Puzzle Box 2

[confusio]

The picture of Loki in www.vanishingpointgame.com/shell_time.aspx is also interlaced.

Can anyone tell what is shown behind (along with) her there?

Looks like maybe a circle of brown hair.

You mean this one ?

[ZuniTribal]

this may just be a crazy coincidence, the boxes they used in the top corner of the puzzles are almost the exact same boxes from a Myst game. The puzzles they have been giving us remind me of Myst, you get clues in the world and use them to solve puzzles. I wonder if the boxes they showed us have any significance if we decode them using the values of the boxes from the Myst game. Each box stood for a number, I think.

i realize its my first post, but I personally saw those symbols as gold coins. and they fit the theme of magic especially as well.

[D-Cipher]

Call me crazy...but im either seeing a Pyramid in the background or a Nuclear Explosion....

Also...the "hand" on the clock to her right (our left) is pointing to 11..(or near)...any thoughts?

[The Toadster]

How do we know for sure that the /CollectionPlate boxes are part of the Meta Puzzle and not a clue for a later puzzle (or a later puzzle itself)? From the beginning I (and we)'ve been jumping through hoops for the Meta Puzzle: Go to this site, figure out an email, make numerous calls, check out an itinerary, research buildings, make more calls... And then nothing on that front.

Leaving that alone, we find the white boxes. 9/puzzle box. We start to put those together, and the collectionplate page tells how many we have and that we will be asked a question at the correct time. But... We could have found the collectionplate without ever calling the number to the former ATT building...

So, are they related? What was the purpose of all the phone calls/research/emails if we didnt need them...?

Both /CollectionPlate and /on_the_run say that she will soon ask us a question. That definately links them as part of the meta puzzle.

I think we missed something. My guess is there is something on the fax that should lead us somewhere.

[vidiot]

You mean this one ?

yep, maybe removing the stripes that make up Loki will show what's obscured ...

Edited January 17, 2007 by vidiot

[D-Cipher]

What do you think the SMOKE on the picture means? ....what about the SECOND BOX pic?

MY ASSUMPTION .. you guys dont think this is relevant??

LORELEI KITSUNE

Obviously this is a pseydonim..not a real name.

I found one thing on the internet ... http://cork-host.blogspot.com/2007/01/pagi...ei-kitsune.html

Reading that might give you some clues.....

P.S. Coincidental that first name and last name both have 7 letters?

Pretend you're dialing 1(866) LORELEI..which comes out to 866-567-3534

or (866) KITSUNE...which is 866-548-7863............Im going to try these out in a minute...but...wanted to see other's response about this................or am i totally going the wrong way???

P.S.S. Her name is definetly representing something...something related to the game...Lorelei = creatures killing fisherman....Kitsune = some spirit......not sure....

ALSO!

I am looking at the FAX right now...

It was sent on January 5, 2007 at 02:33 a.m......... perhaps Jan 5 of 2007 ......is 157-0233 ? add (866) ? NO? YES? any thoughts?

P.S. why would this fax be sent from "LOKI" as an "Itinerary for : L KITSUNE ? She sent it to herself?

[dickey500]

Pretty sure it just says "People Disappear"

It only says "people disappear" if you now spell people "peopel"

[D-Cipher]

if we were to call (866) LORELEI ..... it says "Thank you for calling Clear_ _ _ Corporation..." Then it gives you prompts to enter an extension (if we have one)...or press 1 for directory, 2 for physical address, etc. ....ANYONE TRIED THIS???

if we were to call (866) LORELEI ..... it says "Thank you for calling Clear_ _ _ Corporation..." Then it gives you prompts to enter an extension (if we have one)...or press 1 for directory, 2 for physical address, etc. ....ANYONE TRIED THIS???

http://www.whitepages.com/10001/search/Rev...ne=866-567-3534

THATS THE WWW.WHITEPAGES.COM SEARCH RESULT FOR THAT NUMBER....it says

Enterprise Alliances

Cedar Park, TX 78613

(866) 567-3534

COINSIDENCE? LOKI IS SCHEDULED TO FLY TO TEXAS TOMORROW, 01.18.07...........???

[JohnY79]

Given that you guys still believe there is something there, here are some captures from the home page:

(taken from the flash files)

Interesting the anagrams you posted, particularrly "I DO SEE LIAR", Herodotus was know as the

"Father of History" and also as the "Father of Lies" ....

Cheers

If you look at those captures they just appear to be making up "People Disappear" (i.e. the fourth box title), some of the letters go out of sequence but i'm pretty sure it's just to add to the effect. I really don't think there is anything more to it, but hey I could be wrong!

[troist]

the third and fourth boxes do have the same background effect on them, but thats like saying that the first 2 boxes are relevant because they shake in a certain way... just watch the fourth box and you'll see what i mean.

[D-Cipher]

So No comment guys on my comments above???

[Tha14thSpade]

Hey, I emailed Loki... as done in prior posts... but I got 2 emails not just one? before I post them, am I being repetitive by listing them?

[D-Cipher]

Both pictures in the puzzle boxes have SMOKE.....what may be the relevance of SMOKE? as in *poof* vanish?

[vidiot]

Hey, I emailed Loki... as done in prior posts... but I got 2 emails not just one? before I post them, am I being repetitive by listing them?

I vote ... post them

[Tha14thSpade]

Ok... the first one I have was the regualr one everybody got...

>From: "Loki . (Confidential)" <[email protected]>

>To: XXXXX XXXXX <[email protected]>

>Subject: Out of Office: Vanishing Point

>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:49:24 -0800

>

>Hmmm. Not quite what I had in mind. Try harder - then listen closely.

>

>~L

The second one on the other hand is...

>From: Remote Mailer Five <[email protected]>

>To: XXXXXX XXXXX<[email protected]>

>Subject: Getting Warmer

>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:49:24 -0800

>

>

>

>Hmmm. Not quite what I had in mind. Try harder - then listen closely.

>

>

>

>~L

Probably has nothing to do with anything... but I thought I'd show you guys.

[JohnY79]

Hey, I emailed Loki... as done in prior posts... but I got 2 emails not just one? before I post them, am I being repetitive by listing them?

Everyone gets two and always has done (as far as i'm aware)...

First one from [email protected], and second from [email protected] (with the subject "Getting Warmer"), body text is the same for both....

Hmmm. Not quite what I had in mind. Try harder - then listen closely.

~L

Well almost the same, the second e-mail ([email protected]) has extra line breaks...

Hmmm. Not quite what I had in mind. Try harder - then listen closely.

~L

[newman12]

It only says "people disappear" if you now spell people "peopel"

Thanks Dickey.....I did make a leap of faith on that one....but thanks for the spelling lesson.

[JohnY79]

the third and fourth boxes do have the same background effect on them, but thats like saying that the first 2 boxes are relevant because they shake in a certain way... just watch the fourth box and you'll see what i mean.

Very true, like i said before i'd be very surprised if it's anything more than a fancy background effect.

[akitakoi]

Can someone post the # you call to get the fax sent?

[dickey500]

the third and fourth boxes do have the same background effect on them, but thats like saying that the first 2 boxes are relevant because they shake in a certain way... just watch the fourth box and you'll see what i mean.

if you're talking about the eo el disa 1 r effect - I don't think it's unintentional. It also appears to me that everything that's been obvious like that (flashing words at the end of a video) has had some relevence. Do you think somone would have spent the time creating that "effect" for just two boxes? Why not do it on the first two?

I think the eo el disa i r and the weird second frame lettering are important somehow...it's too blatant to be brushed off. Hell, we have people in here trying to conjure phone numbers from names, but a very real image is going uncared for...

Very true, like i said before i'd be very surprised if it's anything more than a fancy background effect.

Why on only two boxes...so much attention to detail by both the game makers and game players - why ignore something so obvious? Let's focus instead on why Loki's legs disappear in the second video.

[D-Cipher]

if you're talking about the eo el disa 1 r effect - I don't think it's unintentional. It also appears to me that everything that's been obvious like that (flashing words at the end of a video) has had some relevence. Do you think somone would have spent the time creating that "effect" for just two boxes? Why not do it on the first two?

I think the eo el disa i r and the weird second frame lettering are important somehow...it's too blatant to be brushed off. Hell, we have people in here trying to conjure phone numbers from names, but a very real image is going uncared for...

LOL Dickey.....we DO have people trying to conjure phone numbers from names. It may be onto something. We should try to attempt EVERYTHING....nothing should be overlooked.

[dickey500]

Thanks Dickey.....I did make a leap of faith on that one....but thanks for the spelling lesson.

I'm just saying that the lettering is clearly changed...it's not a simple letter subtraction but a manipulation of the letters. It also doesn't fit an overlay of the two titles -as someone else suggested.

[D-Cipher]

To GET THE FAX .. go here and call the following NUMBER...go to

http://www.vanishingpointgame.com/awakened/

THATS the number to call :)

[akitakoi]

Thanks, lost track of the link.

[JohnY79]

"Histories of Herodotus"

I'm hopefully getting a copy of this in the morning from my local library, anybody have requests for specific things they'd like looked up?

(Other than the obvious Steganography references which i'm dying to look up anyway!!)