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I think Jin lost his memory like Desmond

and works for the car campny but knows Jin and His Baby

They said she had a boy to jin but it was a girls

i dont understand the scene were he gives the Panda to the women who had the baby...was that Sun.

I don't follow what you're saying in the first part, but....

Jin's portion was a flashback. He was congratulating the Ambassador of China on his new grandson, so it wasn't son, it was the Ambassador's daughter.

Note, the year of the dragon was 2001.

Seems to me that Jins flashback was 2001 and Sun's was the future.

To me though, thats a lame trick by the writers and a poor episode.

I thought it was quite clever because even tho I read spoilers I didn't know Jins part was a flashback so I was generally surprised!

Note, the year of the dragon was 2001.

Seems to me that Jins flashback was 2001 and Sun's was the future.

To me though, thats a lame trick by the writers and a poor episode.

The year of the dragon was 2000 (2001 was the snake).

As has been noted several times now, it's clear it was a flash back and flash forward, how was the story execution not clever?

I thought it was quite clever because even tho I read spoilers I didn't know Jins part was a flashback so I was generally surprised!

I think you mean genuinely :p

Nevertheless it's only LESS than 1 month in 2001 for it to qualify as Dragon... those little details aren't important I don't think.

All it means it IS a flashback, if Jin said "I am only married for 2 months"

Unless he is married to another Woman, besides Sun, in 2012

Why everyone is so sure that Jin is dead and it was the flashback not the flashforward? It doesn't make any sense to have the flashback just to fool people. Because Jin's story in this episode wasn't even interesting.

We know Jin was married once, and he said he was only married for two months. Also, the guy who sold him the Panda said it was the year of the dragon, which was 2000, possible very early 2001. We know it was a flashback.

I'm going to say that Jin is NOT one of the Oceanic Six. Just because there's a gravesite doesn't mean he got off the island. If Jin dies on the island and only Sun got off the island, it makes sense for her to have a funeral for Jin once she's home.

What I found interesting were the two facts we learned about Hurley:

1) He's got enough money to fly to Korea just to see Sun's baby

2) He doesn't want to see any of the other four Oceanic Six members...when Sun said no one else was coming, Hurley replied "Good."

Also, Sun seemed to be in a hotel room at the beginning of the episode. Why is she traveling?

I thought Jack mentioned something about free tickets in the end of season 3? He said something about a Golden Pass.

The way I understand it is this.

Sun is part of the Oceanic 6.

People still on the island manage to get off the island after the Oceanic 6 are rescued. However they aren't allowed to come public or slip into there old lives.

Sun doesn't know Jin's alive. Jin doesnt want to go back to Sun or has had his memory erased.

Now THAT'S an intriguing theory! (Y)

Are there any Hints/indication what year is it when Sun Delivered?

I already covered that. But again ...

DOC was around 10/25/04 (as stated in D.O.C.)

That means her flash forward took place roughly nine months later, 7/25/05.

Possibly Jin's tombstone was erected by his family in Korea when the plane crashed, in a memorial thinking they wouldn't recover his body? That could explain the dates.

Jin's family was poor, and his father lived in a small fishing village. Sun put up that tombstone. But again, that might only be to perpetuate the lie that there were no other survivors.

Heres a personal thought on the tombstone: Jin said in the episode that the man he was -- an 'enforcer' for Sun's father -- died when they came to the island. 9/22/04, the date on Jin's 'tombstone' is the date they came to the island, and thus would be the day 'the old Jin' died.

I think he is alive on the island. He did what it took to get Sun off, but doing so required him to stay.

The way I understand it is this.

Sun is part of the Oceanic 6.

People still on the island manage to get off the island after the Oceanic 6 are rescued. However they aren't allowed to come public or slip into there old lives.

Sun doesn't know Jin's alive. Jin doesnt want to go back to Sun or has had his memory erased.

Is there something that they have shown that makes you believe others (non Oceanic 6) got off the island that were from the flight?

Even so, he's still going to be on the show. Who knows how long it will be before Sun actually gets off the island? We could be seeing Jin around for a long time still.

Did you not notice preview for next week & spoilers said Someone from Oceanic 815 will die. It's gotta be him then! :(

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