Puzzle Box 2

[dickey500]

Just took a look at page 47 and to be honest im not sure it does mean anything. Good catch though. Very observant.

I'm surprised to hear that no one's taking interest in this. Those frames are very deliberate and reproducible. They're also NOT present on the titles of the first two boxes (Time and Magic).

Momentary flashes across a screen have led us to /on_the_run and /collectionplate. Why would this obviously deliberate flash mean NOTHING?

This is a very tangible and straightforward clue - not like people looking for number associations and random websites with vague references to the game.

I think it's worth the energy - I'm surprised no on else is taking note of something so blatant

The other thing is that the frames are not just with letters missing - eo el disa i r (or 1 r) can't be made into "people disappear" just by adding the letters back - "people" would be spelled "peopel" I think you guys are missing something here

[foxykitsune]

I think the flower in this shot is a "Bird of Paradise"

The statue looks a bit more like a horse to me, but if it's indeed a bird, The Blue Heron comes to mind with those long legs.

thats what i think too...didnt catch your post..

btw, i love foxes and japanese style martial arts. There are various Kitsunes ... some with 7 tails, there are statues like a God to the Japanese.

[akitakoi]

I agree that there is a significance to this (eo el disa i r (or 1 r)).

Also "Memories fade..." History maybe?

[DMHolt57]

The bird in the vid is obviously a Dodo. Another thing that has vanished...

[dickey500]

I agree that there is a significance to this (eo el disa i r (or 1 r)).

Also "Memories fade..." History maybe?

The thing is - these frames pop up in both the "memories fade" and "people disappear" titles.

I'm pretty sure now it's "...1 r" not "...i r"

doesn't hit anything in google...no idea where else to begin.

[boazer]

After looking at the two videos at the end of each puzzle there is a couple things I noticed, In the first video it clearly shows a closeup at her feet showing her legs crossed and a closeup of her shoes then in the second video it shows a closeup of the same area but this time no legs or feet (perhaps she's starting to disapear... )but her wand still in the picture.

She seems to be wearing the same exact clothes in both videos meaning they were probally filmed together but another difference I see is she is wearing a necklace in the second video but not in the first, you would think there might be something there. also someone reffered to her maybe having a twin that maybe how she managed to get quadruple majors in just two years also the tale of 2 brothers refers to twins and that everyone always thought there was just one of them which let them fool people and get away with lot.... Im thinking from the meta puzzle clues we need to find who she loki is we already sawed her in half LO=Lorelei KI=Kitsune the school she possibly went to MIT? where she works Microsoft... now maybe we need to find reletaves, parents, friends, history, genology not sure but it seems we are learning more about her at every turn so it seems the right direction to go.

[confusio]

I do not beleive that the type of chocolates, type of watches, or where she is flying to has much to do with the puzzle. These all have 1 thing in common.... the number 4.

4 chocolate wrappers, 4 watches, 4 flights, 4 Boxes (Puzzles to solve). I have a feeling that some of these things were put in to throw people of track. But then again I have been known to be wrong before. :blush:

It may not be related to the puzzle boxes, but there are many things shown in the videos

that are deliberate, and ways to comunicate with Loki outside the puzzle game.

What is she waiting for to show up somewhere, some how again, I don't know.

Remember that these guys from e42 found the way to make 50,000 public phones ring

at the same time during the Halo viral marketing campaign, and the actual intention

of this game is to create buzz not just solve a couple of puzzles that are not extremely

easy but also not extremely hard and then wait and do nothing until the next box opens.

I may be wrong but this is what I think, as I said before if the game is just solve the

puzzles in the boxes, it is really a sign that whoever is behind the whole thing

underestimates (and grossly) the power of this huge group of collective minds.

Forgot to mention, actually is five watches, she puts four in the box but keeps one in

her hand, then she has it on her hands in the second video and on the third video

when she is telling the history about the recruiter she says "hey give me the job and I’ll

be giving you your watch back"

My .02

Cheers

PS. Thanks for the Dodo bird reference and bird of paradise flower, I'll follow that lead,

I've been trying to find in what hotel room she was staying, it has to be some downtown

area (perhaps Seattle) due the background street noise.

Edited January 16, 2007 by confusio

[Jacki Boi]

I thought I had read through it all. There's 4 days till the next box opens. Maybe I'll loop back and check it out. Sorry I was a little short, but the guy kinda ticked me off when he said that. How many different threads are you guys after going through? Let me know so I can catch up...

Sorry... & Thanks.

FYI i wasn't trying to upset you just trying to let you know that someone had already gone through this information and you should take a look if you were interested.

[deffjeff]

I know that the boxes in the top left hand corner of the magic puzzles helped us match the clues to each puzzle, but do you think that they are also a clue themselves ( leaving out the florida and australia shaped ones)? There is a font in MS word labeled MS Box writing which is very similar to those shapes.

[deffjeff]

also why doesnt the Posters puzzle have one of these shapes?

[Orbitjeff]

Hi all,

I've been working on this since the 9th, and have been reading the posts (though not posting due to a lack of anything specific to add), and I was wondering if I missed something:

How do we know for sure that the /CollectionPlate boxes are part of the Meta Puzzle and not a clue for a later puzzle (or a later puzzle itself)? From the beginning I (and we)'ve been jumping through hoops for the Meta Puzzle: Go to this site, figure out an email, make numerous calls, check out an itinerary, research buildings, make more calls... And then nothing on that front.

Leaving that alone, we find the white boxes. 9/puzzle box. We start to put those together, and the collectionplate page tells how many we have and that we will be asked a question at the correct time. But... We could have found the collectionplate without ever calling the number to the former ATT building...

So, are they related? What was the purpose of all the phone calls/research/emails if we didnt need them...?

I ask that you not flame me for something probably obvious... Sometimes you're so deep into something you miss something silly.

Just thought I'd ask.

[phxmimms]

A couple of random thoughts...

It appears that the cellphone Loki is using is a Blackberry 7130. I haven't seen anything yet that would lead to her cell phone number however; Blackberry offers an email service.

I sent two emails at the same time this morning. One to lokivanishessplatvzw.blackberry.net and one to lokisplatvzw.blackberry.net . Only the first one bounced back. The second email to Loki has not bounced 4 hours later. It may mean nothing, but it can't hurt to try a couple different ideas.

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The airport itinerary.

1) Will the Loki we see in the videos be on one of those flights? I doubt it, it would be far too simple and obvious. I imagine she is staying fairly "low-key" for the duration of the contest or until we get closer to the end.

2) Will someone connected to the game be on one of those flights? There is a fair degree of probability in my mind.

I'm wondering... If someone was able to make contact with the "right" person on one of those flights, would they be given additional clues? I realize I may be reaching here.

I'm halfway tempted to try and find someone who will stand at the gate with a "Loki" sign, much like a Limo driver, to see if there is a response.

One last thing. One area of my job is to oversee contests and promotions for a large system within a national company. In running a successful contest, one key element is the consistent engagement of the participants. The last thing you want is to lose momentum in the midst of the contest period. Based on this, I believe that we are missing something that is happening right now.

I just don't know what "it" is.

Loki has posted here once before, perhaps if we ask nicely... :whistle:

[godwi014]

Hook.bmp

Does the symbol attached look at all like the symbol from the meta puzzle to anyone?

[akitakoi]

I keep thinking this whole thing goes back to the luanch of Windows Vista, and something about that makes me think there might be some clues in the Vista website. I have been sitting for hours looking through all the Wow pictures, nothing so far.

Edited January 16, 2007 by akitakoi

[confusio]

How do we know for sure that the /CollectionPlate boxes are part of the Meta Puzzle ...

Just a hint, when you go to the collectionplate page the name of the stylesheet is "meta.css"

My .02

[MLH]

Just a hint, when you go to the collectionplate page the name of the stylesheet is "meta.css"

My .02

That is interesting

[tgeairn]

Is anyone currently working / thinking about the banded Loki image?

http://vanishingpointgame.com/images/loki.jpg

Do we know a purpose for its existence? If not, any ideas on the banding?

[phxmimms]

This goes in the "maybe something...maybe nothing" catagory. Let me know if someone is already looking at this.

Loki at one point said to watch for the tags (paraphrased). Has anyone researched Microsofts "tagspace"?

Below are a couple links

Introducing Microsoft.com "Tagspace"

This is where the Microsoft.com service code-named Tagspace comes in. Microsoft.com Tagspace is all about giving you, the consumer of content on Microsoft.com and associated sites, the power to identify, define, catalogue, and share what interests you, in ways that make sense to you in those contexts.

Tagspace Intro Link

or the Microsoft Tagspace Beta Community ?

Tagspace Beta Community

I haven't found anything there yet, but it caught my attention as did an article about "tag in the 21st century" and the 5 Things Meme blogging thing that is going on.

Microsft Blogger Explains tag in the 21st century

Another example of 5 things Meme

Could Loki be playing this and her videos relate to 5 things about her?

Thoughts anyone?

[lindendragon]

This goes in the "maybe something...maybe nothing" catagory. Let me know if someone is already looking at this.

Loki at one point said to watch for the tags (paraphrased). Has anyone researched Microsofts "tagspace"?

Below are a couple links

Introducing Microsoft.com "Tagspace"

This is where the Microsoft.com service code-named Tagspace comes in. Microsoft.com Tagspace is all about giving you, the consumer of content on Microsoft.com and associated sites, the power to identify, define, catalogue, and share what interests you, in ways that make sense to you in those contexts.

Tagspace Intro Link

or the Microsoft Tagspace Beta Community ?

Tagspace Beta Community

I haven't found anything there yet, but it caught my attention as did an article about "tag in the 21st century" and the 5 Things Meme blogging thing that is going on.

Microsft Blogger Explains tag in the 21st century

Another example of 5 things Meme

Could Loki be playing this and her videos relate to 5 things about her?

Thoughts anyone?

I think what she meant when she said "Vanishing Point Tag", is the tag used on blogs. Many bloggers put tags on their blog entries, with general categories or keywords, as to easily identify and search for entries. So she must have been referring to the Microsoft blog, or the IE blog, or perhaps the other bloggers who received a box and key from Microsoft (after all, she told them to "search out others like [them]")

[chriscross93]

Is anyone currently working / thinking about the banded Loki image?

http://vanishingpointgame.com/images/loki.jpg

Do we know a purpose for its existence? If not, any ideas on the banding?

I just realized that a few pages back somebody posted a pic of "lines" could this have anything to with the pic of loki with "lines"? Whoever posted that if you would post it again it would be great (I'll work on trying to match them up)!

[tgeairn]

I just realized that a few pages back somebody posted a pic of "lines" could this have anything to with the pic of loki with "lines"? Whoever posted that if you would post it again it would be great (I'll work on trying to match them up)!

I can't find the earlier post, if you find it elsewhere please repost here.

I've tried every trick I know against the original, as well as copies I sliced up (Used Imageready to slice into 4 pixel horizontal bars, this matches up nicely). Nothing yet.

[confusio]

I just realized that a few pages back somebody posted a pic of "lines" could this have anything to with the pic of loki with "lines"? Whoever posted that if you would post it again it would be great (I'll work on trying to match them up)!

I believe you refer to this image, found in several of the flash files

calendars_image2.bmp

[akitakoi]

Man it hurts my eyes.

[tgeairn]

Yeah, mine too!

I've been trying to apply it or subtract it or everything else, nothing yet but this looks more and more interesting.

[Aeschylus Maximus]

If you look at that frame way to the back on the night stand to your left you will see the

chocolate wrapers on the table. Somebody during the pregame even found who

makes them !!! :-)

What I'm talking about is the flower vase with the three flowers and what seems to be

a room service tray, that image is shown for about 75 frames the last few have the

dude on the right and a red extension cord on the floor.

Ya i was trying to point that out and see any reasoning in having wrapped and unwrapped ones