Apple's "New" GUI

[osirisX]

No, no and no to the blurring. It starts to look awful the minute you start stacking up windows.

[.Neo]

No, no and no to the blurring. It starts to look awful the minute you start stacking up windows.

When did it became possible to stack up Menu Bars and Dock labels? HUD Panels can only be stacked up per application, because they disappear when another application takes focus. Plus it doesn't have to be anywhere as dramatic as the effect is on Vista.

In your opinion, in mine - I find the interface more subtle than OS/X.

Yup perfectly possible. Some people just prefer gigantic window borders and bright colors.

Cupertino start your photocopiers ;-)

It doesn't have to be a blur effect, some sort of dimming or different warp technique would be fine too. I believe the Menubar already makes the colors behind it more saturated, but it's a bit hard to tell for sure. :p

Yea, I have to admit I like the taskbar (except for the round orb thingy), but I don't like the transparency/UI anywhere else.

In that case, I'm pretty sure you'll like the new Menu Bar as well once you see it up close in person. With a different desktop background of course. ;)

[osirisX]

It totally needs the Time Machine warp behind it :p

[.Neo]

It totally needs the Time Machine warp behind it :p

Totally! With planets flying around and everything. :woot: Take that Windows Vista!! :trout:

:laugh:

[+Fahim S. MVC]

Yup perfectly possible. Some people just prefer gigantic window borders and bright colors.

I'd agree that the default colour is quite poor - I have mine set to a mid grey which is much more comfortable. As for the border thickness, you really don't notice it when you are working on the system, to be honest I prefer it over the borderless look of OS/X - but that is just me, and you can make them smaller.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Fahim S

[.Neo]

As for the border thickness, you really don't notice it when you are working on the system

I do all too well. Especially when using it on a screen that has a resolution lower than 1600x1050.

[osirisX]

Totally! With planets flying around and everything. :woot: Take that Windows Vista!! :trout:

:laugh:

I never noticed it before, but all the stars and the gas are moving in the Time Machine warp. So it would auto-pwn Vista :p

[.Neo]

I never noticed it before, but all the stars and the gas are moving in the Time Machine warp. So it would auto-pwn Vista :p

Yeah, the space environment is a Core Image .qtz file. Basically it's like a screen saver running in the background.

[FOOOD]

In that case, I'm pretty sure you'll like the new Menu Bar as well once you see it up close in person. With a different desktop background of course. ;)

Maybe once I give it a try I'll like it? I might even like the background once I've tried with the menu bar & dock?

(It's not been unknown for me to change my mind about something when I've tried it for a while :whistle: )

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

It's basically just Column view in the Finder, other than not having the "breadcrumb" bar above the other folders (which you don't need in the Finder since you can scroll left and right through the columns, which you couldn't do in the NeXT file browser). In 10.2 and earlier, Finder was even more like the NeXT version since it had the favorites at the top instead of at the left as in the current version (shown below).

Yeah, but i'd like something with a breadcrumb bar and such, basically i just hate the current finder, the one in leopard might change my sentiments, but who knows.

At that stage the Dock simply didn't support real transparency, so it was just a placeholder. By the time Mac OS X 10.0 Cheetah went GM it was fully transparent, like it still is today (apart from a pinstriped background).

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In the picture that was posted before, it showed that the window manager supported true transparency (title bars, sheets, menus, etc.), so it wasn't a technical limitation, they decided to add pictures for a reason.

[Guest]

In the picture that was posted before, it showed that the window manager supported true transparency (title bars, sheets, menus, etc.), so it wasn't a technical limitation, they decided to add pictures for a reason.

No, the dock simply didn't support scalable transparent tiffs at the time that screenshot was released, even though much of the interface supported transparency.

[osirisX]

Maybe they were just busy working on other parts of the OS at the time and weren't bothered with making the Dock fully transparent.

[Guest]

Maybe they were just busy working on other parts of the OS at the time and weren't bothered with making the Dock fully transparent.

I remember when I first saw that screenshot with one of my mates a few years ago before os x was even out in public beta and we couldn't stop lauging at how stupid the dock looked. Then they finished it and we were totally in love with it!

[.Neo]

No, the dock simply didn't support scalable transparent tiffs at the time that screenshot was released, even though much of the interface supported transparency.

What he said.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Well, the screenshot shows the dock scaling icons, while keeping the transparency (which is drawn onto the images, themselves drawn onto a transparent window)

[KeR]

What are the rules of posting screen shots of the desktop, here on Neowin?

[crazzyyfool]

What are the rules of posting screen shots of the desktop, here on Neowin?

Do it. Do it. Do it. :cool:

[Southern Patriot]

Yeah, but i'd like something with a breadcrumb bar and such, basically i just hate the current finder, the one in leopard might change my sentiments, but who knows.

I'm not sure if you ever noticed, but you can sort of have a breadcrumb bar in Finder as well (I never noticed it till the other day myself). Customize the toolbar and add the Path widget.

[.Neo]

Well, the screenshot shows the dock scaling icons, while keeping the transparency (which is drawn onto the images, themselves drawn onto a transparent window)

What you see is multiple solid square boxes changing size.

[.Neo]

I'm not sure if you ever noticed, but you can sort of have a breadcrumb bar in Finder as well (I never noticed it till the other day myself). Customize the toolbar and add the Path widget.

You can achieve the same effect by holding down command and pressing the window title as such:

[giga Veteran]

What are the rules of posting screen shots of the desktop, here on Neowin?

Don't. Apple will get on our tail.

[.Neo]

Did ThinkSecret receive a cease and desist order already? :p

[PyX]

Bah, from now on things are simply out of control for Apple...

[Southern Patriot]

Bah, from now on things are simply out of control for Apple...

Yep. Leopard 9A466 has started showing up on torrent sites already. It will make it to Usenet before long, then there's not much Apple can do about it spreading.

[.Neo]

haha it's popping up everywhere like crazy. Pretty fun to watch actually. :p