[UPDATE] WLMessenger Gift for Canada after all?

[whitebread]

I got the email as well, I don't even think they sent the gifts out to those of us in Canada to begin with so heh.

We shall soon see....

[jaxius]

got the email too... woot!!

:p

[Tomi]

Maybe a couple thousand WLM bags showed up back at their door with "Return to Sender" written on them. :p

ROFL.

Yeah, I got the email too, replied back to him. Glad someone's looking into this finally. :)

[Storm]

Please can you PM me his email address? Not got mine in UK either...

[snuffy]

Did anyone get them in the UK?

I certianly didn't and none of the testers I know did!

[whitebread]

So.... Anyone from Canada hear anything further in regards to this?

[Allan]

notta. still waiting. perhaps theyh are laughing as us crazy Canucks for this thread, and wanting this bag soooo bad!! :p

[Tomi]

Just watch, we'll get something twice as better than that bag, just because they feel sorry for us. :laugh:

[ Okay, I wish. :pinch: ]

[whitebread]

Just watch, we'll get something twice as better than that bag, just because they feel sorry for us. :laugh:

[ Okay, I wish. :pinch: ]

Well, you know, when they send us the Messenger bag WITH a laptop in it, it will all become clear. After all, it will take Dell/Toshiba/Lenovo/etc. a lot of time to make so many high-end gaming laptops :laugh: .

[jbonello]

Well, you know, when they send us the Messenger bag WITH a laptop in it, it will all become clear. After all, it will take Dell/Toshiba/Lenovo/etc. a lot of time to make so many high-end gaming laptops :laugh: .

i was waiting for a MacBook Pro...but a Dell will do just the same :D

[whitebread]

i was waiting for a MacBook Pro...but a Dell will do just the same :D

Heck, I'd even put up with an Alienware! :D

[Tomi]

Well, you know, when they send us the Messenger bag WITH a laptop in it, it will all become clear. After all, it will take Dell/Toshiba/Lenovo/etc. a lot of time to make so many high-end gaming laptops :laugh: .

Hopefully they'll screw up my order and send me two. :D

[null_]

A Microsoft LifeCam would definately be a nice treat :p

[kawai]

So.... Anyone from Canada hear anything further in regards to this?

Nothing, the bags will probably show up on our door step one day unexpected.

That or free display pictures for everyone :p

[Berserk87]

i never got a gift, and i havnt gotten this email yet :(

hopefully tomorrow. :)

[M/\TT]

I'm in the UK. Got my bag a few days ago.. Was a bit surprised when a UPS guy delivered it!

It came from MS Ireland. Now I just need a laptop to put in it.. lol

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

im from ontario, and still nothing :(

[EGM92]

I just got this in my email

Hi,

Zeroth, as your slow neighbor to the south, I want to apologize for the premature sending of the unfinished mail. This message should be complete.

First, I?d like to thank everyone who did respond for their response. I?m sorry I haven?t been able to reply to each of you individually, but, as you can imagine, I?ve received a large number of replies.

Now, I?d like to answer the most common questions I saw, as well as a couple I foresee.

1) When will the gift arrive?

It actually should arrive within the next couple of weeks. If you did not receive a package from us by the end of October, please reply and let me know.

2) I changed my address, will I still get it?

Maybe, maybe not. If you don?t get it, let me know and I?ll dig one up for you. But, again, please wait until the end of October to let me know.

3) Should I have to pay customs on the gift?

As far as I know, no. If you do, please refuse delivery and let me know.

4) What is the gift?

It was meant to be a surprise, so, I?ve added that information down below my signature. If you really want to know just scroll on down. If you already know, no reason to scroll down. If you don?t want to know but would rather be surprised, I?d stop reading now.

Thanks and have a great day! And I apologize for this second interruption.

-john

Windows Live Beta Team

The gift is essentially a laptop bag with custom graphics on it, however it is in the design style of a messenger bag for a gift of a pun-ish nature.

[Simon Veteran]

lol, the guy sending that letter above seems like a fun guy

I wish I was in the beta, but I was invited :cry:

[Allan]

Who is Zeroth?

[Slimy]

I just got this in my email

Got it as well :)

[EGM92]

Who is Zeroth?

That's a very good question, I was sort of confused when I read the email. I thought it was a fake at first till I realized the address, maybe some sort of pun that us Canadians are supposed to get but really don't?

[Axon]

I'm Zeroth... :shiftyninja:

Yea I just got this in my Inbox too.

It's kinda funny, it looks like he accidently sent the letter out prematurely (half finished), and followed it up with the full, and complete, version.

It's nice to hear we'll be getting our gifts after all! :happy:

-Ax

[whitebread]

<H1 class=firstHeading>Zeroth</H1><H3 id=siteSub>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</H3>Jump to: navigation, searchThe zeroth item is the initial item of a sequence, if that sequence is numbered beginning from zero rather than one. This kind of numbering is common in computer systems, so hackers and computer scientists often use zeroth where others might use first, and so forth.

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In computer programming

This usage follows from design choices embedded in many influential programming languages, including C, Java, and Lisp. In these three, sequence types (C arrays, Java arrays and lists, and Lisp lists and vectors) are indexed beginning with the zero subscript. Particularly in C, where arrays are closely tied to pointer arithmetic, this makes for a simpler implementation. In reality, the subscript refers to an offset from the starting position of an array. Therefore, the first element would have an offset of zero. Referencing memory by an address and an offset is represented directly in hardware on virtually all computer architectures, so this design detail in C makes compilation easier and run times faster, at the cost of some human factors. In this context using "zeroth" as an ordinal is not strictly correct, but professional shorthand. Other higher-level languages have adopted array subscripts starting with one for a closer correspondence to the usual ordinal numbers.

Zero is the lowest unsigned integer value, one of the most fundamental types in programming and hardware design. In computer science, zero is thus often used as the base case for many kinds of numerical recursion. Proofs and other sorts of mathematical reasoning in computer science often begin with zero. For these reasons, in computer science it is not unusual to number from zero rather than one.

Hackers and computer scientists often like to call the first chapter of a publication "Chapter 0", especially if it is of an introductory nature. One of the classic instances was in the First Edition of K&R. In recent years this trait has also been observed among many pure mathematicians, where many constructions are defined to be numbered from 0.

Zero-based numbering tends to reduce fencepost errors, though it cannot eliminate them entirely, and may even introduce them in a few cases.

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Besides computing

In mathematics, many sequences of numbers or of polynomials are indexed by nonnegative integers, for example the Bernoulli numbers and the Bell numbers.

A common use of zeroth outside computing is in the name of the zeroth law of thermodynamics, a law that was formulated after the first, second and third laws, but considered more fundamental.

In the realm of fiction, Isaac Asimov eventually added a Zeroth Law to his famous Three Laws of Robotics.

Some buildings in the British English speaking world refer to the ground floor as floor 0, which may be confusing for speakers of American English.

While the ordinal of 0 is rarely used outside of communities closely connected to mathematics, physics, and computer science, there is one instance of it in classical music. The composer Anton Bruckner regarded his early Symphony in D minor to be unworthy of including in the canon of his works, and he wrote 'gilt nicht' on the score and a circle with a crossbar, intending it to mean "invalid". But posthumously, this work came to be known as Symphony No. 0 in D minor, even though it was actually written after Symphony No. 1 in C minor. There's an even earlier Symphony in F minor of Bruckner's that is sometimes called No. 00.

In some universities, including Oxford and Cambridge, "week 0" or occasionally "noughth week" refers to the week before the first week of lectures in a term. In Australia, some universities refer to this as "O-Week", which serves as a pun on "Orientation Week". As a parallel, the introductory weeks at university educations in Sweden are generally called "nollning" (zeroing).

Note also the use of 00 hours in the 24-hour clock as beginning of the day.

See also Orders of approximation for "Zeroth-order approximation."

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References

This article was originally based on material from the Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, which is licensed under the GFDL.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroth"

[Tomi]

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Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroth"

You could have just given the link to Wikipedia instead of pasting it here. =/

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I got the email too, both of them. :laugh: Glad they're on top of things. :)