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I don't know why everybody is complaining about no 3G, you can only get 3G in select high population areas anyway. It does support EDGE, so it's not like the speeds will be *that* slow.

i didn't even know what EDGE and all this stuff was but I looked it up and it looks like it could be a problem. The avg speed for EDGE is 70-135kbps according to AT&T so that's like 2x faster than a dialup modem. That's pretty darn slow especially when they're showing off full how it can load full webpages like nytimes.com and interfacing with google maps

people who can afford this $500-600 probably live near high population areas too...not the country side or on farms.

i didn't even know what EDGE and all this stuff was but I looked it up and it looks like it could be a problem. The avg speed for EDGE is 70-135kbps according to AT&T so that's like 2x faster than a dialup modem. That's pretty darn slow especially when they're showing off full how it can load full webpages like nytimes.com and interfacing with google maps

people who can afford this $500-600 probably live near high population areas too...not the country side or on farms.

That's not that slow for viewing webpages, maybe downloading though. 3G is available in select high population areas, not all. They have a city by city listing of everywhere but there are a lot of major cities missing, for instance Pittsburg. NYC is the only city in the entire state of New York covered.

Also, most of the people who can afford the phone live in the suburbs which a lot of the time aren't covered by 3G. I would say 3G coverage is probably available to less than 20% of AT&T Wireless customers. Admittedly, not having 3G is a let down, but it's not a huge reason to pass up the phone.

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That's not that slow for viewing webpages, maybe downloading though. 3G is available in select high population areas, not all. They have a city by city listing of everywhere but there are a lot of major cities missing, for instance Pittsburg is not on there.

Also, most of the people who can afford the phone live in the suburbs which a lot of the time aren't covered by 3G.

haha. funny that you picked pittsburgh...i'm from there :)

you made valid points. i'm going to get it no matter what, but i do still wish there were faster speeds available

haha. funny that you picked pittsburgh...i'm from there :)

you made valid points. i'm going to get it no matter what, but i do still wish there were faster speeds available

Yeah, I'm from PA too (Northeast). I thought it was wierd that Allentown was on there but not Pittsburg.

I don't know why everybody is complaining about no 3G, you can only get 3G in select high population areas anyway. It does support EDGE, so it's not like the speeds will be *that* slow.

I know the situation may be different in the USA, but I'm from the Rhondda Valley in south wales, hardly somewhere that gets new tech first, yet we have 3G coverage.

The combination of no 3G and the pricing (total of over $1000) makes it a non starter IMO.

note - I got the price from the $500 for the 4GB version, and then if you take a $30 a month contract over 2 years (which is what apple said it would be when they announced the iPhone), you get $1220 - and thats with the cheapest iPhone, and a pretty cheap contract).

Well I still have another year or so on my Verizon contract. I think due to that, I will wait for Rev. B or C of the iPhone before I get one.

However I am really excited about this phone, even if I don't get one for a year or so. Finally a phone that has a good UI. Current cell phones really frustrate me.

According to various sites that I've read rumors are abound that Apple would be foolish not to release a 3G capable phone for the European market as 3G is so widespread across Europe. In fact, whatever European network carrier Apple has in mind I'm sure the inclusion of 3G will be discussed as an essential requirement. Pity it won't be released here until the end of 2007 or even start of 2008!

Will I want one? Yes.

Will I get one? More than likely.

Woa! I can't believe people are ready to plunk down so much cash on a phone.

Well its not just a phone is it? I mean sure a phone can be had cheaper but how much for a phone + 4gb mp3 player + something with a fair bit of pda functionality. It's pretty pointless to just call it a phone as really it's doing alot more and I'd hazard a guess that the phone functionality is the last thing on most peoples minds if they are seriously going to buy this (although that can be said about most phone products to be honest where ppl look more at the camera than the calling capabilities).

At $500 US it doesnt seem that unrealistically priced in comparrison to devices, at least here in australia, offering that sort of functionality. We have many sony erricsons, nokias, whatevers selling for $800AU upwards which under a straight currency conversion would be more than the $500US asking price and probably wouldnt have close to the 4GB memory out of the box.

So while I agree its alot for a device it does become alot cheaper if your buying it to actually make use of all the functionality and not just make calls on it. You also pay for the convinience of having that in one device. I know other companies have products that can do all of this too, and if that suits people then buy them then, no biggie.

Thanks to all the brainwashing by Apple I will have my iPhone at the end of this month.

Apple banks on the mindless sheep that buy their products just because they "look good". There's nothing innovative or 'must have' about the iPhone, it's just a very cool set of gimmicks all rolled into a pleasant package, at a premium price.

Truthfully, if you're stupid enough to buy the iPhone, you deserve to be fleeced. Ironically all the people getting it to be cool will suddenly find that everyone else around them also owns one, making it totally uncool to own in the end.

I'm personally enjoying my super-thin, super-useful and versatile SE W880i which has everything (including 3G) in a package much smaller than the iPhone, and much more unique.

Apple banks on the mindless sheep that buy their products just because they "look good". There's nothing innovative or 'must have' about the iPhone...
The same could be said for just about any product. Your entire post is based on your opinion, someone else's opinion might be different than yours, that does make them mindless, just someone who has a different opinion than you.
Apple banks on the mindless sheep that buy their products just because they "look good". There's nothing innovative or 'must have' about the iPhone, it's just a very cool set of gimmicks all rolled into a pleasant package, at a premium price.

Truthfully, if you're stupid enough to buy the iPhone, you deserve to be fleeced. Ironically all the people getting it to be cool will suddenly find that everyone else around them also owns one, making it totally uncool to own in the end.

I'm personally enjoying my super-thin, super-useful and versatile SE W880i which has everything (including 3G) in a package much smaller than the iPhone, and much more unique.

Your bragging about your "cool and unique" phone only shows that you have the same mindset as the "mindless sheep" you're mocking, you only chose a different company than them.

Apple banks on the mindless sheep that buy their products just because they "look good". There's nothing innovative or 'must have' about the iPhone, it's just a very cool set of gimmicks all rolled into a pleasant package, at a premium price.

The iPhone has the most innovative GUI in the history of cell phones. It is simple, to the point, and yet powerful. And oh yes, looks very nice.

For once, I will actually want to use my cell phone. Imagine that?

At $500 US it doesnt seem that unrealistically priced in comparrison to devices, at least here in australia, offering that sort of functionality. We have many sony erricsons, nokias, whatevers selling for $800AU upwards which under a straight currency conversion would be more than the $500US asking price and probably wouldnt have close to the 4GB memory out of the box.

true, but most of the phones I've seen at a similar price here in the UK are on pay as you go or sim free. With the iPhone, your tied into a contract, so aswell as the $500 or $600 you pay when you get the phone, you will also have to be $30 or $40 (or whatever) a month for two years. (thats going on what was said when apple announced the iPhone, and assuming apple don't change their mind and offer an awesome deal).

Well its not just a phone is it? I mean sure a phone can be had cheaper but how much for a phone + 4gb mp3 player + something with a fair bit of pda functionality. It's pretty pointless to just call it a phone as really it's doing alot more and I'd hazard a guess that the phone functionality is the last thing on most peoples minds if they are seriously going to buy this (although that can be said about most phone products to be honest where ppl look more at the camera than the calling capabilities).

True, but then when it dies, you loose your Phone, Mp3 player, and PDA. Thats why I like to keep them separate.

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