Lost - Season Three

[Hurmoth]

Interesting story here...

'Lost' loses footage in airport blunder

Film from ABC's hit show "Lost" was ruined when security employees at the Honolulu International Airport accidentally X-rayed the canisters despite warnings labels asking them not to.

The show's crew had to reshoot the scenes because there were no copies.

"This is the first time anything like this has happened," said state Film Commissioner Donne Dawson, adding that steps have been taken to prevent a repeat of the incident.

The loss will not affect the broadcast schedule for the popular show, according to co-executive producer Jean Higgins.

Higgins declined to say how much the gaffe cost ABC.

"That's proprietary information between us and the insurance company," she said. "We've already reshot. We are still on schedule."

Having to reshoot film is a monumental issue, said Anne Misawa, a local film producer and instructor at the University of Hawai'i Academy for Creative Media. A reshoot involves paying added costs for actors and venues.

For a commercial, those costs could easily top $100,000, and for a big-budget production such as "Lost," a reshoot could be more expensive. "You have to redo everything related to the production of the damaged dailies," Misawa said.

"Lost" reportedly spends $1.5 million to $2 million or more per episode with about 200 full- and part-time workers. Normally it takes about eight days to shoot an episode of "Lost." So if one day's worth of film was destroyed, the cost could be close to $200,000.

A commercial for Bank of Hawaii also was accidentally X-rayed and ruined on the same day the "Lost" film was X-rayed.

The incidents occurred when the film canisters were mistakenly mixed with passenger luggage and then sent through an X-ray machine. The canisters were left unattended at X-ray machines along with other non-film cargo. The film apparently was then thrown in with piles of passenger luggage without regard for the warning labels indicating not to X-ray the sensitive contents within.

According to an informational Web site run by the film office, the mistake occurred following a new Transportation Security Administration cargo security directive that requires that all small cargo packages traveling on passenger planes be screened by air carriers via an explosive detection system or explosive trace detection system.

Explosive trace detection testing involves TSA agents swiping items with cotton pads then testing the pads in a machine that detects explosive residue. That test would not destroy film.

Film shot in Hawai'i typically is sent to the Mainland for processing.

The state film office said it has worked with TSA and United Airlines to put a new process in place that will prevent future accidents.

"The issue has been addressed, and they have procedures in place to make sure it doesn't happen again," said Dawson, the state film commissioner.

News Source: The Honolulu Advertiser

[Rappy Veteran]

Yeah I read about that Hurmoth...shocking really...:(...at least they could redo the scenes...

[Hurmoth]

Yeah I read about that Hurmoth...shocking really...:(...at least they could redo the scenes...

You'd think a group like ABC would know better to ship something as important as this without making at least one copy if not more.

[Rappy Veteran]

You'd think a group like ABC would know better to ship something as important as this without making at least one copy if not more.

Yeah what would of happened if say someone hijacked them or it was lost and fell into the wrong hands...they could leak it...dodgy way of transporting it tbh :pinch:

[ECEGatorTuro]

You'd think a group like ABC would know better to ship something as important as this without making at least one copy if not more.

Yeah what would of happened if say someone hijacked them or it was lost and fell into the wrong hands...they could leak it...dodgy way of transporting it tbh :pinch:

Uhh guys, you're talking about FILM. You can't exactly copy film, especially since it hadn't even been processed yet!!! Once it's developed, then you can make copies but even then, I'm sure it is a much more costlier method than, say a digital transfer.

X-rays (especially strong ones such as baggage scanners) will 'fog' up unprocessed/undevelopped film because the film is very sensitive to that!

As as far as transportation methods, you'd be surprised how much valuable, IP-sensitive, material passes through carriers like UPS, FedEx, etc.

[Captain_Wang]

Anyone else kind of glad the flashbacks are a lot shorter now, not so distracting.

[Rappy Veteran]

Sublymonal Message in Carls Brainwashing Video

You have to listen to that...its about 23 seconds in...its some right creepy stuff :s

Another Video of "Sublymonal" Message

[Hurmoth]

Uhh guys, you're talking about FILM. You can't exactly copy film, especially since it hadn't even been processed yet!!! Once it's developed, then you can make copies but even then, I'm sure it is a much more costlier method than, say a digital transfer.

X-rays (especially strong ones such as baggage scanners) will 'fog' up unprocessed/undevelopped film because the film is very sensitive to that!

As as far as transportation methods, you'd be surprised how much valuable, IP-sensitive, material passes through carriers like UPS, FedEx, etc.

Then they need to start filming in some other method, either that or start the editing process in Hawaii instead of California. There has to be a way to prevent this from happening.

And yes, I know the things that are shipped through postal carriers. My dad works for the United States Postal Service, in what they call the red room, which is where anything that's insured over $1,000,000 goes through. He's told me some of the stuff that has gone through there, so it doesn't surprise me that they shipped it this way, it just surprises me that they didn't have some kind of backup plan without having to reshoot an entire scene.

Which would be cheaper, reshooting a days worth of film at the cost of $200,000 or finding some way of making a copy of what was already shot?

Anyone else kind of glad the flashbacks are a lot shorter now, not so distracting.

Seemed the same to me :blink: I personally love the flashbacks. I really enjoy getting the background stories of these characters. I hope to see more of Juliet's story in the future.

[Rappy Veteran]

I hope to see more of Juliet's story in the future.

I Would love to see her go to the Island...like the day she arrived...that would be amazing...just to see how Mittelos got her out there :)

[lol911]

They should start shooting digitally, but maybe that is beyond their scope of production.

[sundayx Veteran]

But if you consider the cost of having make backups of everything that is produced, the cost of that is probably much higher than what occurred, considering the production crew have not experienced this before. the chances of occurrence does not justify the cost of having everything reproduced. Besides, isnt it mentioned that the insurance would cover some of the cost for reproduction? At least they have insurance...

[Rob2687]

The more copies there are the more likely it is to fall into the wrong hands.

[Hurmoth]

The more copies there are the more likely it is to fall into the wrong hands.

Which is more important: (1) spending an extra $200,000 to reshoot a whole day's worth of filming because there weren't copies or (2) an episode leaking out, which won't keep people from watching the episode, nor will it stop sponsors from giving large sums of money to ABC to sponsor the show?

[Rappy Veteran]

Which is more important: (1) spending an extra $200,000 to reshoot a whole day's worth of filming because there weren't copies or (2) an episode leaking out, which won't keep people from watching the episode, nor will it stop sponsors from giving large sums of money to ABC to sponsor the show?

Yeah look at 24...the first 4 episodes leaked but the premiere was still really big ratings wise so I don't think a leaking episode or 2 would effect the show...

[y_notm]

Which is more important: (1) spending an extra $200,000 to reshoot a whole day's worth of filming because there weren't copies or (2) an episode leaking out, which won't keep people from watching the episode, nor will it stop sponsors from giving large sums of money to ABC to sponsor the show?

The film was insured, so ABC probably didn't have to pay too much to do reshoots. The worst that could really happen is that an episode could be delayed a week or so.

[Rappy Veteran]

From Wednesdays Episode a great collage...some of these things are just to mad....each must have a significance :s

[Hurmoth]

The film was insured, so ABC probably didn't have to pay too much to do reshoots. The worst that could really happen is that an episode could be delayed a week or so.

What about the amount of time it takes to reshoot an entire day's worth filming? Insurance won't cover that.

[jokeripa]

From Wednesdays Episode a great collage...some of these things are just to mad....each must have a significance :s

Wow, some people this take this very seriously....

[Rappy Veteran]

Wow, some people this take this very seriously....

:laugh: So True.... *Looks at himself for having a Lost Blog*

[acies]

I think.. there might be something weird happening on the island :shifty: .... Run Lost characters!! RUN!!

[Neztea]

Hmm, this lost episode has got me thinking.

(sorry, this may be a spoiler and i apologies, Do not read further unless you want to)

So, Apparently Alex (the girl who helped them off the island) is technically the daughter of Ben. But, For every father, there has to be a mother. Now, My theory is that the French Woman (you know, the crazy one.. what ever happened to her?) and Ben were both on the boat together that was sponsored by the project. These 2 individuals were romantically involved with each other therefor forming Alex. But then Ben kidnapped alex from her (I'm saying experiment of some sort) and french woman went crazy because she was against the project to begin with. And lets say Ben Lied to Alex that her mother died and doesn't know that the french woman is the mother.

Also, The whole Drug Thing that was involved with this episode. Could it be the Desmon and the "others" lets say, were taking this drug in order to determine the side effects? Perhaps Desmon is pregnant due to the whole "getting male field mice pregnant ). Cause they were' taking it day in and day out so you may never know. Also, It could also be the very same drug to help claire out with her pregnancy, or maybe claire wasn't even pregnant until she took the drug earlier on (in a dream sequence/flash back) therefore the father isn't with her and would explain why the child is so very important to the project and so on.

Sigh, Still, So many questions unanswered! like my favorite

- Desmons apparent Abilities.

- what ever happened to the 2 african americans that got off the island?

- Jacks New role with the others.

- Will sawyer and Kate make a huge comback with the rest of the crew and save jack, dispite his attempts to tell them not to?

- The Purple Sky, the bright flash that demolished the bunker.

- The black smoke

- The apparent huge statue that they saw from the boat.

- The dinosaur that ate the pilot (yes, that still bugs the hell out of me) <- or was it the smoke creature?

- Talking birds.

and there are so many more that are in my head, but i don't want to write it out..

Neztea

[Blackice]

So, Apparently Alex (the girl who helped them off the island) is technically the daughter of Ben.

Nope. when the Others kidnapped Alex as a baby, Ben adopted her as his daughter. She doesn't know he's not her father. Ben didn't come to the island with Rosseau - she killed all her crew, and Ben was already there, as he's been on the island his entire life.

Could it be the Desmon and the "others" lets say, were taking this drug

huh? Where did that come from?

or maybe claire wasn't even pregnant until she took the drug earlier on (in a dream sequence/flash back) therefore the father isn't with her and would explain why the child is so very important to the project and so on.

Nope, she was pregnant before she even got on the plane.

- Will sawyer and Kate make a huge comback with the rest of the crew and save jack, dispite his attempts to tell them not to?

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- Talking birds.

Yes, they will go back and try to save him. I don't know what talking birds you're talking about. I haven't seen any.

[Rappy Veteran]

Yes, they will go back and try to save him. I don't know what talking birds you're talking about. I haven't seen any.

He could be on about the Hurley Bird.

[Neztea]

Alright, So Ben adopted Her. Thats good to know. (where exactly in the series was that revealed to us? I want to look it up)

For the Drug, those injections that they were taking periodically when they were in the hatch. That drug. Also, In what episode showed us that Claire was infact pregnant before she got onto the plane. What I was thinking was that in a flashback she was a part of the experiments as well to get her pregnant without the biological father (hence why its holy, the virgin mary had a child when she did not have intercourse). It kind of is peiced together by charlies vision of the child and the angels and whatnot.

And yes, I was talking about the Hurley Bird :) Thnx.

Neztea

[Pc_Madness]

Alright, So Ben adopted Her. Thats good to know. (where exactly in the series was that revealed to us? I want to look it up)

It wasn't, but it makes sense. :)