For God's sake! Fix the Folder View settings bug!

[:: Lyon ::]

This is something that never really bothered me in XP, but in Vista....

Have you tried running XP without the Service Packs? ^^

[Medking]

Hey everyone,

i have this exact same problem.

Another one which I would like fixed is where I have resized my window or whatever, and then closed the folder window. When I open it up again it is the same very small size. i change it back and close it but it is now stuck as coming up quite small and rectangular. Really ticking me off

Medking

[Riffz]

I agree that this "by design" function is stupid. When I click "apply to all folders", surprisingly enough I do actually mean it.

[apollo_1444]

happens to me the whole time

[tao muon]

So, how about this:

Everyone that has replied to this thread complaining about the alleged bug- have you tweaked Vista at all, and if so, what tweak?

Disable UAC, mucked with Readyboost, etc.?

'cause if you're going to claim a bug, it has to be reproduced.

[JustGeorge]

If they spent as much time fixing bugs as they did developing the next revision of WGA, we'd be nearly bug free by now :(

[Preppy Veteran]

^-- Meh, totally unrelated tidbits. WGA team != shell team.

Tao's spot on: how do you repro this?

It is true that a user applied custom view should override / turn off the folder view content sniffer, so the question then gets to be: what is awry here and causing the issue?

[AltecXP]

never had this use on any Vista PC

[tao muon]

And why is the columns in details view very, very small. I have to keep right-clicking on the tiitle head and click "Size all culumns to all" on every folder. How do I make it the default.

Have you ever thought about uploading a screen shot so we know what you're talking about?

[ozgeek]

I have not enabled any tweaks except VistaGlazz.

I don't know what is doing this behaviour. When I changed, for example, my downloads folder (not the default download folder but my custom downloads folder on my other drive). When I set it to show details with information about each download. After a while like in the afternoon, the view setting of the download folder has changed to all tiles and tools in the blue toolbar shows tools related to music like Play. There are actually NO music in the folder, only pictures executible files I downloaded from the net. So what I do is I have to change it BACK to my prefered setting but that too won't last longer as it changes to thumbnails with pictures tools. What I would like it to do is LEAVE MY FOLDERS ALONE. It did not have my permission to change anything without my consent.

tao muon, to answer your request, I've created a new folder with some example new files as well as some of my downloads. Look at the columns. That is the DEFAULT widths. The only difference is that I've made the folder window size bigger since it looks small on my 20" widescreen lcd. What I mean is that it's hard to work out what files they are, especaially I have a folder full of PixelPerfect and all files starts with "PixelPerfect".....

Edited June 20, 2007 by ozgeek

[WooSH]

first of all, its God's SAKE. not *STAKE* it would've been funny as hell if you went around the rest of your life saying that and been corrected in person and looked like a fool rather than an online forum.

and back to topic, this DID happen in Windows XP from time to time, however i havent seen this in Vista once (based on 3 months). why? maybe because i have five total folders that i use : Music, Pictures, Documents, Downloads, Videos. done deal, no exceptions. obviosuly the system has its own folders that it creates, but those are the only folders i ever access and every modify. my system stays ultra fast, easy to defragment, backup and clean.

[JustGeorge]

^-- Meh, totally unrelated tidbits. WGA team != shell team.

Tao's spot on: how do you repro this?

It is true that a user applied custom view should override / turn off the folder view content sniffer, so the question then gets to be: what is awry here and causing the issue?

I was speaking in terms of eagerness/willingness to fix a problem. Glitches like this rarely ever get fixed, but you can bet your tail that there will always be an updated version of WGA.

[tao muon]

I have not enabled any tweaks except VistaGlazz.

...

What is that?

What did you have to do to install it?

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

It seems to happen to me when i navigate between folders, e.g. i click up a few times to go to the desktop, then use the history to go back to my downloads folder, and the view is reset.

I normally have it on tiles, grouped, sorted by modification date, sometimes it reverts to tiles, ungrouped, sorted by date, sometimes it forgets the tiles all together.

[tao muon]

I was speaking in terms of eagerness/willingness to fix a problem. Glitches like this rarely ever get fixed, but you can bet your tail that there will always be an updated version of WGA.

Oh, so WGA releases come out more often than vulnerability fixes, shell patches, exploit patches and...?

Whatever. I think Vista has had two WGA 'updates' since RTM. And how many monthly patches, and 'out of band' security fixes?

Yeah, ok.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

We've heard reports of this, but have never been able to reproduce it internally (either in a test environment, or even just on any of our own daily use machines). It's possible some third-party tools or add-in is messing things up, but it's hard to say for sure without a solid repro case and a debugger.

[tao muon]

We've heard reports of this, but have never been able to reproduce it internally (either in a test environment, or even just on any of our own daily use machines). It's possible some third-party tools or add-in is messing things up, but it's hard to say for sure without a solid repro case and a debugger.

Exactly.

How can you fix a bug if you can't even establish 'one' verifiable circumstance when it happens?

And, for some reason, people won't tell you what's been installed, what registry tweaks, what other things have been done.

But, they still complain about it and expect it to be fixed?

I guess it's true what they say: "You're either part of the problem or part of the solution."

[0sit0]

happens to me all the timel... i dont get upset though.. i just fix all the folders again :s lol

oh and its not a vista problem only.. happened in XP as well

[JustGeorge]

Oh, so WGA releases come out more often than vulnerability fixes, shell patches, exploit patches and...?

Whatever. I think Vista has had two WGA 'updates' since RTM. And how many monthly patches, and 'out of band' security fixes?

Yeah, ok.

You're missing my point. Yes, they do fix security vulnerabilities, as well as update WGA, but how often do you ever see a patch on WU that fixes annoying non-security related problems? About the only ones I see are there to fix problems caused by a security patch.

Lets just forget this discussion and get back on topic. Sorry to bring it up.

[tao muon]

You're missing my point. Yes, they do fix security vulnerabilities, as well as update WGA, but how often do you ever see a patch on WU that fixes annoying non-security related problems? About the only ones I see are there to fix problems caused by a security patch.

Lets just forget this discussion and get back on topic. Sorry to bring it up.

So what do you think is more important- security / vulerability fixes or GUI / 'format my columns and view' patches?

Does that explain why you see more of one and not the other?

Would you rather they fix serious problems first or your GUI problems?

Don't you think rendering issues can wait til the service pack?

Personally, I don't have ANY problems with folders remembering their view state, so this is a non-issue to me. But for those that complain, what is the problem with prioritizing?

[BriFi]

Same here... Whats also dumb is when I make a new folder it sometimes shows a album art image for the folder when the folder is not even in my music folder, why it would do that anyways even if I did make a new folder in my music folder. And when in the c: drive theres some folders in there that have album art set for its folder when I didn't even set it to do that, when trying to set it back to it original state it doesn't let me.

And one time I went into my music folder and a some of my folders set with album art were all mixed around, so I had to redo a butch of folders to get them back to the way I had them.

Plus Vista is slow at booting up, slow at moving files around, superfetch doesn't do jack... all in all its one big system hog piece of s**t. And yes, my system is double the system requirements.

Guess thats why I switched to Ubuntu.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

You're missing my point. Yes, they do fix security vulnerabilities, as well as update WGA, but how often do you ever see a patch on WU that fixes annoying non-security related problems? About the only ones I see are there to fix problems caused by a security patch.

If it's not a security issue or something incredibly prevalent and disasterous (data loss, etc) - then it's not worth it to release it via WU. Fixes like that would come in a service pack, or in the next version. And possibly released as an on-request hotfix if it's important enough.

[tao muon]

...

Guess thats why I switched to Ubuntu.

And you're still complaining?

Last time I pined over something that long was when my girlfriend in junior high school wouldn't...

Oh, nevermind. I just answered my own question.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Same here... Whats also dumb is when I make a new folder it sometimes shows a album art image for the folder when the folder is not even in my music folder, why it would do that anyways even if I did make a new folder in my music folder. And when in the c: drive theres some folders in there that have album art set for its folder when I didn't even set it to do that, when trying to set it back to it original state it doesn't let me.

And one time I went into my music folder and a some of my folders set with album art were all mixed around, so I had to redo a butch of folders to get them back to the way I had them.

Plus Vista is slow at booting up, slow at moving files around, superfetch doesn't do jack... all in all its one big system hog piece of s**t. And yes, my system is double the system requirements.

Guess thats why I switched to Ubuntu.

Riiiiiiiiiight

[UncleSpellbinder]

We've heard reports of this, but have never been able to reproduce it internally (either in a test environment, or even just on any of our own daily use machines). It's possible some third-party tools or add-in is messing things up, but it's hard to say for sure without a solid repro case and a debugger.

Just for a reference point. I've installed Vista Home Premium On my Wife's box a week ago. And with NO programs installed, the problem was evident. I just reformatted and re-installed Vista Home Premium OEM on my box. Clean install, NO programs added, Just Vista. The problem is evident now as I type this.

Edited June 20, 2007 by UncleSpellbinder