A&E: U.S. Government video bio weapon test in New york etc.


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Yepp, U.S Gov./Military did some crazy things...well they still do but it will be 2050 before we figure out the extent to which they screwed us today.

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So what does this have to do with Area51?

On another note, Operation Northwoods is something to research.

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So what does this have to do with Area51?

On another note, Operation Northwoods is something to research.

A partial youtube video of a documentary about something that happened 50 years ago and is linked to several conspiracy boards throughout the net doesn't quite fit as BackPage News. I thought this was a better place for it.

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You know what the Japanese did during the second world war, right?

Stuff like amputating limbs, dissections, freezing limbs then letting them thaw, etc. All while the people were awake (and not under anesthesia).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

And the Nazi's were bad as well.

Yes, but Hitler was dictator. No way this kind of stuff would have happened in any European democracy.

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It depended on who you asked.

Wasn't hitler initially elected? well not technically he was always in second place to Hindenburg but after Hindenburg resigned he appointed hitler

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Wasn't hitler initially elected? well not technically he was always in second place to Hindenburg but after Hindenburg resigned he appointed hitler

Well, he was elected but the circumstances under which Hinderburg appointed him were cast under doubt

Also, the whole country wasn't against him. Due to his impressive propaganda skills, he pit the country against the types of people he didnt like. During the war also, there was a collective war effort showing that he had his country behind him.

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Nearly everygovernment has probley done something rather nasty.

In the UK there is something along the lines of Portland Down. Some rather nasty testing has happend and maybe even still happening.

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Nearly everygovernment has probley done something rather nasty.

In the UK there is something along the lines of Portland Down. Some rather nasty testing has happend and maybe even still happening.

Isn't there a primate research centre at Portland Down?

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Isn't there a primate research centre at Portland Down?

Sorrys it's Porton Down, I seem to get it wrong all the time.

But yes animals are used in testing at this government science park

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Sorrys it's Porton Down, I seem to get it wrong all the time.

But yes animals are used in testing at this government science park

Ah yeah. I remember hearing about that in a lecture awhile back.

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Porton Down - a sinister air?

A sinister air surrounds the subject of chemical weapons, quite different from the power politics of the nuclear arms race.

When terrorists targeted the Japanese subway, it was their use of Sarin gas that caught the public fear. When Saddam Hussain's crimes are mentioned, it is invariably using chemical weapons against the Kurds that is cited.

And some of the mystery is attached to the name of Porton Down, the secret chemical weapons centre in Wiltshire.

The centre, made up of forbiding buildings in 7,000 acres near Salisbury, was set up in 1916 at the height of WWl.

Patrick Mercer, a retired army officer, spent several weeks there on courses designed to tell soldiers about chemical warfare.

"It was hideous," he said, "a hutted camp, where it seemed to do nothing but rain. There were a series of bunkers to which you were thrust from time to time to be gassed with CS gas and to go through ghastly exercises underground wearing a gas mask."

[ image: Ronald Maddison: Took part in experiments in 1953]

Ronald Maddison: Took part in experiments in 1953

During WWII Porton Down started researching a new menace - biological weapons, but during the Cold War chemical weapons became the top priority.

For many years, the mere fact that there was a chemical weapon research centre there was secret, but after it was admitted in the late 1960s, it became the most controversial military establishment in the UK.

To test the effectiveness of nerve agents such as Sarin, servicemen were offered about ?2 and a pass for three days' precious leave if they voluteered to take part in tests.

Rob Evans, a journalist researching a book into the experiments, said the main reason people volunteered was because they were bored with life at their own military establishments.

"They wanted to get away for any type of break, just anything. As soon as something came up. . .they would step forward, say yes, I'll take that.

"But sadly very few actually knew what Porton Down was, or what they were letting themselves in for."

Allegations

Wiltshire detectives are investigating allegations that in 1953 one serviceman, Ronald Maddison, died after taking part in a Sarin gas experiment. It is claimed that he thought he was taking part in a programme designed to find a cure for the common cold.

But the Maddison death was not the only thing to go wrong at the centre.

Rob Evans said: "The two most embarrassing accidents, and they are more tragic than embarrassing, were the death of Ronald Maddison and also the death of one of their own scientists Geoffrey Bacon in 1962, who died of plague."

Since the end of WWI, 20,000 people have taken part in experiments at Porton Down, and it is thought that there are a further 300 servicemen waiting to begin legal actions against the Ministry of Defence.

and of course the Wiki has some details - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down.

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