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This is for the hip-hop fans here at Neowin to share our lists, good MCs, etc. Just a general discussion of good (or bad ;)) hip-hop music :)

THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR TROLLS TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS UPON THE GENRE.

Sorry but that caveat must be posted every single time a hip-hop thread is made.

To start us off:

1. Dr. Dre is the most overrated producer ever.

2. Here is my gigantic list of good hip-hop albums

A Tribe Called Quest - Beats, Rhymes And Life

A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders

A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm

A Tribe Called Quest - The Love Movement

A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory

Aceyalone - A Book Of Human Language

Aceyalone - All Balls Don't Bounce

Aceyalone - Magnificent City

Aesop Rock - Daylight

Aesop Rock - Labor Days

Atmosphere - God Loves Ugly

Atmosphere - Lucy Ford The Atmosphere EP's

Atmosphere - Overcast!

Atmosphere - Seven's Travels

Atmosphere - You Can't Imagine How Much Fun We're Having

Beanie Sigel - The B. Coming

Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill

Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique

Beastie Boys - To the 5 Boroughs

Big Daddy Kane - Long Live The Kane

Big Daddy Kane - Looks Like A Job For

Big Pooh - Sleepers

Big L - Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous

Big L - The Big Picture

Binary Star - Masters of the Universe

Biz Markie - The Best Of Cold Chillin'

Black Eyed Peas - Behind The Front

Black Eyed Peas - Bridging The Gap

Black Mountain - Black Mountain

Black Sheep - A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing

Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow

Blackalicious - Nia

Blackalicious - The Craft

Blackalicious - A2G (EP)

Blockhead - Music By Cavelight

Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded

Boogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary

Brother Ali - Champion (EP)

Brother Ali - Shadows On The Sun

Buckshot & 9th Wonder - Chemistry

Cage - Hell's Winter

Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein

Cee-Lo - Cee-Lo Green? Is The Soul Machine

Charizma & Peanut Butter Wolf - Big Shots

cLOUDDEAD - cLOUDDEAD

Common - Like Water for Chocolate

Common - One Day It'll All Make Sense

Common - Resurrection

Common - Be

Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus

Cool Calm Pete - Lost

Count Bass D - Dwight Spitz

D.I.T.C. - D.I.T.C.

Danger Mouse - The Grey Album

Danger Mouse & Jemini - Ghetto Pop Life

Dangerdoom - The Mouse And The Mask

Das EFX - Dead Serious

De La Soul - 3 Feet High And Rising

De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead

De La Soul - Stakes Is High

De La Soul - AOI:Bionix

De La Soul - The Grind Date

Dead Prez - 2000 - Lets Get Free

Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - Both Sides Of The Brain

Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - I Wish My Brother George Was Here

Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030

Digable Planets - Blowout Comb

Digable Planets - Reachin' (A New Refutation Of Time And Space)

Dilated Peoples - The Platform

Dilated Peoples - Expansion Team

Diverse - One A.M

Dizzee Rascal - Showtime

Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner

DJ Jazzy Jeff - The Magnificent

DJ Shadow - Endtroducing? [2005 Deluxe Edition]

DJ Shadow & Cut Chemist - Brainfreeze

DJ Z-Trip & DJ P - Uneasy Listening Volume 1

Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst

Edan - Beauty And The Beat

Edan - Primitive Plus

El-P - Fantastic Damage

EPMD - Strictly Business

EPMD - Unfinished Business

EPMD - Business Never Personal

Eric B. & Rakim - Follow The Leader

Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full

Eyedea & Abilities - E&A

Gang Starr - Daily Operation

Gang Starr - Step In The Arena

Gang Starr - Hard To Earn

Gang Starr - The Ownerz

Genius/GZA - Liquid Swords

Ghostface Killah - Ironman

Ghostface Killah - The Pretty Toney Album

Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele

Ghostface Killah - Fishscale

Gorillaz - Demon Days

Grandmaster Flash - Adventures On The Wheels Of Steel (compilation album)

Guru - Jazzmatazz Volume 1

Handsome Boy Modeling School - So? How's Your Girl

Hieroglyphics - 3rd Eye Vision

J Dilla/Jay Dee - Donuts

J Dilla/Jay Dee - Welcome 2 Detroit

Jaylib - Champion Sound

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt

Jay-Z - The Black Album

Jay-Z - The Blueprint

Jay-Z - Unplugged

Jean Grae - The Bootleg Of The Bootleg (EP)

Jeru The Damaja - The Sun Rises In The East

Jurassic 5 - Power In Numbers

Jurassic 5 - Quality Control

Kano - Home Sweet Home

Kanye West - The College Dropout

Kanye West - Late Registration

King Geedorah - Take Me to Your Leader

KMD - Bl_ck B_st_rds

Kool Moe Dee - How Ya Like Me Now

KRS-One - KRS-One

KRS-One - 1997 - I Got Next

Kurtis Blow - The Best Of Kurtis Blow

Kurtis Blow - Best Of Rappin

Lady Sovereign - Vertically Challenged (EP)

Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

Lauryn Hill - MTV Unplugged

Latyrx - The Album

Lifesavas - Spirit In Stone

Little Brother - The Listening

Little Brother - The Minstrel Show

Lootpack - Soundpieces Da Antidote!

Lyrics Born - Later That Day

Lyrics Born - Same !@# Different Day

Madlib - Shades Of Blue

Madlib - Mind Fusion Vol. 2

Madlib - Beat Konducta: Movie Scenes Vol. 1 - 2

Madvillain - Madvillainy

Maker - Shooting The Breeze

Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer

Masta Ace - Disposable Arts

MF Doom - Operation Doomsday

MF Doom - MM..Food

Mos Def - Black On Both Sides

Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Black Star

Murs - ?The End Of The Beginning

Murs - Murs 3:16 (9th Edition)

Murs And Slug - Felt 2 - A Tribute To Lisa Bonet

Nas - Illmatic

Nujabes - Modal Soul

Oh No - The Disrupt

OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below

Peanut Butter Wolf - My Vinyl Weighs A Ton

People Under The Stairs - O.S.T

People Under The Stairs - Question In The Form Of An Answer

People Under The Stairs - Stepfather

Pete Rock - Soul Survivor

Pete Rock - Soul Survivor II

Pete Rock - PeteStrumentals

Pete Rock - The Surviving Elements

Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - Mecca And The Soul Brother

Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - The Main Ingredient

Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher

Public Enemy - Apocalypse 91? The Enemy Strikes Black

Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back

Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet

Public Enemy - Yo! Bum Rush The Show

Q-Tip - Amplified

Q-Tip - Kamaal The Abstract

Quasimoto - The Further Adventures of Lord Quas

Quasimoto - The Unseen

Rip Slyme - Tokyo Classic

RJD2 - Dead Ringer

RJD2 - Since We Last Spoke

RJD2 - Your Face Or Your Kneecaps

Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand

Run The Road

Run-D.M.C. - King Of Rock

Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell

Run-D.M.C. - Run-D.M.C

Schooly D - Adventures Of

Slick Rick - The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick

Slick Rick - The Ruler's Back

Slum Village - Fantastic, Vol. 1

Slum Village - Fantastic, Vol. 2

Soul Position - 8 Million Stories

Soul Position - Unlimited (EP)

Souls Of Mischief - '93 'Til Infinity

Sway - This Is My Demo

T.I. - King

Talib Kweli - Quality

Talib Kweli - Right About Now

Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek - Reflection Eternal

Teriyaki Boyz - Beef Or Chicken [Preemptive arguement: look at the producers!!!]

The Avalanches - Since I Left You

The Foreign Exchange - Connected

The Mitchell Brothers - A Breath Of Fresh Attire

The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde

The Poets of Rhythm - Discern Define

The Roots - Illadelph Halflife

The Roots - Organix

The Roots - Phrenology

The Roots - Things Fall Apart

The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free

The Streets - Original Pirate Material

The Streets - The Hardest Way To Make An Easy Living

The Sugarhill Records Story

Time Machine - Slow Your Roll

Typical Cats - Typical Cats

Typical Cats - Civil Service

Ugly Duckling - Fresh Mode

Ugly Duckling - Journey To Anywhere

Ugly Duckling - Taste The Secret

Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown

Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain

Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)

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i came in here with a negative attitude but your list looks good

i cant udnerstand why i dont see any 2pac of biggie on their

todays hip hop isnt what it used to be...its all about money, "bling", drugs and "hoes" the older more original stuff, alot of what i listened to as i gre up had a story or some sort of message to it...it had a true feeling even if the message was negative it told life as it was, at the time when black people didnt have the respect they have today...and thats what hip hop and rap was about now its just a bunch of wanna be's trying to make money...i noticed kanye was in their...he imo is one of the only true artists out there...he doesnt rap about what is cool or popular and he brings his own style to the genre

But anyway enough ranting...nice list :D

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jokeripa

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Thats a long list. But Jay-Z is the greatest rapper ever...period.

Nah not the best ever.... great freestyler though.

I'm happy with:

Dre

Tribe

Beastie Boys

Big L

Big daddy Kane

Dizzee Rascal

Jay z

KRS one

Public Enemy

Run DMC

Wu-tang

The rest I havent heard or arent that great.

But WHAT THE HELL is The Streets and Gorillaz doing there!

Off the top of my head I feel: Busta Rhymes, early Eminem, me (kiddin :p), Papoose, Bone Thugs, Plan B, Cypress Hill and Nas should be there. And ofcourse the usual pac and biggie stuff...

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But WHAT THE HELL is The Streets and Gorillaz doing there!

Off the top of my head I feel: Busta Rhymes, early Eminem, me (kiddin :p), Papoose, Bone Thugs, Plan B, Cypress Hill and Nas should be there. And ofcourse the usual pac and biggie stuff...

You say no Streets but you put up Plan B? Um... Right.

Lets see The Streets have at the very least 2 classic albums (OPM, A Grand...) both of which have critically come up high, with the latest one coming up critically high. While Plan B is just a british eminem.

I've never heard Cypress Hill and don't really care to because from what I read they didn't do much for the culture, same goes for Bone Thugs.

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Cypress hill does not compare to Bone Thugs n Harmony. What Bone Thugs brought to the game was harmony in there voice and there laid back style. They have several hit albums that are classics, and they have several hit songs that are non-violence and non-weed songs. Example, If I Could Teach The World, First of The Month, Days of Our Lives.

Bone Thugs N Harmony - Greatest Rap Group Ever

If you interested you can listen and watch there videos on youtube if you wanna try them out. Other than that your list looks complete. But have you tried Immortal Technique?

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Everybody rants and raves about him but I just can't get into him for some reason.

heheh same for me, that was a huge reality blast to my face when i first heard him. Especially Dance With The Devil. His freestyle and songs are so unrestricted. I've gotten use to it though...hehehe

Also Little Brother - The Chitlin Circuit 1.5 is a very good album. I like that more than the Minstrel Show =)

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You say no Streets but you put up Plan B? Um... Right.

Lets see The Streets have at the very least 2 classic albums (OPM, A Grand...) both of which have critically come up high, with the latest one coming up critically high. While Plan B is just a british eminem.

All the streets do is LITERALLY talk over beats.

You obviously havent heard much Plan B also.

EDIT: Anybody wanna drop freestyles?

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Grr.. You are forgeting Lupe Fiasco! I'm obsessed with his music and his style. I don't know why but, this guy is real good.

Here is a link to his LEGAL mixtape collection

http://boards.atlanticrecords.com/artists/...63/m/1451075983

Remember the word LEGAL!

LEGAL!

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xxdesmus

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Thats a long list. But Jay-Z is the greatest rapper ever...period.

lol... I am sorry, but that is just funny. :whistle: :|

Just to name a few for now:

(*) = my big ones...

Nas (*)

2 Pac

Biggie

Talib Kweli (*)

Kanye West

Canibus

Clipse (*)

NWA

Run DMC

Eric B. and Rakim

Dr. Dre

Immortal Technique

Jedi Mind Tricks (*)

Q-Tip (*)

Busta Rhymes

Mos Def (*)

Eminem

7L and Esoteric

Outkast (*)

9th Wonder (*)

Common

MF Doom

Wu-Tang (yes, all of them) (*)

Dilated People

De la Soul

Roots

Tribe Called Quest (*)

KRS-One

Raekwon

Little Brother (*)

Slum Village (*)

Obie Trice

Pharoahe Monch

Fugees

thank god no one tried to mention "the game" ... :laugh:

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Heeeeeeelllllllllll no!!!! wifa capitol NO!

pac, genius... lyrical master..period,

public enemy, watched'em in Dublin this year, electric..real old skool.

Hate the whole eminem BS Pop Sh1t.

Boy, u tryin to jack ma name??

Ohh snap, thats jokes.

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My list goes like this (off the top of my head):

T.I.

Sway

Papoose

Biggie

Fort Minor

Cypress Hill

De La Soul

Dre

Em

Bone Thugs

Nas

Kanye West

Immortal Technique

Freeway

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All the streets do is LITERALLY talk over beats.

You obviously havent heard much Plan B also.

EDIT: Anybody wanna drop freestyles?

I never said he was a good rapper ;) this thread is about good hip-hop. Personally I love his production esthetics and the way he tells stories. I'd say being able to spin a good yarn is much more important than how it comes out.

thank god no one tried to mention "the game" ... :laugh:

Technically he has the skills to be great but lyrically he is an idiot. If he can step up his lyrics, than I am sure he will become a "great one".

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