Hupp Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I think Jacob is held captive by Ben and that black powder like substance is what keeps him there. That is why he asked Locke to help him, I think the finale will have Locke freeing him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benac Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 This is gonna be out there, but maybe black powder stuff is the smoke? Controlled by Jacob? Whoa, Good theory...Wouldn't that be something? I think Jacob is held captive by Ben and that black powder like substance is what keeps him there. That is why he asked Locke to help him, I think the finale will have Locke freeing him. Even better theory. But Locke doesn't believe in Jacob. Excellent episode. What the hell kind of gas was that? Insta-Death? Pull the pin and everyone dies. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 while laying there shot, he may have different thoughts about jacob :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I believe the sickness that has come up in previous episodes was in fact the canister ben released. It adds up too... desmond from the looks of it worked with a dharma person pushing the button, and when his friend went outside to retrieve supplies he (just like all the other dharma people) was killed from the "sickness" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benac Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) I believe the sickness that has come up in previous episodes was in fact the canister ben released. I thought that was fairly obvious (Not to be an ass). The "Purge". Edited May 10, 2007 by benac Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
remix17 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Ben's mother was the smokey right? It somehow absorbs memories (in this case Ben's father) and creates illusions for people to see. This is the general consensus isn't it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted May 10, 2007 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 10, 2007 Ben's mother was the smokey right? It somehow absorbs memories (in this case Ben's father) and creates illusions for people to see. This is the general consensus isn't it? Yeah thats what i think. Same thing happened to Eko, he saw dead people in his past that apeared on the island thats gotta be smokey. Just a wtf moment. That just happened in a second, Locke will live but i wonder who will rescue him? . Was that power stuff peoples ashes? Locke, smelt it and tasted it. I reckon who ever said above that Ben is holding Jacob prisoner is a good theory. Jacob could be the "heart" of the island. Yet more questions raise. Why was there a purge? How did the Dharma van end up where Hurley found it? Richard not aging? Awesome episode, best episode of the season so far. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Was it just me or did it look like Horace still looked young at the very end of the episode also? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I think Jacob is held captive by Ben and that black powder like substance is what keeps him there. That is why he asked Locke to help him, I think the finale will have Locke freeing him. yes thats exactly what i though, isnt there something about using circles of salt to trap or repel ghost/spirits? i googled it but couldnt find anything. but if Jacob is a spirit were is his body....? or what happened to him. I still think lost has some sort of "purgatory" or "heaven/hell" theory to it.. as they continue with the biblical references.. such as Jacob being the top dog, i'm not really a religious guy but wasn't Jacob Jesus' father? ya, thats also the conclution me and my parents have come too, notice it never shows how the people that wernt in accidents before they showed up got there. like Juliet was drugged, they could of killed her in her sleep or something. since if it is purgatory you would have to die to get there, or maybe a coma? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pallab Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I wonder why Jacob said to Locke help me...someone needs to freeze frame Jacob in there because I swear we saw him for a split second!!! Freeze Frame of Jacob taken from BuddyTV Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solth Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 so did Ben shoot Locke because he was Jealous that Jacob spoken to Locke since Ben thought he was the only one that Jacob talked to? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Damn I missed Evangelline Lilly on Jimmy Kimmel last night Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Guru Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 All you X-Files fans should know that Salt is protection against the undead. Interesting theory. But it's not salt, it's ashes of some sort, like someone else mentioned, probably human. Ben can't hear Jacob - he was pretending to. Probably holding him prisoner, pretending to take orders though he cannot see nor here himself - because he had no clue what he said to Locke.... Then again, he did know he was in the chair, didn't he? It was so weird, for a second before the gunshot, I just -knew- what was going to happen, I wanted Locke to get his gun out and shoot Ben up.... Something to note: Ben was in charge of the hostiles. Doesn't make ANY sense ta all. He says he defected, yet after the "purge," Richard came to take orders from him (should we bring the body back?). Why would Richard, a powerful "hostile" be taking orders from one of the lone defecters? I believe its because unlike the rest of the "hostiles," Ben saw Smokey/Jacob/Whatever as his mother - he was "special" just like Locke now is. Makes sense. Ben is no longer special because Locke is his successor. "He manipulates people" Ben manipulated Locke into believing HE was making him go to Jacob, when Ben wanted to do the ultimate test: can Ben see/hear Jacob? If he can, he is the new "Champion" and Ben couldn't let that happen. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Jacob's hair looks like Ben's - though his nose looks like Mikhail. JediXAngel, I agree with you, there is absoloutely NOTHING after the X-File mytharc episodes. The standalone episodes were beyond-great too, all of them, but some just were terrible because it wast the X-Files and not a comedy show. Though I agree, nothing comes close to even the lamest mytharc one :) I watch Lost because it's a decent show, and everything else because there's nothing else to watch (Law and Order, Without a Trace.. Raines) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588541991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellydoom Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 omg that episode was awesome. some answers were finally given. just as the episode was starting even before lockes mom called her husband roger i thought wait what if roger was bens dad then it was confirmed was slightley weird lol. lmao at locke beating the hell out of patchy aswell lol. if only eko was still alive then the others wouldnt have a chance eko>>>you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomZ Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 One of the first things I thought of when locke noticed that "ash" was volcanic ash, as the teacher mentioned there was a volcanic eruption on the island at some point. Whatever it is, it was definitely laid out in a specific circle. So I think Jacob will save Locke, maybe even speak to him through smokey and Locke will free him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 People are saying that Richard doesn't age. I'm not so sure that's necessarily the case. There are plenty of ways to make an actor look older, but making an actor look younger is a tough sell. The long hair and hippy-ish clothes might have been the signal that we were looking at a younger Richard. I just think, that if the show was going to imply that Richard doesn't age, they wouldn't have changed his appearance at all and made a more direct reference to that fact. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Guru Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 That's not possible. Ben was what, 10? 10 + 35 (ben's what, 45 now?) Richard doesn't age. Better believe it :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Good point. Hmm. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted May 10, 2007 Author Share Posted May 10, 2007 That's not possible.Ben was what, 10? 10 + 35 (ben's what, 45 now?) Richard doesn't age. Better believe it :) Bingo. Richard's lack of aging is a reference to The Lost Boys as suggested earlier in "The Other 48 Days" with the teddy bear. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Guru Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Yeah, I couldn't help but feel that all that pharoah eye-shadow was to make sure he'd be easily identifiable to the viewers. When we saw Richard of 30 years back, it was him - that eye shadow is unmistakable. If they really wanted him to look different, that's pretty much guaranteed to do the trick. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted May 10, 2007 Author Share Posted May 10, 2007 I just thought of something... the whispers that can be heard on the island, that are asking for help (if I remember correctly). Maybe these are the lost souls of those killed by the Others. Just like Jacob asked for help in a whisper to Locke, maybe there are more our there that cannot be seen, but can be heard by some. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfF3nSiV3 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Something to note:Ben was in charge of the hostiles. Doesn't make ANY sense ta all. He says he defected, yet after the "purge," Richard came to take orders from him (should we bring the body back?). Why would Richard, a powerful "hostile" be taking orders from one of the lone defecters? I believe its because unlike the rest of the "hostiles," Ben saw Smokey/Jacob/Whatever as his mother - he was "special" just like Locke now is. it was ben's father..just a matter of respect to the treat the body Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Bingo. Richard's lack of aging is a reference to The Lost Boys as suggested earlier in "The Other 48 Days" with the teddy bear. Would you mind expanding on that? I'm not following. Yeah, I couldn't help but feel that all that pharoah eye-shadow was to make sure he'd be easily identifiable to the viewers.When we saw Richard of 30 years back, it was him - that eye shadow is unmistakable. If they really wanted him to look different, that's pretty much guaranteed to do the trick. What's odd is that he's always had that thick eyeliner, regardless of what role he's playing and what show he's on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdmcmahon Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I just think it is totally bad ass that Uncle Rico is Ben's dad :) He is also the same guy who played Lazlo Hollyfeld in Real Genius Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted May 10, 2007 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2007 It was weird how Jacob technically wasn't real...I actually laughed when there was just a chair in the room...because all week I had said I bet Jacob isn't real hence why he wasn't credited in the guest list...but then bam there he was for a split second...hmmm....its weird he has clothes on like a native... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/489159-lost-season-three/page/133/#findComment-588542269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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