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Grand Master

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I think pple have said that 3.6ghz on this is a breeze =| I don't know, this is off the top of my head, maybe it was 3.2ghz. What memory do u have (PC2-5300?)? 3ghz isn't too shabby tho with everything else @ stock (u're even running a stock cooler right?). I reread the original few posts, no o'cing eh, pffft, throw that out the window lol... Don't forget too, u can turn up the video card fan to help with temps or to o'c more if u really want to. Disable Q-Fan and Speedstep too if u are going to run this o'c all the time :)

If u get around to it Radish, post ur 3dmark again with o'c as a comparison :)

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3.2GHz would be more than enough for this setup, not using the stock cooler but an Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. Currently using Corsair DDR2-5300, I also don't use Q-Fan or Speedstep.

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3ghz seems like a good overclock. Anything beyond that seems kind of pointless. I have also heard that the 6600 will get to 3.2 on stock cooling and up to 4.5 on water. I got mine to 2.97 on stock cooling but the temps are a little higher than what i would like though thats party because my room is so warm.

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Argh, just seem to have bad luck I do :pinch:

Been getting BSOD's of late and the "nv4_disp.dll" file kept on coming up, updated to the latest 158.22 WHQL's with no change. Also I can't seem to extract archives when I downloaded them from the internet.

Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.4 would not extract as part of it's setup and I redownloaded it a few times. Ran CHKDSK /R on the boot drive, and it passed with no errors. Last thing was Memtest, and it fails straight from the start :(

Now gotta get some new RAM :hmmm:

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No that usually means that your ram cant handle your overclock. Try these things and then run another memory test.

1. make sure you increased the latency on the ram. Latency is measured in cycles so if the processor is doing more cycles in a second your ram will have to go faster. Increasing the latencies will give the ram some breathing room.

2. If that doesnt work then try lowering the multiplier on your ram so that it runs at a slower speed but doesnt slow doen your cpu.

3. If all else fails lower overclock.

4. if that doesnt work then you need new ram.

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Good news and bad news (as before) -

Good news - One of the sticks passes on Memtest.

Bad news - The other fails from the start, but they are part of a 2GB Corsair kit. Which probably means I'll have to return both and be without a working PC :(

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sorry to hear that Radish, but I have confidence in Corsair to resolve ur issue :) When u were testing with memtest, was ur o'c profile still intact? Could this also be part of the reason it fails (ie revert things back to stock). Again not o'c and I don't have alot of experience with it to understand if this could be why it is failing. I'm assuming u're working with a ratio or have ur DDR2 set to a specific speed.

Try the latency trick, or over volt the memory. Most of the higher end DDR2 kits are detected as 1.6/1.8V (I forget which one), and the manfuacturer would suggest running at 1.9/2.0/2.1/2.2V (it'll be under warranty so check the website). I'm not sure which exact model u have, I'll assume PC2-5400/DDR2-667 XMS2?

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I think I know what was wrong - the ratio for the RAM. It was running at 5:4, but it doesn't make sense that one of the sticks would be faulty (thought both would be bad).

Anyway, got it on track now with the image attached :D

BFG have said they want the GFX card first before issuing a replacement, and Ebuyer said I can't send a single stick of RAM to them - it has to be the whole kit.

So it looks like I'll have to get some RAM and a cheap PCI-E card, while the RMA's are done :/

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gummyz

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arrrgghhh - bad =|

so u're going to RMA the video card, let me know how that goes, if u are going thru with it :)

For the Ram, I'll assume that one stick is better than the other (it happens) in terms of being able to handle the bandwidth. Yeah we had 1 stick go bad on us here at work (Corsair also), and the guy said no we need the whole kit, not the 1 stick.

You can always get a PCI card for now, then u can let me know about the garbage on the screen if it's still there :p I can't remember for the life of me if my 7800GT had this issue with garbage :(

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Not going to RMA the 8800 GTS for the time being (doesn't really bother me to be honest), the RAM is going to be RMA'ed though (more important).

I'm thinking it's the 8800 BIOS that has the issue.

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gummyz

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dare to update the bios on the video card Mr. Prime? :) I know I don't have the nuts to do that lol. Well u do have 10yrs to decide on the video card. I myself am not bothered by it anymore, but it is something that annoyed me in the beginning since no one has reported this issue on google searches. You're the only one I know that has almost the same setup as myself. Anyhow will be getting a new board eventually so we'll see what happens (possibly in the fall/winter timeframe).

Am interested in seeing how the Ram thing goes Radish. Thanks for posting all ur info and helping me feel at ease with the whole 8800 P5W-DH problem :D

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Is there BIOS updates for the GFX card? :shifty: I'll probably update the motherboard when the X38 chipset is out.

I sent the RAM off yesterday via RM Special Delivery, they recieved it today - hopefully I'll get my new RAM next week (Y)

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^ Guess not :p

Now a technical question, my RAM is currently running at 5-6-6-2 timings. I looked on the Corsair website and it states 5-5-5-15-2T - which is correct and would I see any benefit changing to 5-5-5-15-2T timings?

http://www.corsairmemory.com/configurator/...lts.aspx?id=487 = link to the RAM.

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^ Guess not :p

Now a technical question, my RAM is currently running at 5-6-6-2 timings. I looked on the Corsair website and it states 5-5-5-15-2T - which is correct and would I see any benefit changing to 5-5-5-15-2T timings?

http://www.corsairmemory.com/configurator/...lts.aspx?id=487 = link to the RAM.

Radish™

Did you mean 5-6-6-12? 2 seems kind of tight for the last timing. If it is the same corsair RAM as what I have, it should run fine at 4-4-4-12 2T which will give a little bit better performance than 5-5-5-15 or 5-6-6-12 2T. But I am not sure what would be better between 5-6-6-12 and 5-5-5-15.

edit: I clicked your link, we have different RAM so what I said may not apply.

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Did you mean 5-6-6-12? 2 seems kind of tight for the last timing. If it is the same corsair RAM as what I have, it should run fine at 4-4-4-12 2T which will give a little bit better performance than 5-5-5-15 or 5-6-6-12 2T. But I am not sure what would be better between 5-6-6-12 and 5-5-5-15.

edit: I clicked your link, we have different RAM so what I said may not apply.

EVEREST CPUID -

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...amp;p=588602651

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