Mac OS X 'Leopard'-related Discussion

[Vice]

Got my copy in the Mail this morning. I was surprised it was so small actually. It's about the size of 2 CD Jewel Cases stacked. (No Pun intended). Amazon posted it through the letterbox which was good cause I wasn't here to accept it if they didn't.

I did an Upgrade install. No issues, no Blue Screen of Waiting-Death. Everything is snappy and Quicklooks is really awesome. It seems to be able to give thumbnails of Videos as-long as you have the codecs for Quicktime installed. So it made thumbnails for my mpegs and avi container files (using divx/xvid codecs).

Mail converted my Mailbox of like a few hundred locally stored mails in a split second to the new database system and all was good. Spotlight took like 5 minutes to re-index my 100GB drive. Going to do a Time Machine backup and keep testing :)

Overall I'm impressed and pleasantly surprised. It took about 30 minutes to do an Upgrade on my MacBook Pro 17" Core Duo (2.16GHz with 2GB of RAM). Most of my Apps seem to work.

[crazzyyfool]

June, I just looked it up.

Still, those are really boring "top secret" features. :sleep:

My mistake, June it is. Know what you mean, I was expecting something revolutionary. Finder, Desktop and Dock updates have been a long time coming.

[CPressland]

Anyone else getting unusually high memory usage with Safari? I do have a lot of windows with tabs open but in Tiger it was 400MB mark. In Leopard its 1200MB. Not to mention however much virtual memory its using.

Here is a screenshot of Safari with 12 Tabs Open (Neowin, Digg, TorrentLeech, etc) Only using 90MB or so of RAM...

[crazzyyfool]

Here is a screenshot of Safari with 12 Tabs Open (Neowin, Digg, TorrentLeech, etc) Only using 90MB or so of RAM...

Hmm. Is that value about the same as you had in Tiger?

[Xero]

Did you try Repairing Permissions and restarting after enabling all the Services? I can't do mine at the moment as I'm in work. Not doing very much work. ;)

I didn't try it after enabling them all again, but I did try it normally and no avail. However I was reading up and it might have to with our admin accounts, they said try make another user account and add your mail there. I'd try it myself but like you, I'm at work too, and clearly not working very hard either. lol

[CPressland]

Hmm. Is that value about the same as you had in Tiger?

No, it's tenfold lower now :)

I was using Safari 3 Beta on Tiger but it used way more memory on tiger compared to what it does now.

~500MB give or take some

[the evn show]

Had a bit of a play with this. Things of interest

• iMac G5 -> Macbook/macbook pro screen sharing was unstable as all hell
  
• iMac G5 (clean install) wouldn't do video effects in iChat
  
• iChat backgrounds suck
  
• Finder on a network with around 50 macs, half a dozen pcs crashed in coverflow view. Macs no longer listed in finder
  
• If you have more than half a dozen machines on your network the sidebar in finder doesn't want to know about them
  
• .Mac is more useful than before. iDisk doesn't murder finder
  
• Keychain bug has been messing with me and my AEB+AE network -- forgetting passwords etc.
  
• .Mac syncing has been refusing to move my contacts from .mac to my macs.
  
• So ugly. Transparency, dock. Why?
  
• 2 upgrades, 1 clean install, both went fine.
  
• Dear Apple, please cache your previews for icons/coverflow.
  
• Where the hell did step-backward debugging go?
  

[KeR]

I have one huge gripe with Leopard; the dock. I find it obtrusive, and counter productive. Apple needs to do something with it in 10.6, because what they have now is eye-candy without substance.

[crazzyyfool]

I didn't try it after enabling them all again, but I did try it normally and no avail. However I was reading up and it might have to with our admin accounts, they said try make another user account and add your mail there. I'd try it myself but like you, I'm at work too, and clearly not working very hard either. lol

Hmm. I wonder what the problem could be then. I'll have another poke around when I get home as it is annoying.

No, it's tenfold lower now :)

I was using Safari 3 Beta on Tiger but it used way more memory on tiger compared to what it does now.

~500MB give or take some

Guess, just a problem with mine then. :(

I have one huge gripe with Leopard; the dock. I find it obtrusive, and counter productive. Apple needs to do something with it in 10.6, because what they have now is eye-candy without substance.

Try using the 2D Dock.

[giga Veteran]

For those not liking the dock--just edit it to no-glass in terminal to get it like the side dock.

[Vice]

I kind of like the Glass Dock.

[Guest jgrodri]

my new 500 gb hardrive should arrive today/ tomorrow. The 1 gig stick of ram i just purchased to max out my ram should get here on wednesday.... Leopard, bring it on!

[Miuku.]

I have one huge gripe with Leopard; the dock. I find it obtrusive, and counter productive. Apple needs to do something with it in 10.6, because what they have now is eye-candy without substance.

Then disable it? Seriously, it's not rocket science.

[iSimx]

I kind of like the Glass Dock.

yep me to. I know its different, but sometimes change is good!

[suspiria]

Seriously, the 3D dock is atrocious. Apple couldn't have ruined the dock any more than they have in Leopard. From a usability and productivity standpoint, it's a major blunder by Apple. A classic example of looks over usability. I'm just so glad that we have the ability to enable the 2D dock on the bottom. Though, that doesn't let Apple off the hook.

[PyX]

Did a clean install, it now boots 5x faster, and everything is snappier... especially Safari ;)

I still cannot fix my hotmail issues with mail though... I am REALLY ****ed.

[saxondale.]

Why can't i see the network icon in my finder? My iMac (running Tiger) finds my MBP but it can't find the iMac.

[CPressland]

Did a clean install, it now boots 5x faster, and everything is snappier... especially Safari ;)

I still cannot fix my hotmail issues with mail though... I am REALLY ****ed.

I defraged my machine and now it's going as fast as a clean install! 'Tis super sweet, but as soon as I get my 250GB Firewire drive i'll be doing a clean install anyway

[Elliott]

yep me to. I know its different, but sometimes change is good!

Me three. I really love the new dock, and I think it's extemely usable and easy to follow. Maybe I just prefer the 3D perspective though...

[raskren]

So the blue-screening thing shouldn't be posted either then. Leopard's release wasn't even posted on the Apple section of the Front Page. We shouldn't be allowed to talk about Linux and UNIX then. Lame excuse matey. :rolleyes:

Xero. I am getting the same thing. Happens to all my mail accounts. Can't seem to find a solution at the moment. :(

...and you had no idea Leopard was released because it wasn't on Neowin's front page, right? There are about a gazillion Mac shrines on the web already.

Then disable it? Seriously, it's not rocket science.

Disable the dock outright? Are you kidding? It's a critical piece of the operating system!

[KeR]

Disable the dock outright? Are you kidding? It's a critical piece of the operating system!

I believe he was referring to having the 3D effect disabled and using the "flat" look.

[furby]

Why can't i see the network icon in my finder? My iMac (running Tiger) finds my MBP but it can't find the iMac.

That was really hard to make sense of for some reason. There's no network icon anymore, if you want to see it. Go to finder preferences->Sidebar and choose computer. Click on your computer and it brings up the Network icon (same info as the Shared section though).

You're MBP can't see your iMac? Can you ping the iMac from the MBP? I assume you've checked the folder sharing option on the iMac, sure you have but just in case.

[giga Veteran]

Got inquisitor and safaristand to work.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php...t=inputmanagers

[markwolfe Veteran]

NeoWIN. Notice the W-I-N at the end.

So why do they post news of new releases of linux? e.g new versions of ubuntu

I am sure that raskren knows his explanation doesn't hold water. Neowin is not a "Windows only site", and he knows it. It is a technology site.

I think he was just tired of hearing some of the whining going on here and there in this thread.

If Neowin was a Windows-only site, I would not be here, nor would a great many other non-Windows users. We just like (most) of the content and community members here.

[.kvn]

I can't believe that my pre-ordered Leopard through Amazon will not arrive until an estimated 7th November! Wahhhhhh!

Due to my location Apple don't deliver and shops here won't have it until hristmas at the earliest. So, keep the reports a coming. The anticipation to have this installed after reading what you lot are getting up to is just making the whole ordeal seem better.