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Currently its only referred to as Windows Vista plus 1 and it is likely to lead to SP1 Development as well as Revision Next of products such as Internet Explorer and other products shipping in the box with Vista.

The expected commencement is later this fall. :cool: Can't hardly wait!

Currently its only referred to as Windows Vista plus 1 and it is likely to lead to SP1 Development as well as Revision Next of products such as Internet Explorer and other products shipping in the box with Vista.

The expected commencement is later this fall. :cool: Can't hardly wait!

Must be in a hurry to get this junk out the door in January, or else they would put the "SP1" stuff to use and incorporate it in the initial release of this so-so product. Oh microsoft...............

Must be in a hurry to get this junk out the door in January, or else they would put the "SP1" stuff to use and incorporate it in the initial release of this so-so product. Oh microsoft...............

Or they could just wait until they have all the features of the next OS ready too. Then they could just call it perfect, and stop making software. :wacko:

I heard it from an official source that Geekster is easily manipulated. :whistle:

Hey Geekster. Windows Vista will have a second service pack. It will come after the first service pack. It will be called "Windows Vista" with some kind of indicication that it's the second service pack. True story. Quote me.

Of course at a really high level people are thinking about SP1. Obviously some teams are done with Vista before others, and it makes sense for them to start thinking about what they're working on next.

"Vista + 1" simply refers to the Windows release that comes after Vista (not an SP).

Source = Geekster.

I can not reveal where I get some of my information, that... would be telling. ;)

People like you make the enthusiast community seperated like the wealth between rich and poor. You don't have to act all superior with internal information. Instead of crediting yourself, you should credit the people who told you your information or the people who actually work on Windows.

You're not the source, "Source = Microsoft employee", don't be selfish.

I heard about this too, I think it was mentioned on AeroXP. It wouldn't surprise me as updates will be out for consumers at Vista launch. And 8 months later a SP (usually in the summer/fall)

People like you make the enthusiast community seperated like the wealth between rich and poor. You don't have to act all superior with internal information. Instead of crediting yourself, you should credit the people who told you your information or the people who actually work on Windows.

You're not the source, "Source = Microsoft employee", don't be selfish.

I don't seperate anyone or aim to be superior. Simply the information I got was from someone employed at Microsoft and I am not about to say who it is. So we can argue until we're blue in the face, fact is, I will not disclose the source.

I don't seperate anyone or aim to be superior. Simply the information I got was from someone employed at Microsoft and I am not about to say who it is. So we can argue until we're blue in the face, fact is, I will not disclose the source.

Well you just said it yourself, "I got was from someone employed at Microsoft".

If you got it from someone else, then why did you credit yourself? "Source = Geekster."

Shouldn't you be crediting the someone? "Source = Microsoft employee"?

I don't really see the news. The employee could be a janitor for all we know. Microsoft has already talked SP1 for Vista for a while now.

As I said above - there is no news. Everybody knows there will be a Vista SP1 - and I'm pretty sure we've said it will be a normal service pack (ie. no new features). Also everybody knows that there will be another version of Windows after Vista (ie. "Vista + 1").

As I said above - there is no news. Everybody knows there will be a Vista SP1 - and I'm pretty sure we've said it will be a normal service pack (ie. no new features). Also everybody knows that there will be another version of Windows after Vista (ie. "Vista + 1").

:D

Excellent, thanks for clearing that up!

So Windows Vienna beta programme is starting in late fall.

:cool:

Well, until I see a -CREDIBLE- source, I dont believe it :)

..... Sorry :p

(seeing IS believing after all, and I havent seen anything yet.)

Agreed.

Scirwode

So if you know as much as the last person why do you make yourself so righteous when you don't know any better?

Huh? I work in the Windows org.

I can't talk about internal schedules or plans or anything like that. But I can help stop baseless rumors...

Geekster, maybe you have a nice source, but don't ever try questioning Brandon. He is closer to the pot than you think ;)

As for the "news":

a fact: a Microsoft employee writes a line to his EFI handling code, removes another line, and plans to show it to his boss in december.

"news": Microsoft is changing the EFI engine, testing starts in december.

I'm not questioning your source, but the more data streams the bits are travelling, the bigger the chance of a data loss or a data change. Keep this in mind when "hearing things" ;)

PS: Inquier version: Ballmer directed the developers, developers, developers... to drasticly change BIOS handling in Vista: every 2nd end-user have to buy a new motherboard? :p

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