Blu-ray disc coatings starting to rot?

[Samboini]

We can't really comment until we fully appreciate what is occuring here, however if this is not as Prestige only problem, i.e. a widespread BD one, this will **** them up no end.

[gigapixels Veteran]

Like I said, even if this isn't that big of a deal, if the media gets a hold of the story and blows it way out of proportion, then Blu-ray will have a hard time recovering from it. It doesn't matter what the truth is as long as there's a small doubt in the back of a consumer's mind.

[L3thal Veteran]

For those confused or have no idea who owns Blu-Ray, this will help you out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association

[Kushan]

Personally, I don't want either format to win. I don't see them as being a big enough leap from DVD to be worth the bother to upgrade.

I mean, CD's to DVD's was a HUGE leap, more than 10x the space (with dual layers, that is). I think for a new format to be really worthwhile, it should be a similar jump because even with 25Gb of space, you still have to compress everything.

Although in saying that, a lot of HD-DVD's and Blu-ray disks only have DVD quality stuff on them anyway (usually the extras and such).

[Green_Eye]

For those confused or have no idea who owns Blu-Ray, this will help you out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association

Damn diggidy thats a butt load of supporters they got there :|

[Tech Star]

Its only one movie. There was a slip up prob. Human error. Its not Sony's fault. Get over it.

[Ferret]

What is actually coated on these disc's to cause the rotting ?

[theyarecomingforyou]

There was a slip up prob. Human error. Its not Sony's fault.

Where is the evidence for that? I don't think this is a serious issue but making points up to defend them is ridiculous.

[Jason S. Global Moderator]

Personally, I don't want either format to win. I don't see them as being a big enough leap from DVD to be worth the bother to upgrade.

I mean, CD's to DVD's was a HUGE leap, more than 10x the space (with dual layers, that is). I think for a new format to be really worthwhile, it should be a similar jump because even with 25Gb of space, you still have to compress everything.

Although in saying that, a lot of HD-DVD's and Blu-ray disks only have DVD quality stuff on them anyway (usually the extras and such).

even w/ holographic storage, you still need to compress the video. it's simply too big uncompressed.

and what you said in the first paragraph is redundant everytime new tech. comes out. remember when we thought we'd never need a 1GB hard drive? who needs a cpu faster than 500MHz?

[Samboini]

What is actually coated on these disc's to cause the rotting ?

I've heard it was agar jelly :ninja:

[Kushan]

I'm aware of the size of completely uncompressed digital video, but my main point was that even Blu-ray is little over twice the storage space of a DVD9. Even if it was dual layer, it's still only about 4 or 5 times the space increase, doesn't really justify upgrading from DVD, which hasn't really been pushed to it's limits for anything other than High-resolution Video (and even that is a sketchy one for a lot of released stuff).

I think I, and most other people, are happy enough with DVD's at the moment. I mean HD-TV's themselves are still in their relative infancy when compared to the market for SD TV's. Eventually that'll change, but until it does the only real potential market for either of the HD formats lies within that same HD-TV market, so it's going to be YEARS before either one of them has a hope of overtaking DVD.

And in that time, a new format could be researched, developed and ratified, possibly even the mentioned holographic technology, that would make much more sense to upgrade to.

[Deadlydread]

My god people, it was a small batch of one freakin movie. its not the nail in the coffin for Sony. Get over it you Blu-Ray haters. I'll be happy when either HDdvd or BluRay win, so this damn arguing will cease.

[Samboini]

I'm aware of the size of completely uncompressed digital video, but my main point was that even Blu-ray is little over twice the storage space of a DVD9. Even if it was dual layer, it's still only about 4 or 5 times the space increase, doesn't really justify upgrading from DVD, which hasn't really been pushed to it's limits for anything other than High-resolution Video (and even that is a sketchy one for a lot of released stuff).

I think I, and most other people, are happy enough with DVD's at the moment. I mean HD-TV's themselves are still in their relative infancy when compared to the market for SD TV's. Eventually that'll change, but until it does the only real potential market for either of the HD formats lies within that same HD-TV market, so it's going to be YEARS before either one of them has a hope of overtaking DVD.

And in that time, a new format could be researched, developed and ratified, possibly even the mentioned holographic technology, that would make much more sense to upgrade to.

I appreciate what you are saying but you can't feasibly put off upgrading technology forever! Technology moves at such a quick rate now that one would expect to lose at least a couple of grand every couple of years (ballpark figure, don't flame!) As an example, you might be interested in this, I know I am; Ultra High Definition Video! What next, uber super mega HD? :p

[Deadlydread]

I'm aware of the size of completely uncompressed digital video, but my main point was that even Blu-ray is little over twice the storage space of a DVD9. Even if it was dual layer, it's still only about 4 or 5 times the space increase, doesn't really justify upgrading from DVD, which hasn't really been pushed to it's limits for anything other than High-resolution Video (and even that is a sketchy one for a lot of released stuff).

I think I, and most other people, are happy enough with DVD's at the moment. I mean HD-TV's themselves are still in their relative infancy when compared to the market for SD TV's. Eventually that'll change, but until it does the only real potential market for either of the HD formats lies within that same HD-TV market, so it's going to be YEARS before either one of them has a hope of overtaking DVD.

And in that time, a new format could be researched, developed and ratified, possibly even the mentioned holographic technology, that would make much more sense to upgrade to.

Its alot more than 2x the space of a DVD9. get your facts straight before you decide to bash.

[southside]

Great. I want HD-DVD to win.

[Kushan]

Its alot more than 2x the space of a DVD9. get your facts straight before you decide to bash.

I'm not bashing a thing, i'm just comparing the differences....

A DVD9 is about 9Gb (it's a bit less than that, I know), so 2x that is 18Gb. 3x that is 27Gb, more than a Blu-Ray disk, so I said it's a little more than 2x the space, I could have said "it's a little less than 3x the space", it wouldn't have made a difference, I was just speaking generally because that was all I needed. Sheesh.

[Purple Haze]

Either way, if a format doesn't win soon, both may lose. People don't wanna be stuck w/ the next Betamax.

[theyarecomingforyou]

3x that is 27Gb, more than a Blu-Ray disk, so I said it's a little more than 2x the space

Blu-Ray is 50GB for the dual-layer discs, with discs up to 200GB round the corner. Your arguement is completely flawed.

[ironsight2000]

both will lose in a year or two with HD space getting so cheap just put every thing on a flash card. just like the white strips and barenaked ladys did with their music the same could happen with dvds

[Deadlydread]

Blu-Ray is 50GB for the dual-layer discs, with discs up to 200GB round the corner. Your arguement is completely flawed.

Thanks for clarifying that. ;) I think he was talkin about the single layer, which isn't even used by most.

[Kushan]

Blu-Ray is 50GB for the dual-layer discs, with discs up to 200GB round the corner. Your arguement is completely flawed.

I never said that a dual-layer Blu-ray disk was anything less than 50Gb and if you bothered to read what I posted, I mentioned that dual layer disks were twice as big as the standard ones....

My point is, neither format is worth the upgrade yet, disk capacity is only part of the reasoning why.

[Toology]

My point is, neither format is worth the upgrade yet, disk capacity is only part of the reasoning why.

Yes, disc capacity that facilitates higher quality content.

[Shof]

i think someone messed up with the disc, like apply the deadly sun to it

[Robgig1088]

Yes, disc capacity that facilitates higher quality content.

I'm with you on this one. The reason I'm a blu-ray supporter is because it's genuinely superior technology.

As far as the article, get over it. All companies cut corners in some way. Need I remind you of the Polio vaccine? At least this time it's only plastic which I'm sure will be replaced upon confirmation of the problem.

[Shof]

I'm with you on this one. The reason I'm a blu-ray supporter is because it's genuinely superior technology.

As far as the article, get over it. All companies cut corners in some way. Need I remind you of the Polio vaccine? At least this time it's only plastic which I'm sure will be replaced upon confirmation of the problem.

another possibility is that the company that makes these cds received a bad batch of plastic?