good deal or con?

[Lt-DavidW]

I hope the other four winners of his auctions do not fall for this either. Perhaps you should contact them?

[rageagainstmachine]

Just noticed the biggest flaw in this whole scam! he said to me he has no paypal becuase its apparently hard to set up in china, or words to that effect.

however, that one item he has sold, i.e the mobile phone.... yup you guessed it, he offered paypal as a paymenet method for that!!!

Im reporting him right now.

**** edit****

thats actually somthing he has bought! damn!

Lt-DavidW, they were all private acutions i believe.

[rageagainstmachine]

he just reponded to that email from yesterday:

"Oh,

was sorry that, has delayed to your reply! Because the present is the weekend, I and my children are camping! Asks you to forgive!

OK! I can deliver you the photograph and the photographic camera number! But, must wait till Monday me to the office! Because, these materials all deposit in the company!

Is weekend happy."

i'll wait to see what he comes back with on monday! whats to stop him taking going to a shop and taking a serial number from a camera in there?

[AdzzzUK]

This is definitely a scam mate, report him NOW if you haven't already.

Do not persue this further.

[Ash]

Well considering he didn't specify Moneygram as a payment method in the description and it is against eBay policy then it absolves you of your obligation to go through with the transaction.

With this many people telling your that it's most certainly a scam, I would hope you take the advice and report him as a scammer.

Asides he posted false information. His profile lists him living in the US, but the email he sent you says for you to send the payment to china where his "office" is. Either its a lie or he has one hell of a commute to work and back.

[rageagainstmachine]

ok, i reported him on the grounds he was requesting paymenet through money gram.

[rageagainstmachine]

Sorry for going on about this again! but the guy has sent me pics! his email below.

Hello,

I ask for instructions the leadership, they only agreed I deliver you the photograph! Because, each camera number and security beautiful, only can inquire one time! Only then confirmed after me your payment, I can give you the camera the number and security beautiful! Sends out the goods after you! we also can give you the goods the path numeral, facilitates your inquiry!

The hope can complete the transaction smoothly with you! Anticipates your news!

Enclosed our product photograph

more

more

[well...]

Those pictures are all very well and good but they are very professional and could easily be from some promotional material or from a web review site, Why not ask him to take a pic with your name on a piece of card infront of the camera?

[rageagainstmachine]

Those pictures are all very well and good but they are very professional and could easily be from some promotional material or from a web review site, Why not ask him to take a pic with your name on a piece of card infront of the camera?

i did think about that. if only i new chinese, then i could read that business card!!

[well...]

Im sure we have at least one chinese member. Anyone?

[rageagainstmachine]

what a joke!! this just gets better!

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h...%3D6Nd%26sa%3DN

[acnpt]

Good you didn't get it!.

Ask him to take a few pictures with it lol.

[Daninku]

what a joke!! this just gets better!

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h...%3D6Nd%26sa%3DN

GOD!! AHAHA

[well...]

Now, descision time...

Report Him or...

http://www.419eater.com/

[rageagainstmachine]

I already reported him the other day anyway! so its in the hands of ebay!

[Lt-DavidW]

what a joke!! this just gets better!

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h...%3D6Nd%26sa%3DN

Don't tell me you seriously thought that at the time he sent you those photos there was still a chance he may have been genuine?

[rageagainstmachine]

was living in hope yes!!! :-)

deep down i knew!

[rageagainstmachine]

Um!! the guy is offering to send the camera first ...then i pay!!! this was after I told him i had reported him to ebay and that i thought this was a scam. he asked me to believe he is honest, etc (as you would expect from a conman) but surely, if hes willing to send the camera first, im laughing...no?

last correspondence....

Him:

Hello,

Asks you to believe I am the honest sales clerk! These photographs are our company's regular products! Therefore, our photograph can with the Internet above be consistent! These all are the regular products! If you thought this is the unsafe transaction, I request the leader agreement! Asks you to pay half goods first the expense! We transmit the project to you! But, accepts the goods after you, please immediate payment goods another half expense! Otherwise, we will sue you in EBAY! And invites me attorney and you converses!

You think like this? Anticipates your news! Regards

ME:

You'll sue me?! i dont think so pal! i have already reported this to ebay on the grounds your requesting disallowed payment requests. Its in ebay's hands now. Also, i don't fully understand your email! I have even had another buyer emailing me telling me he doesnt feel safe sending you money. Too many things dont add up. For a start, your registered as a US member, but your in china!

Regards,

HIM:

You misunderstood my meaning! My meaning is: I first transmit the project to you! Then you pay my goods the money! If will receive my cargo after you, you do not deliver me the money, I will sue you in EBAY!!Thus, is the project which sells to me is a best proof!

[rageagainstmachine]

no one got any opinions on the latest correspondence?

[Bubbabyte]

well if he's gonna send you the camera without any kind of payment.. what do you need an opinion for? just accept the camera...lol

[rageagainstmachine]

Why would anyone do that!! this guy must be daft!

[gigapixels Veteran]

I wouldn't deal with somebody I couldn't correspond clearly with. Sorry, he may be honest and all, but it's much harder to tell when he can't even use proper English. I wouldn't do it. Chances are he's just trying to get your information to further scam you.

[goodcase]

If he's offering to send the camera without any payment. Accept it. If he sends you one send the money. Deal is done.

[rageagainstmachine]

yup, Thats probably what i'll do. just wondering if anyone knows of any "replica" canon e30d cameras?

[Lt-DavidW]

Sounds to me like he's offering to send the camera once you pay HALF of the agreed price. Seriously, you have to know that this is a con now - the unrealistically low price, the transaction method, the fake photos...

If you go along with this any further you may get yourself into possible trouble with eBay themselves. If for example he sends you a replica, then you will have to pay for it, and eBay will refuse to help you as you took the matter into your own hands - and I wouldn't blame them. A conman is not going to send you something for nothing, so please let go of this strand of hope and bury this whole thing before you do something you'll only end up regretting.