Apple's "New" GUI

[Quillz]

Dashboard : no longer has the small glowing dot at the bottom to say it's open. why?

Stacks : Really nice!

It's likely just a bug/oversight, unless they are treating it like the Finder now, whereas it's always on and can't really be "turned off." The only other thing I can think of is maybe the active mark only appears when the Dashboard itself actually appears now.

[PyX]

No, even when I am right into Dashbord, the bulb doesn't show! As you said, probably just a bug, because it's still there below the Finder icon.

The more I play with it, the more I realize that the biggest bugs are in the GUI. Some things need to be aligned, smaller, bigger, some icons are missing (stacks), etc. Let's say that I would ALMOST use it on a daily basis. If they speed up the graphics and they fix the GUI bugs in the next release, it will be usable on a daily basis.

By the way, nobody talked about the memory management, but it is MUCH better than in Tiger, there's no doubt about it. There's no more unactive memory that is allocated to random stuff. I felt like my 2GB of memory became suddenly useless in Tiger, because it would assign pretty much all of it.

The other thing maybe, that would push me to use it more often is if the foreign language support was more complete, I installed it in french and half of the OS is in french, half of it in English. Ok ok, I know that these are things you do at the end, so it's not really a complaint.

[osirisX]

Apparent roadmap for Leopard: http://www.macscoop.com/articles/2007/06/2...oadmap-revealed

[.Neo]

No, even when I am right into Dashbord, the bulb doesn't show! As you said, probably just a bug, because it's still there below the Finder icon.

The Finder and Dashboard are entirely unrelated. The Finder's black triangle/spot of light shows the exact same behaviour as any application in the Dock would. If you quit the Finder the triangle/spot will disappear. When you launch the Finder again it reappears. So I wouldn't know what's special about it, apart from the fact its alias has been locked in the Dock.

Dashboard however is a subprocess of the Dock (just like Expos? and I believe Spaces as well): It's not a stand-alone application, and "Dashboard.app" is little more than a script to trigger the Dashboard layer (like F12 does). Personally I think Apple just added an extra line of code to the Dock telling it to show a black triangle under Dashboard's icon at all times, to make it look more default. They seem to have removed that in Mac OS X Leopard. Maybe because it's possible now to add Expos? and Spaces to the Dock as well, which are essentially the same thing: Triggers.

Apparent roadmap for Leopard: http://www.macscoop.com/articles/2007/06/2...oadmap-revealed

Interesting. God knows they still have a lot of work on their hands cleaning up all the UI bugs:pinch:h:

[osirisX]

I believe Expos? and Spaces are subprocesses of the Finder. Because I just disabled Dashboard and I can still use Expos?.

[.Neo]

I believe Expos? and Spaces are subprocesses of the Finder. Because I just disabled Dashboard and I can still use Expos?.

Expos?, Spaces and Dashboard are all subprocesses of the Dock. Disabling Dashboard won't affect Expos? in any way unless you disable Dock.app entirely.

TimeMachine on the other hand is a subprocess of the Finder in Mac OS X Leopard (from what I can tell).

[osirisX]

Oops :s Can I retract that post please? :p

And you're right. Killed the Dock and before it restarted itself I couldn't use Expos?

[.Neo]

Yeah, there's no dependency between the subprocesses. It all revolves around Dock.app.

[osirisX]

Oh and what kind of UI bugs are there?

[.Neo]

Oh and what kind of UI bugs are there?

? Misalignment of elements;

? Most of the old-styled icons (mostly folder icons) haven't been updated with new ones;

? Resource folders need to be cleaned up;

? Some elements use Lucida Grande others use Myriad;

? Spotlight Search of the Menubar is grey when Aqua is selected. Overal the Menubar could use some tweaking.

Stuff like that.

[Elliott]

? Spotlight Search of the Menubar is grey when Aqua is selected. Overal the Menubar could use some tweaking.

Stuff like that.

Like this? :

If so, that's not a bug. That's normal. That image is pulled right from Apple's site.

[.Neo]

Mac OS X Tiger used to display graphite pushed states for the Menu Bar's endcaps, which also appeared on one or two screen shots on the Apple site. They end up correcting it. So just because something makes it onto the Apple site doesn't mean it's normal or that it will stay that way.

Hopefully they'll change it, because it looks plain wrong when using Blue.

[KeR]

Might be me, but one thing I have noticed is Leopard is fast. Also I find the huge shadows distracting.

[Southern Patriot]

Not really related to the GUI, but I did just notice something after finally getting it installed: generic burners (like my USB BenQ drive) are now supported without PatchBurn! About damned time!!!

[.Kompressor]

I was looking at the icons on the beta released at WWDC and there's a funny icon for "public generic PC" ...took a screen shot.

ROFL :rofl:

[FOOOD]

Like this? :

If so, that's not a bug. That's normal. That image is pulled right from Apple's site.

Looks like a bug how when you click on the Apple menu icon & menu items the icon & text change to white, but the Spotlight icon remains black when clicked on :blink:

[.Neo]

Might be me, but one thing I have noticed is Leopard is fast. Also I find the huge shadows distracting.

Haven't really noticed a real speed gain. :/

I was looking at the icons on the beta released at WWDC and there's a funny icon for "public generic PC" ...took a screen shot.

ROFL :rofl:

Yeah I posted that a few pages back, brilliant. :laugh:

[osirisX]

I love the detail of that icon in the 512 version. All of the text is correct :p

[Southern Patriot]

Not really related to the GUI, but I did just notice something after finally getting it installed: generic burners (like my USB BenQ drive) are now supported without PatchBurn! About damned time!!!

Well, perhaps this is something that's not quite done yet because while System Profiler says that burning is supported on my drive, Disk Utility says it isn't. Unfortunately, PatchBurn crashes on Leopard. I wonder if it's possible to copy the profile that PatchBurn generates on Tiger into Leopard?

[+Fahim S. MVC]

I was looking at the icons on the beta released at WWDC and there's a funny icon for "public generic PC" ...took a screen shot.

ROFL :rofl:

That is really cool, but they could have used the one from 2000/XP/Vista instead of the 9x series bluescreen.

[.Neo]

That is really cool, but they could have used the one from 2000/XP/Vista instead of the 9x series bluescreen.

I wonder if that icon will make it into the final version. Or if it's just a developer's joke.

[osirisX]

I reckon it's a final version. Compare it to the pre-WWDC 07 builds that had the Matrix Terminal icon. This generic PC icon is extremely polished. It even has a 16 px optimized version. I'd say it's final.

Edited June 25, 2007 by osirisX

[.Neo]

well it isn't exactly rocket science to replace the blue screen inside. Especially not when you have your PSD ready.

[LTD]

Just noticing that Leopard likes to take its time when playing moves (via quicktime itself or quicklook preview) that require perian/avi/xvid codecs. With Tiger, preview and playback was instant. On Leopard, you have to wait a bit until the movie/clip appears. Probably a bug, since recognition in Tiger was instantaneous.

[Elliott]

Definitely plenty of UI bugs in Leopard. It's actually pretty stable for me though. Finder's crashed once since I started using it this morning, and that was when using Cover Flow over the network.