Lost - Season Three

[Computer Guru]

OK, I admit.

Despite the twist it wasn't a total letdown. But still.

OT: I was right! TLG was never flooded in the first place :D

Can't be Dharma on the boat, because Dharma has no clue WTF Des is and knows nothing about Penny - remember, the files they have are only on the survivors of 815, and Des was stuck in a hatch.

[Hurmoth]

Can't be Dharma on the boat, because Dharma has no clue WTF Des is and knows nothing about Penny - remember, the files they have are only on the survivors of 815, and Des was stuck in a hatch.

It can be Dharma. Remember Dharma is funded by Alvar Hanso who is friends and has worked with the Widmore Corporation, who is owned by Penny's father. And of course Charles Widmore has to know that Penny is looking for Desmond, so who's to say that Charles isn't trying to find him first.

And the files, what do they have to do with Dharma. The Others got the files from Mikhail, who was doing research on all of the passengers aboard Flight 815. Not sure I see a connection between Mikhail's research and Dharma?

[Spacce]

Just got to thinking...

Did Jack ever find his father after the crash landing?

I am thinking that his father was never dead and that the smoke monster made him think his father was dead..

And when Jack leaves the island, Jack finds out his father is still alive?

but I can't remember if jack ever finds his father's body or not

[+Peewee210 Subscriber¹]

Excellent episode. So glad i didn't read the spoilers, but they were spot on! I like Charlie more from this episode, they should of had more of Walt but still good.

Now we have that looooooooooong wait...

[Mathachew Veteran]

Just got to thinking...

Did Jack ever find his father after the crash landing?

I am thinking that his father was never dead and that the smoke monster made him think his father was dead..

And when Jack leaves the island, Jack finds out his father is still alive?

but I can't remember if jack ever finds his father's body or not

Jack identified his dad at the morgue. Christian Shephard is dead.

[Spacce]

Jack identified his dad at the morgue. Christian Shephard is dead.

oh well , just a thought.. scratch that then :D

[benac]

Mikail will be back...you can't put a great man down :D

:laugh:

I was just jokingly thinking this morning...Mikail will be back next season. Not even a grenade can stop a crazy Russian.

THE MAN JUST WON'T DIE!

Another thing that I was thinking of was:

?You aren?t supposed to do this.?

From Locke.

I'm sort of thinking with the Flash forwards, that they are a possible scenario that could occur at that moment in time based on the events occurring at present. EXAMPLE: Based on the events of that Season finale day, That is the Jack's future. However in season 4, that future could be altered based on the route that he takes at present (He could kill someone, Or someone could die and that entire future flash could change directions).

This also relates to Desmond's visions of the future. Those future events are not concrete (As we know from him saving Charlie).

[Aaron Veteran]

Charlie just died in TLG. The flash forwards were way in the future, Jack talked about flying back and forth trying to get back to the island. So it was at least months, if not years, since they left the island.

And speaking of which, I thought it was a wonderful touch to have Aaron crying after Charlie died.

I did NOT cry, I had something in my eye...

Charlie frustrates me to no end.

1st, he smacks Desmond over the head with an oar when all he had to say was "No thanks, mate! I got this one!"

Now he seals himself in the jamming equipment room with a mild water leak that would've taken easily HOURS to fill up the entire pool room. Why not just step out of the room and shut the door? MORON!

Granted, i understand why he did it... vision and all... he has to die so Claire can be saved... but it's more like he chose to die as opposed to the vision actually coming true. He obviously didnt HAVE to die. Makes you wonder had he gone on this mission w/o the knowledge of his death... would it have turned out the same way?

I was sitting there thinking, "Ok, you did it the signal is off - now swim out of the frickin blast hole behind you!"

Ok, so here are some of my random thoughts:

- Was the reason that Kate was not in jail and Jacks Dad is (maybe) not dead due to some way in which the island causes you to face your demons, thereby altering your destiny? In other words, when they get back they realize that after some "island therapy" there lives are "fixed". But for some, it was incomplete hence Jack's desire to go back so badly.

- Who are really the "good guys"? Are the Other's a group of Dharma rebels who have latent "abilities" that manifest themselves after island exposure? Are they really the good guys and Dharma is the group who want to abuse and exploit the islands powers?

- I had more originally but most posts have addressed them...

[draklin]

I wonder if the people on the boat were sent there by someone with 4 toes. :laugh:

[benac]

I was sitting there thinking, "Ok, you did it the signal is off - now swim out of the frickin blast hole behind you!"

I was thinking that too. He is a small guy (Hobbit) however It didn't look like his shoulders would fit. That and Mikhail the crazy Russian is waiting to gum him to death outside :shiftyninja: .

Still...He could have tried.

[Aaron Veteran]

Also, Naomi said that they (flight 815) was recovered and all were declared dead... How is that gonna be worked out?

How far in the future is the flash forward? Jack's beard is pretty substantial. I wonder if next season will start off before what we just saw and work it's way to it?

[pmac1328]

Hours? It would have taken a number of seconds. Once the water started coming in and the pressure keeping the moon pool down equalized, the room would flood, probably with explosive decompression due to the air having nowhere to go.

step out of control room. Shut door. No dead Charlie. No flooding. No Pressure.

and do you honestly think that's what was going through his head? I can only imagine Charlie thinking "OMG if i dont get this leak cut off from the main chamber, pressure will kill us all!". And if he was smart enough to think that.... step out of control room... shut door.

[Pallab]

Charlie died because he believed that the rest of the Losties (including Claire and Aaron) wont get rescued if he didnt die. Remember, thats what Desmond told him.

This was the best season of lost! The first few episodes were not mind blowing (but still quite good), but last few have been awesome.

[Hurmoth]

Charlie died because he believed that the rest of the Losties (including Claire and Aaron) wont get rescued if he didnt die. Remember, thats what Desmond told him.

Agreed, and I think the fact that the keypad had been programmed by a musician only reinforced that it was Charlie's destiny to die and Charlie excepted that.

[benac]

step out of control room. Shut door. No dead Charlie. No flooding. No Pressure.

and do you honestly think that's what was going through his head? I can only imagine Charlie thinking "OMG if i dont get this leak cut off from the main chamber, pressure will kill us all!". And if he was smart enough to think that.... step out of control room... shut door.

Doesn't matter, The creators decided it was time for Charlie to die... Then it was so (They're kinda like god).

[MrKuro]

:laugh:

I was just jokingly thinking this morning...Mikail will be back next season. Not even a grenade can stop a crazy Russian.

THE MAN JUST WON'T DIE!

Maybe his "island ability" is that he can't die (invulnerability) . . maybe?

[Rob2687]

For all we know that flash forward could have been events at or beyond the end of the series. Maybe instead of flash backs their gonna do flash forwards from now on and we see the events on the island leading up to those events.

[+Peewee210 Subscriber¹]

For all we know that flash forward could have been events at or beyond the end of the series. Maybe instead of flash backs their gonna do flash forwards from now on and we see the events on the island leading up to those events.

Thats a really good point. We know all of Jack's past now and nothing to add to it, so maybe him and a few charcters will get flash forwards instead of backs.

[Ikshaar]

Well I have to admit after a terrible season 2 - Jack, Sawyer and Kate prisoners was boring as hell, I almost quit - this one was WAY better. Still some inconsistencies but much better.

[benac]

For all we know that flash forward could have been events at or beyond the end of the series. Maybe instead of flash backs their gonna do flash forwards from now on and we see the events on the island leading up to those events.

Probably at some point. We have got the base of the majority of the character's pasts.

Great season. I have to admit I did get a little annoyed at the beginning of the season with the lack of answers being given...But I still saw every episode. This is still one of the best series hands down. I still have yet to purchase the Season 1&2 DVD's (Which I think I'm going to do friday)...And I'll be waiting for the season 3 DVD.

[Mathachew Veteran]

- Was the reason that Kate was not in jail and Jacks Dad is (maybe) not dead due to some way in which the island causes you to face your demons, thereby altering your destiny? In other words, when they get back they realize that after some "island therapy" there lives are "fixed". But for some, it was incomplete hence Jack's desire to go back so badly.

- Who are really the "good guys"? Are the Other's a group of Dharma rebels who have latent "abilities" that manifest themselves after island exposure? Are they really the good guys and Dharma is the group who want to abuse and exploit the islands powers?

- I had more originally but most posts have addressed them...

We're not sure about Kate, though there could be a lot of scenarios. And...

Why do people keep insisting that Christian Shephard is alive?! :omg: :angry: :argh:

The writers even said it, CHRISTIAN SHEPHARD IS DEAD. We saw his lifeless body on a slab. End of story. He'll likely appear from Smokey, but that doesn't count as alive.

As for the good/bad guys, it's really hard to say, but maybe there is some truth to what Ben is saying, although good guys wouldn't normally take the course of action the Others have taken: kidnapping children, killing anyone that stops them, forcing people against their will, etc.

Edit: Ok, I'm calm :)

Anywho, if Christian Shephard were alive, well, that would make this picture negligible:

Edited May 24, 2007 by Mathachew

[episode]

step out of control room. Shut door. No dead Charlie. No flooding. No Pressure.

and do you honestly think that's what was going through his head? I can only imagine Charlie thinking "OMG if i dont get this leak cut off from the main chamber, pressure will kill us all!". And if he was smart enough to think that.... step out of control room... shut door.

There was no lock on the outside of the door.

[Mathachew Veteran]

There was no lock on the outside of the door.

There was a door handle, but whether that securely locked the door is something else. It could probably open and close the door, but not seal it like Charlie did.

[Hurmoth]

Why do people keep insisting that Christian Shephard is alive?! :omg: :angry: :argh:

The writers even said it, CHRISTIAN SHEPHARD IS DEAD. We saw his lifeless body on a slab. End of story. He'll likely appear from Smokey, but that doesn't count as alive.

Then what happened to the body? And I haven't heard the writers say the Christian is dead and I've listened to every single podcast, can you tell me which one it is? I'm not questioning you, I just don't remember that.

[mick0142]

can someone go back and look at the flash forward for me, i am 90% sure that during some part of that jack's eyes were not the same color (one light, one dark... as we have seen before)