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Why are people excited about screenshots? It's not like we're gonna see anything new by now. Maybe a wallpaper, Or the boot screen, I guess.. But seriously. I'd be looking forward for more performance fixes, Drivers and Compatibility fixes.

I bet that the RTM build will be totally diferent as opposed to the UI from what you have seen in RC2! by totally diferent i mean the black colour! see office 2007, see the vista box icon colouring in Vista, see thier website, i bet that in the RTM built the UI will match the coloring of office 2007.

if you think that chnages are over you are fooled.

Microsoft is smart enought to leave MANY wow factors left out until the final built.

I bet that the RTM build will be totally diferent as opposed to the UI from what you have seen in RC2! by totally diferent i mean the black colour! see office 2007, see the vista box icon colouring in Vista, see thier website, i bet that in the RTM built the UI will match the coloring of office 2007.

if you think that chnages are over you are fooled.

Microsoft is smart enought to leave MANY wow factors left out until the final built.

Well said mate. Believe it or not this actually happens a lot.

That's odd, speaking 5808 actually doesn't have ANY text on the desktop

Neat. I don't need screenshots for that, I'll take your word for it.

Reminds me of: "So that's what an invisible barrier looks like!"

I bet that the RTM build will be totally diferent as opposed to the UI from what you have seen in RC2! by totally diferent i mean the black colour! see office 2007, see the vista box icon colouring in Vista, see thier website, i bet that in the RTM built the UI will match the coloring of office 2007.

if you think that chnages are over you are fooled.

Microsoft is smart enought to leave MANY wow factors left out until the final built.

Most people are ready to accept the fact that a few extra backgrounds, sounds, and themes are not things that need to be tested.

And as far as the "wow" factor is concerned, that's all bundling and marketing. I expect an add-on type CD like a plus pack that has your "wow" within it -- what you see here is Vista as it'll be released vanilla. If you're looking for sudden animated icons and backgrounds, the "new font" dialog box changed, you could be in for a sore disappointment.

If I'm wrong, it'd be the first time in the history of Microsoft's track record of their last five OS releases. Considering they are pressured to release, there's no reason to delay it with further additions to the ISO of any kind.

Neat. I don't need screenshots for that, I'll take your word for it.

Reminds me of: "So that's what an invisible barrier looks like!"

Most people are ready to accept the fact that a few extra backgrounds, sounds, and themes are not things that need to be tested.

And as far as the "wow" factor is concerned, that's all bundling and marketing. I expect an add-on type CD like a plus pack that has your "wow" within it -- what you see here is Vista as it'll be released vanilla. If you're looking for sudden animated icons and backgrounds, the "new font" dialog box changed, you could be in for a sore disappointment.

If I'm wrong, it'd be the first time in the history of Microsoft's track record of their last five OS releases. Considering they are pressured to release, there's no reason to delay it with further additions to the ISO of any kind.

Why is it that people, like you for instance, seem to think that those 'goodies' (the ones which will actually be included in some of the SKUs of the rtm) aren't already done? It isn't that the goodies aren't ready, it is the opposite. It is Microsoft isn't ready to unveil them! ;)

Why is it that people, like you for instance, seem to think that those 'goodies' (the ones which will actually be included in some of the SKUs of the rtm) aren't already done? It isn't that the goodies aren't ready, it is the opposite. It is Microsoft isn't ready to unveil them! ;)

Because I like to test the product as it is. If there's something new that will be deployed with the product (and they are sending an ISO to ship) it will be completely separate. Not too illogical.

Yes, they may announce something. Yes it might be ready at the time of ship. Yes, it might even be completely free. But it will be separate. Why? Because businesses, companies, and millions of people are depending on this product (and by "this product" I mean the ISO) to be the same product at ship time.

Yes, they might add graphics (like background images), sounds, music. But that doesn't need to be tested, and in the grand scheme of things, insignificant. Definitely not "wow". You can get all of that for free (hopefully) anywhere on the net.

Because I like to test the product as it is. If there's something new that will be deployed with the product (and they are sending an ISO to ship) it will be completely separate. Not too illogical.

Yes, they may announce something. Yes it might be ready at the time of ship. Yes, it might even be completely free. But it will be separate. Why? Because businesses, companies, and millions of people are depending on this product (and by "this product" I mean the ISO) to be the same product at ship time.

Yes, they might add graphics (like background images), sounds, music. But that doesn't need to be tested, and in the grand scheme of things, insignificant. Definitely not "wow". You can get all of that for free (hopefully) anywhere on the net.

Of course they won't include anything that Vista hasn't been employing for ages now. Although, they will incorporate the usage of more of that which they have used in part since Beta 1. Everyone will grasp this eventually. :pinch:

P.S. and not everything will be seperate. TRUST that one. :whistle:

Haha, you guys are too funny.

Why are they funny Brandon?

I know of higher builds than 5808 that MS employees are running internally right now.

I also know FOR A FACT that +1 is how MS is referring to a release for Vista targeted at the Q207-Q307 timeframe.

So unless you're planning on suggesting that the Core team is planning on launching a brand new OS in less than a year I'd start talking to some of the Windows team PM's again.

Oh and if you really do work there, say hi to Brendan Dohm for me.

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Why are they funny Brandon?

I know of higher builds than 5808 that MS employees are running internally right now.

I thought it was funny that he was asking a Windows developer whether or not he had access to an old build...

I also know FOR A FACT that +1 is how MS is referring to a release for Vista targeted at the Q207-Q307 timeframe.

Every reference to Vista+1 I've heard referred to the next release of Windows, for which we have not announced a schedule. You might be confusing it with SP1.

So unless you're planning on suggesting that the Core team is planning on launching a brand new OS in less than a year I'd start talking to some of the Windows team PM's again.

Huh?

Oh and if you really do work there, say hi to Brendan Dohm for me.

No idea who that is, although it says he reports up through one of our new test managers. If he's part of the newly restructured Shell team I might be working him soon.

That's odd, speaking 5808 actually doesn't have ANY text on the desktop *COUGH* :yes:

Why not? If you have it, then show us. 5808 is from the RTM branch, so it has the build tag. Only the final RTM won't include the build tag (by default).

If you want to prove something to us, you would show us screenshots, unless of course you want to be mind controlled by Microsoft :alien:

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