told The Epoch Times that the doctors and merchants involved in the purchases of Falun Gong practitioners' organs were told that the organs were from Falun Gong practitioners who "developed insanity from the practice and died" or "became evil after practicing and murdered other people, and therefore were sentenced to death and shot by the authorities." Therefore, the involved parties never found a problem with it nor did they have any moral criticisms about it. Since Sujiatun Concentration Camp sells the organs at cheap prices, international organ buying and selling representatives try to find ways to contact and make deals with Sujiatun. Overseas Chinese also contact relatives in Shenyang City in hopes of buying a cheap kidney from Sujiatun Camp. Some private hospital and health systems workers know that it is possible to buy organs of Falun Gong practitioners from Sujiatun Concentration Camp, where the human organs have no traces of lethal injections. An eyewitness claimed that locals of Sujiatun District regard it [the organ buying] as taboo and are very cautious. The average person there would not even raise the matter. The Stone Crematorium Often Emits White Smoke Sujiatun Concentration Camp is in a hidden place, surrounded by many trees. One eyewitness said, "Now, some roads are blocked in Shenyang City and vehicles are not allowed to pass. There are obstructions on the roads similar to those on the road to Sujiatun. The average car has no way to get close to the camp. In order to avoid suspicion and trouble, we rode in a truck that transported coal to get closer to the concentration camp. We saw the camp crematorium emitting white smoke. No one was around the area and the atmosphere was very scary. A local told me that every time they pass by, they always see smoke emitting from the crematorium." Prisoners' Corpses Immediately Cremated after Organ Removal In the past, international media exposed the secret theft of human organs in China to the international society. The law-violating Public Security Bureau, judges and doctors colluded to steal organs from the dead for transplants and large profits. The organs of some Falun Gong practitioners who were tortured to death were excised. Mysterious holes in blood vessels and cuts on the remains have attracted serious attention. The photo is of Falun Gong practitioner Liu Yufeng, who was beaten to death. (www.clearwisdom.net) [High-resolution image ] The Chinese criminals are often not permitted to contact their family so no one will go to claim the body after the execution. This way, the organs can be removed and the corpse quickly cremated. The CCP requests medical personnel involved to secretly perform the operations, and their operation vehicles cannot have any hospital logos. The doctors are also forbidden to wear their operating clothes on the execution grounds. In addition, the security guards monitor their organ removal surgeries and then cremate the body immediately after. Sujiatun Camp is Very Crowded, but Its Population Kept Secret Currently, Shenyang has many corpse factories and private hospitals purchasing human organs for resale on the international market. The Sujiatun concentration camp has shifted more than 6,000 Falun Gong practitioners and gathered some doctors for the organ removal surgery. In order to eliminate potential evidence, the bodies are cremated. A person who worked at the concentration camp said the workload is ever-increasing. The authorities are continually transferring Falun Gong practitioners there and the jail is crowded and full beyond imagination. It is clearly a place a person cannot live in or withstand to see. Before this disclosure, German anatomist Gunther von Hagens shocked the world with his Body Worlds exhibition, which displayed many plastinated cadavers, and encountered intense condemnation from human rights groups. The media exposed that many of von Hagens' plastified human bodies were executed prisoners from China. Gunther von Hagens also admitted to receiving a corpse with a bullet wound in the head. China is currently has the largest organ trade of any country. Functional organs are sold to hospitals or patients, and the useable bodies were given to Gunther von Hagens and the Institute of Plastination for conversion into preserved specimens and used in the touring Body Worlds exhibition. Wang Bin, a 44-year old Falun Gong practitioner from Heilongjiang Province was mercilessly beaten to death by policemen Feng Xi and others at Daqing Men's Labor Camp on September 24, 2000. Afterwards, his heart and brain were removed, and the remains were placed in the morgue of Daqing People's Hospital. The photo is of Wang Bin's scarred body. (www.clearwisdom.net) Dead Falun Gong Practitioners' Organs "Missing" During the middle of last June, according to a report provided by practitioners of Falun Gong, organs of Falun Gong practitioners who were tortured to death during their imprisonment were stolen for transplant. According to a related people's investigation, blood holes and knife scars were found on some Falun Gong practitioners' bodies that were tortured to death. Some were autopsied without their family members' permission and some victims' organs were excised. Informants revealed that doctors of the Drug Rehabilitation Centre in Baiyun District, Guangzhou City openly "directed" thugs who torture Falun Gong practitioners, "Don't beat them [at the] waist, the kidneys can be used." On February 16, 2001, Ren Pengwu (male, 33 years old), Falun Gong practitioner in Harbin, was arrested for sending materials exposing inconsistencies of the self-immolation case. He was imprisoned at the Second Detention Center in Hulan County, Heilongjiang Province. After five days, on the morning of February 21, he died. Without his family members' agreement, under the guise of legal appraisal, the police excised all Ren Pengwu's body organs, from gullet to genitals, and then illegally cremated the body. Yang Ruiyu, female, was originally an employee of Taijiang District Property Management Bureau in Fuzhou City. On July 19, 2001, she was abducted from her work place by public security staff. She died three days later due to abuse while in custody. The body was sent under police escort all the way to a crematorium. Yang Ruiyu's husband and daughter were not allowed to approach the body. According to witnesses, there was a hollow hole about the size of a fist on Yang Ruiyu's body. The Falun Gong Clearwisdom website has urgently made a call to the international community to pay close attention to the case of Chinese Falun Gong practitioners' organs being stolen. It also called on relatives of victims and people committed to justice to keep records of all evidence of individuals and organizations involved in the crime for the purpose of future lawsuits. Edited January 27, 2007 by Fred Derf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comk Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Is this real? how come it's not found elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemania Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Is this real? how come it's not found elsewhere? I don't know about this particular article but I've posted something similar from NY times and washington post before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linsook Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 how credible are these sources? are you a falung gong member lord flunjace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuxi Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) More and more places are starting to cover it. http://www.ntdtv.com/xtr/eng/aReadArticle.jsp?id=41429 http://www.chinasupport.net/site.php?page=buzz03150601 http://www.indymedia.ie/article/74819 This has also been posted on other forums: http://www.crisscross.com/jp/forum/The_Sec...m_740346/tm.htm http://missionxp.webblogg.se/130306071752_...amp_in_suj.html The problem is how since no one gets out and there's such a big "block" on information, there's very few witnesses who've come forward or any other detailed information coming out for the media to report on. There will be more reports on this soon, just wait and see. Plus, all the other concentration camps and news about the persecution have been reported on national media. how credible are these sources? are you a falung gong member lord flunjace? Yes, I am, and all my experiences have been very positive (greatly improved health (both physical and spiritual). You can check out more information on this great cultivation and see its benefits. Edited March 22, 2006 by Lord Flunjace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linsook Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 More and more places are starting to cover it. http://www.ntdtv.com/xtr/eng/aReadArticle.jsp?id=41429 http://www.chinasupport.net/site.php?page=buzz03150601 http://www.indymedia.ie/article/74819 This has also been posted on other forums: http://www.crisscross.com/jp/forum/The_Sec...m_740346/tm.htm http://missionxp.webblogg.se/130306071752_...amp_in_suj.html The problem is how since no one gets out and there's such a big "block" on information, there's very few witnesses who've come forward or any other detailed information coming out for the media to report on. There will be more reports on this soon, just wait and see. Plus, all the other concentration camps and news about the persecution have been reported on national media. Yes, I am, and all my experiences have been very positive (greatly improved health (both physical and spiritual). You can check out more information on this great cultivation and see its benefits. thanks but you can keep your cult beliefs to yourself, im feelin/doing pretty good as i am now. you obviously have a biased view, but, i will not turn a total blind eye to these 'reports', i will hold my judgment when more credible information appears. thanks for the headsup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuxi Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 I'm not trying to pursuade anyone to believe in or join the meditation or anything like that, I'm just trying to let more people become aware ofthe inhumane and cruel persecution going on in China right now. Thanks for the acknowledgement! :) By the way, more than 9 million people have already quit the chinese communist party so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuxi Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 There's an updated article with an interview with the witness who has come forward: http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2006/3/20/71010.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerhkjp Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I saw a documentary on TV about how Japanese and Korean patients go to China to get transplant surgery done. They do it in military hospitals for high ranking officials. Patients are told not to speak their native language inside the hospital. The feeling of guilt by the patients are non-existant, since they are told that organs have been DONATED by prisoners and conpensation is made to their families. It also helps that patient who go to China are usually desparate. The flip side to this story is that many patients go to China for the transplant, but the hospital cons them by performing surgery WITHOUT replacing the organs. The unknowing patient goes back to their home country and only after a while realises that the surgery had not been performed. I've heard that Us and European patients prefer to go to Eastern European countries to get the same treatment done. Its a sick situation, but how much morale and integrity can you have when you have a week to live, with a life saving option a short plane trip away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuxi Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Yes, I know there's the other side to this (people going to China for surgeries), but you do realize that the main intent behind these camps is to intensify the persecution against Falun Gong practitioners? These organ "transplants" are just that much more convienient for them (they actually get to make money from it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raid517 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I have seen a documentary on the BBC about this before. Here is the BBC news report. It isn't just religious sects they are killing - it's political dissidents too. In some cases you can pay for a transplant, go to China and stay in a hospital that is only a few hundred yards away from a prison. A nice efficient (and apparently very profitable) little operation. GJ 09012da68003ca38_16x9_bb.ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Yea I heard that some time ago too, I don't know how accurate it is, people sell organs for money all over the world Hope its at least done with consent (shudder) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuxi Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 Hope its at least done with consent (shudder) Technically, there is supposed to be consent. However, knowing what the Chinese government is doing to torture the practitioners in all the other prisons and camps, we don't know under what conditions the consent was given. If someone asked for your consent while pointing a gun at your head and threatening to keep shocking you with electric batons, hang and beat you up everyday, and otherwise torture you for years and kill you eventually anyway, what would you say? :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuxi Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 (edited) New articles worth reading: A Personal Experience in Organ Extraction from a Live Prisoner http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-3-23/39632.html The Media's Silence on the Sujiatun Death Camp http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-3-23/39612.html From "Live Bone Marrow Theft" to Sujiatun Concentration Camp http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2006/3/23/71117.html France International Broadcasting Station: Falun Gong Practitioners' Body Organs Harvested in Sujiatun Concentration Camp http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2006/3/23/71106.html Also, many protests around the world have started, including Seattle, Hong Kong, Russia, Taiwan, and other locations. Edited March 24, 2006 by Lord Flunjace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
em_te Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I just got here after reading the stem cells morality debate. Anyways, if the prisoners (embryos) are going to die anyway, then why not cultivate their organs (extract stem cells) to save other lives (research). ;) Catch my drift... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerhkjp Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I just got here after reading the stem cells morality debate. Anyways, if the prisoners (embryos) are going to die anyway, then why not cultivate their organs (extract stem cells) to save other lives (research). ;) Catch my drift... Good point. I guess if the prisoners, no matter how innocent they seem to us, are going to be executed under Chinese law, then their remains are fair game. Or is it? :cry: I guess I have a problem with why the prisoner is being executed, more so than how their remains are used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Bourricot Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Good point. I guess if the prisoners, no matter how innocent they seem to us, are going to be executed under Chinese law, then their remains are fair game. Or is it? :cry: I guess I have a problem with why the prisoner is being executed, more so than how their remains are used. I think it's because they're linked - the prisonners are killed BECAUSE they have organs that can be harvested. Similar to the Castrati - the Catholic Church turned a blind eye, saying "well it's been done now, we might as well use them". It's this kind of thinking which allows it to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bei337 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 To op: Wow...will you guys EVER stop this ****? First the 200 mails per day spam on Yahoo mails, and now this... I'm tired of you. All I can say is if you are good and innocent as you said you are, then there is no need of propaganda, people will realize the Chinese oppression and side with you. But what have you really done except for disrupting public and government? Sorry, had to let it out. I wouldn't be as mad if they didn't cause me to change mailboxes nearly every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azusa Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 you break the law then you should rly give something back more than your freedom and time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Yea, but would you really want Ted Bundy's liver? Or some of Ed Gein's skin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Good point. I guess if the prisoners, no matter how innocent they seem to us, are going to be executed under Chinese law, then their remains are fair game. Or is it? :cry: I guess I have a problem with why the prisoner is being executed, more so than how their remains are used. News update (or not). Japan has capital punishment. There's gov't propaganda, and then there's propaganda published by a bunch of lunatics. I choose to believe neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerhkjp Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 News update (or not). Japan has capital punishment. There's gov't propaganda, and then there's propaganda published by a bunch of lunatics. I choose to believe neither. What does Japan have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 So when someone is executed in Japan, everything is ok? When China's doing it, uh oh, call the world police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 The article, and it's author, is not credible at all. I would also like to advise everyone that said Lord Flunjace's credibility on this matter is also zero. This is coming from someone who is not in favour of many things China is doing. Also note that I am not endorsing the credibility of the Chinese government in any manner whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnerhkjp Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 This issue has been going on for a while now. Its not like it just now blew open. US government has been pushing for transparency in the name of human rights. An example @Monkeh I'm just saying that the circumstances surrounding the executions in China are suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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