Apple to Windows iTunes users: Don't install Vista yet


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Let's see, hold off on upgrading the entire operating system because of possibly hundreds or thousands of pounds worth of already-purchased music not being playable or not. Such a hard choice...

If you've bought hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of music that can only be played by a single proprietary program, then I'm sorry but... :laugh:

So Apple couldn't make one application work properly in "5 years" and they call Microsoft slow for taking "5 years" to make Vista ?

Seriously, Apple is fast climbing to the top in my personal "companies to hate" list (currently taken by sony's playstation division :p)

Wo! Now Apple is going to tell me what OS to install. "Hey dont install Linux coz we dont have iTunes for it yet" This so lame. Apple is going down again. Same stupid arrogant stuff as it did during the mid and late 80's.

Here's my solution to Windows iTunes users: Don't use iTunes :p

Why should I, as a Windows user, suffer because of one application? If everything else works for me, then I'm not going to get upset over one application. I'll continue to use Vista and will wait for iTunes update, as I think most users will.

Well my question is why did Apple, who have had since October to get their hands on a copy of Vista RTM, not update iTunes so it can work on the new OS before it came out in the stores?

You honestly can't see what they're doing?

Look at everything they've said about Microsoft since January 30th. They've been bashing Vista left and right since it's been out.

Obviously because they realize that Vista is a better OS than Tiger. :laugh:

Do you guys even bother reading threads. Apple has already released a patch for the DRM issues. Oh yeah, Apple could care less what OS you run as long as you run it on their hardware. They are not a software company...

Apple to Windows iTunes Users: Don't get Vista yet. It's taking us forever to make iTunes compatible because, despite our claims, Vista is quite a bit different than OS X after all.

What they really want is for Windows users to dump their computers and switch to Mac.

Just another desparate attempt to increase that 3%.

They are not a software company...

Oh that's right, OS X and iTunes just fell from the sky :rolleyes:

With their recent name change (finally admitting they don't make real computers) they are no more a hardware company than a software company.

Do you guys even bother reading threads. Apple has already released a patch for the DRM issues. Oh yeah, Apple could care less what OS you run as long as you run it on their hardware. They are not a software company...

Yeah If you look the repair tool came out on the 1st Feb, can't do much better than that....

But they are both as bad as each other, still waiting for OpenXML on the Mac and a Universal Binary Version.....

Let's see, hold off on upgrading the entire operating system because of one program, or just not use that program. Such a hard choice...

Err.. and then you won't be able to use your iPod? Which is the main point of iTunes? (and don't go suggesting winamp ;))

iTunes annoys me these days. I mean it has the features I want, but it is just so badly coded and resource heavy it is getting beyond a joke. I still use it though, and it is not going to stop me upgrading to Vista (which I am about to do in 30 mins).

I've been running Vista for about a year now and iTunes itself has worked perfectly on it since then. My only problem is that when I plug my iPod in, it loses connection to the PC on a regular basis. Connect, disconnect, connect, disconnect, etc etc. I sure hope they release a patch soon, but as others have said... Vista has been in testing now for years with many early releases being available for Apply to develop on. There is absolutely NO excuse for any software company not having software and drivers ready by now, they just have poor management.

iTunes annoys me these days. I mean it has the features I want, but it is just so badly coded and resource heavy it is getting beyond a joke. I still use it though, and it is not going to stop me upgrading to Vista (which I am about to do in 30 mins).

I agree. iTunes use to be awesome, but now it is a huge resource hog and has way to many bugs in it.

If you've bought hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of music that can only be played by a single proprietary program, then I'm sorry but... :laugh:

My sentiments exactly...

Hence why ive never bought anything from itunes or any other download store, if i want to buy music i'll order the cd at least then i can rip it to whatever format i choose (and before anyone says oh but its copy protected, ive not yet found an audio cd i couldnt rip)

Here's my solution to Windows iTunes users: Don't use iTunes :p

Why should I, as a Windows user, suffer because of one application? If everything else works for me, then I'm not going to get upset over one application. I'll continue to use Vista and will wait for iTunes update, as I think most users will.

Agree. Even if there are issues, Apple just like other developers had plenty of time.

iTunes works for the most part. Every 'Vista' issue I've run across has to do with the iPod synch'ing properly.

Like most developers that seem 'surprised' that Vista is out (for the second time) and still weren't prepared. Wait until YOU fix the issue? Good luck with that.

Agree. Even if there are issues, Apple just like other developers had plenty of time.

Yeah, 5 years :p If you want to be conservative about it they had more than year from when the beta started to when it ended. And then after that they still had time between RTM and actual release to the public.

Why do all of you interpret this as Vista bashing? Apple is obviously going to make iTunes for Vista, there is just a problem with it now. You should be reading it as "Windows iTunes users: if you use iTunes on a regular basis, or have an iPod (which most iTunes users do) we recommend you keep with XP until we get a fix", which, clearly, they have done (see iTunes Windows Vista Repair Tool).

It's a warning; people don't want to upgrade to Vista and suddenly not be able to use their $300 investment properly because they bought a $200 piece of software.

And there wasn't much point in Apple coding iTunes for Vista even since the RC's; the OS kept changing every release, so it was just as well to wait until the end and fix it then. You could say they have had several months to fix it, but it's not like they haven't been doing anything at all.

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